Appetite For Democracy Blu-ray/DVD - live in Las Vegas Nov 21 2012

[Ja5oN]

Despite all this mystery and possible legal bullshit....or whatever.....I just wish this would come out. 

I would love to have some new material of quality for home.  I wasn;t at the shows they recorded (i went after), but it was a good time that I would love to share with other who weren't there.

[jarmo]

So we're to believe that this company, Rocket Fuel, is just out there all on their own, promoting the video, using Guns N' Roses images, setting release dates that have come and gone -- all without the knowledge and approval of Guns N' Roses management.

Something doesn't make sense here.  That's the part you didn't answer.

Like cineater said -- if this isn't "set in stone" why doesn't the band put an end to it until it is.

Have you ever experienced situations where somebody was sure things would go according to plan and went ahead and did something, only to have it backfire because something didn't go according to the original plan?

I'm pretty sure the production company involved didn't do things without thinking that everything was ok. I'm sure they thought it was ok to put up the cinema listings, but it turns out things weren't as they should have been.




/jarmo

[Ali]

So we're to believe that this company, Rocket Fuel, is just out there all on their own, promoting the video, using Guns N' Roses images, setting release dates that have come and gone -- all without the knowledge and approval of Guns N' Roses management.

Something doesn't make sense here.  That's the part you didn't answer.

Like cineater said -- if this isn't "set in stone" why doesn't the band put an end to it until it is.

I don't understand what you're proposing. GN'R doesn't control Rock Fuel's social media outlets. So, I don't see how they can stop Rock Fuel from saying something, premature as it may be.

Ali

[FunkyMonkey]

Guns N' Roses hired Rocket Fuel media to shoot their concert in 3D.

To say at this point, they have no control over what Rocket Fuel media does, their vendor, is just silly.

Guns N' Roses management could put out a statement/post/tweet as to the status of the project.  And/or put an end to the project if it's not "set in stone" as Jarmo said.

[D-GenerationX]

So we're to believe that this company, Rocket Fuel, is just out there all on their own, promoting the video, using Guns N' Roses images, setting release dates that have come and gone -- all without the knowledge and approval of Guns N' Roses management.

Something doesn't make sense here.  That's the part you didn't answer.

Like cineater said -- if this isn't "set in stone" why doesn't the band put an end to it until it is.

I don't understand what you're proposing. GN'R doesn't control Rock Fuel's social media outlets. So, I don't see how they can stop Rock Fuel from saying something, premature as it may be.

Ali

But are we really supposed to believe they are doing things against the express wishes of the band?  Does that make sense?

[JAEBALL]

So we're to believe that this company, Rocket Fuel, is just out there all on their own, promoting the video, using Guns N' Roses images, setting release dates that have come and gone -- all without the knowledge and approval of Guns N' Roses management.

Something doesn't make sense here.  That's the part you didn't answer.

Like cineater said -- if this isn't "set in stone" why doesn't the band put an end to it until it is.

I don't understand what you're proposing. GN'R doesn't control Rock Fuel's social media outlets. So, I don't see how they can stop Rock Fuel from saying something, premature as it may be.

Ali

But are we really supposed to believe they are doing things against the express wishes of the band?  Does that make sense?

No it doesnt.

They are the client, you would think they would cater to the requests Axl/whoever.

But is any of this surprising?

[D-GenerationX]

No, none of this is surprising.

From the fact this got fucked up, to the poor communication from all involved, right on up through the eventual offhand comment we'll get on this from Axl 3 years from now when he passes the buck for it never coming out.

[JAEBALL]

No, none of this is surprising.

From the fact this got fucked up, to the poor communication from all involved, right on up through the eventual offhand comment we'll get on this from Axl 3 years from now when he passes the buck for it never coming out.

It very well might be completely RockFuels fault for all of the hiccups, but since we are never told , we can only assume they were in their right to proceed at this pace.

[sofine11]

You know, say what you will about Azoff, but he actually was able to negotiate a release.  Stuff like this screams of whoever is currently behind the wheel of GNR's business dealings being completely inept in that regard.  What a mess.

[jarmo]

Guns N' Roses management could put out a statement/post/tweet as to the status of the project.  And/or put an end to the project if it's not "set in stone" as Jarmo said.

I'm sure there'll be an update as soon as there's something to update about! Instead of the usual "we don't have any news at the moment" updates that certain GN'R fans crave.

It very well might be completely RockFuels fault for all of the hiccups, but since we are never told , we can only assume they were in their right to proceed at this pace.

