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Topic: "Next Album" rumor / speculation thread *UPDATE AUG 22/2023* (Read 1762935 times)
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Re: "Next Album" rumor / speculation thread *UPDATE JAN 29/2022*
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Quote from: sworrm on February 03, 2022, 07:35:24 AM
I know Wikipedia isn’t reliable but it says on there that it’s written by Axl on his own , I quite believe it tho cos as you say it’s a very basic chord structure similar to the one Axl wrote in Deadhorse
ASCAP is more reliable:
https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/search/workID/913016643?page=1
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Anyone see Slash's interview with rolling stone? He says another GNR single is coming soon.
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Quote from: tim_m on February 11, 2022, 09:48:58 PM
Anyone see Slash's interview with rolling stone? He says another GNR single is coming soon.
“I’m a rock & roll guy through and through. … I don’t give a shit what the fuck’s going on elsewhere; that’s what I do.”
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February 14, 2022, 04:16:25 PM »
I guess this is the appropriate day to say, mad love GNR.
Where's that next album?
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Quote from: tim_m on February 11, 2022, 09:48:58 PM
Anyone see Slash's interview with rolling stone? He says another GNR single is coming soon.
For those that missed it:
"I know we’ve got some songs and we’re releasing another one at some point soon, and there’ll be another one after that. As far as the record is concerned, that remains to be seen as far as a whole package, but I feel pretty confident that at some point down the road, there will be."
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February 15, 2022, 03:45:35 PM »
Quote from: kyrie on February 15, 2022, 12:41:11 PM
Quote from: tim_m on February 11, 2022, 09:48:58 PM
Anyone see Slash's interview with rolling stone? He says another GNR single is coming soon.
For those that missed it:
"I know we’ve got some songs and we’re releasing another one at some point soon, and there’ll be another one after that. As far as the record is concerned, that remains to be seen as far as a whole package, but I feel pretty confident that at some point down the road, there will be."
I wonder if the same thing will happen as last year? “Absurd” was played live and then released at midnight. “Hard Skool” was released during the tour too. Would be cool to hear new live music.
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Quote from: gnrrock on February 15, 2022, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: kyrie on February 15, 2022, 12:41:11 PM
Quote from: tim_m on February 11, 2022, 09:48:58 PM
Anyone see Slash's interview with rolling stone? He says another GNR single is coming soon.
For those that missed it:
"I know we’ve got some songs and we’re releasing another one at some point soon, and there’ll be another one after that. As far as the record is concerned, that remains to be seen as far as a whole package, but I feel pretty confident that at some point down the road, there will be."
Single releases made sense when they were touring and you didn't have to wait months to get your product to the buyer. I'm wondering if that approach makes sense any more.
I wonder if the same thing will happen as last year? “Absurd” was played live and then released at midnight. “Hard Skool” was released during the tour too. Would be cool to hear new live music.
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so basically the plan is to capitalize on the Chinese Democracy years of recorded
studio material, adding Duff & Slash parts to the equation with the same promise
of an album in the years to come to maintain the interest of the fanbase and
selling tickets & tshirts to the next tours.
if I wanted to sound a bit cynical I would say it looks like a pension fund.
Pension Fund, the next Guns N'Roses album.
hey sounds pretty cool
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Releasing songs like Absurd and Hard Skool might be the plan for the next tour cycle.
But after that? Who knows.
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"Time waits for no one." As Slash says, it was a starting point. The CD era belongs to other musicians, dump it and move on. I'm not saying don't put it out but get it out there now and make a fresh start.
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Er, dump it was kind of harsh.
I liked all those musicians who were part of the second generation of GNR. Feel they created the music, it belongs to them. It should go out as theirs. Slash can fiddle around with it on the stage. Creative license allows him that but I would not disrespect what they did by having others tweak it.
I heard a different band at the end of the last leg. It wasn't just Slash and Duff had returned or visiting for a time. They were there, fully engulfed. It's time for this group of GNR to have a crack at what they can do.
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It's pretty simple.
Sometimes you gotta do what's best. While it might not be what's considered best by you, it might be what's best for the band at the time.
If they hadn't reworked those songs for release in 2021, we might still be waiting for a new release....
The (false) logic that if the band isn't touring, they're in a studio recording/writing new music also applies to the actual music. If they decided not to rework those songs doesn't "automagically" mean they'd be writing new songs....
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Axl invested so many years in these songs it would be crazy not to have them released. Am I little miffed that we probably won’t hear the songs in their original form? Yes, if I’m being honest. Am I pleased that (at least) 2 more songs will be released soon? You bet your ass
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the thing I don't really understand is we know (or we think we know
) there was already
an album ready to come out before Slash & Duff rejoining. if it makes sense that it was delayed
because of the "reunion tour", it doesn't make much sense to not releasing the album with
Slash & Duff new parts on it. OR it's these tracks that they decided to release as singles from
time to time, but if there was indeed a whole album ready I don't understand why they choose this path
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Quote from: DeN on February 16, 2022, 08:17:01 PM
the thing I don't really understand is we know (or we think we know
) there was already
an album ready to come out before Slash & Duff rejoining. if it makes sense that it was delayed
because of the "reunion tour", it doesn't make much sense to not releasing the album with
Slash & Duff new parts on it. OR it's these tracks that they decided to release as singles from
time to time, but if there was indeed a whole album ready I don't understand why they choose this path
Good point I guess. I wonder if releasing music via the single route avoids or bypasses any outstanding or unresolved issues with the label vis~a~vis a new record?
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Quote from: DeN on February 16, 2022, 08:17:01 PM
the thing I don't really understand is we know (or we think we know
) there was already
an album ready to come out before Slash & Duff rejoining. if it makes sense that it was delayed
because of the "reunion tour", it doesn't make much sense to not releasing the album with
Slash & Duff new parts on it. OR it's these tracks that they decided to release as singles from
time to time, but if there was indeed a whole album ready I don't understand why they choose this path
My totally uninformed, completely speculative, and probably totally wrong guess is:
Axl had some material on that "cancelled" album that really meant a lot to him, as well as some vaulted material that didn't make the cut because he thought it needed a different spin on it. When the guys rejoined the fold, and things appeared to be working, he brought this stuff to them and basically said: I really want to get this material out, so can this be our starting point?
They seem to have agreed. And worked hard to put their respective spins on it.
Its great "training wheel" stuff, too (again, IMHO). It lets them work together, collaboratively, on nearly complete material, to see if they could create together again in a less pressurized, less contentious (my material vs their material) way. So far, I like the results we've heard.....YMMV.
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Quote from: The_General on February 17, 2022, 01:48:18 AM
Good point I guess. I wonder if releasing music via the single route avoids or bypasses any outstanding or unresolved issues with the label vis~a~vis a new record?
Depends on what the issues are.
The label still has to accept and approve any releases of new music.
But it cuts off all the debate about marketing $$, packaging, physical distribution, etc. Yes, that goes on the back of the EPs, still...but I think that's a much lighter lift than a full, brand new, GnR album and all it would entail.
By doing it in pieces, even with an eventual "anthology" of all the singles they release (plus maybe some B-sides/lives), they save themselves a lot of headaches, a lot of negotiations, and a lot of bullshit overhead discussions with the label.
It also gets them back out there, in the media, and in peoples ears, every 90+ days. Can't hurt their Q scores by doing that, and making them a more prominent search term on the streaming services....which will help them out when/if they ever do release a new album of brand new, co-written, material.
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Once you release an album, that's the main course. There's no more appetizers.
When you release singles, and you know you're gonna tour over an extended period of time, like with GN'R due to the pandemic, it creates some buzz and excitement.
If they had released an album last year, some would be asking where the new music is once the next tour leg is starting...
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Quote from: jarmo on February 17, 2022, 10:26:31 AM
Once you release an album, that's the main course. There's no more appetizers.
When you release singles, and you know you're gonna tour over an extended period of time, like with GN'R due to the pandemic, it creates some buzz and excitement.
If they had released an album last year, some would be asking where the new music is once the next tour leg is starting...
/jarmo
I'm tempted to say that only works if you have "a big hit single in the charts". You have an album out, people have choices of what they like and hope to hear. That could be the draw if you don't have the hit.
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People listening to what tracks they want from an album doesn't really create the buzz like "_____ has a new single out!".
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