Let me just paint this picture to some of you since it seems like the thought never appears.

What good would it do for GN'R to point fingers in any direction at this point?
How is blaming someone for this gonna make it come out sooner?





/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

What good would it do for GN'R to point fingers in any direction at this point?
How is blaming someone for this gonna make it come out sooner?

Because that's what's being alleged?  Someone has suggested that?

[JAEBALL]

Guns N' Roses management could put out a statement/post/tweet as to the status of the project.  And/or put an end to the project if it's not "set in stone" as Jarmo said.

I'm sure there'll be an update as soon as there's something to update about! Instead of the usual "we don't have any news at the moment" updates that certain GN'R fans crave.

It very well might be completely RockFuels fault for all of the hiccups, but since we are never told , we can only assume they were in their right to proceed at this pace.

Let me just paint this picture to some of you since it seems like the thought never appears.

What good would it do for GN'R to point fingers in any direction at this point?
How is blaming someone for this gonna make it come out sooner?





/jarmo

How about we apologize for the delay, all parties are working hard to iron out the last wrinkles, will be out soon

but because they say nothing its easy for people to point the fingers at them! they are the common denominator in all of the cancellations and delays with multiple projects...not rockfuel...

so yes I agree it may not benefit them to point the fingers at rockfuel, but at least it will avoid them being blamed

[D-GenerationX]

but because they say nothing its easy for people to point the fingers at them!

Our man never sees it this way. 

Open line of communication, keeping people appraised, getting out in front of any sort of misstatement or wrong theories?

Bah, who needs it?

[jarmo]

How about we apologize for the delay, all parties are working hard to iron out the last wrinkles, will be out soon

Sure. But as I previously said, they didn't announce it in the first place....

so yes I agree it may not benefit them to point the fingers at rockfuel, but at least it will avoid them being blamed

You're assuming Rockfuel is to blame for the delay.





/jarmo

[slash&axl]

Let me just paint this picture to some of you since it seems like the thought never appears.

What good would it do for GN'R to point fingers in any direction at this point?
How is blaming someone for this gonna make it come out sooner?



/jarmo

How come you don't get frustrated when you're told something is coming and then it never appears?

When did you stop caring about releases?

edit

Seems the website is down/gone

http://gnr3dmovie.com/

[FunkyMonkey]

I'm sure there'll be an update as soon as there's something to update about! Instead of the usual "we don't have any news at the moment" updates that certain GN'R fans crave.

/jarmo

C'mon, they could give a simple status update on the project to put an end to the mind-numbing speculation as to what's going on.

It's not that hard. 

[slash&axl]

I'm sure there'll be an update as soon as there's something to update about! Instead of the usual "we don't have any news at the moment" updates that certain GN'R fans crave.

/jarmo

C'mon, they could give a simple status update on the project to put an end to the mind-numbing speculation as to what's going on.

It's not that hard. 

Yeah we're all here cause we fucking love this band so much and so badly want something new from them

Would love to have the blu ray and get it signed during the upcoming residency

[JAEBALL]

How about we apologize for the delay, all parties are working hard to iron out the last wrinkles, will be out soon

Sure. But as I previously said, they didn't announce it in the first place....

so yes I agree it may not benefit them to point the fingers at rockfuel, but at least it will avoid them being blamed

You're assuming Rockfuel is to blame for the delay.





/jarmo

well its either them or its GNR's fault ... and if it was being held up by anybody with rights tot he GNR catalogue...its on rocketfuel and gnr to get that out of the way ... they had to know that would have to be dealt with in order to release this...

i just think their silence on the matter makes them look guilty, whether its true or not

i personally have no clue, its just the way it looks

[jarmo]

How come you don't get frustrated when you're told something is coming and then it never appears?

Because I choose who to believe?

After a while, you realize that it doesn't matter what other people say GN'R will do, unless GN'R says so, be careful about taking it as the truth.

When did you stop caring about releases?

Who says I did?
I'd love to see this movie out!




/jarmo

[FunkyMonkey]

Sure. But as I previously said, they didn't announce it in the first place....

After a while, you realize that it doesn't matter what other people say GN'R will do, unless GN'R says so, be careful about taking it as the truth.

/jarmo

So this company Rocket Fuel Media, that they hired to shoot a 3D concert movie, is just out there doing whatever they please with the project and GN'R has no say or knowledge of what they're doing?

That doesn't add up.  It's convenient when things go wrong.  But it doesn't add up.