"Next Album" rumor / speculation thread *UPDATE AUG 22/2023*

[sky dog]

It's time for a new album, no more excuses.  Can't keep playing the same 30 songs.

Ya know what’s funny? I wouldn’t even care if they didn’t play the new tracks live. Just having a new album out would just make me that more excited to see them live again! No doubt I’ll still be there in London either way next year  

Put out a new album and add the single to the setlist. I can live with that.

[Walapino]

Im optimistic today, ill go with group G. At least a single!!

[jarmo]

Im optimistic today, ill go with group G. At least a single!!

I was optimistic last year, and I haven't changed my opinion.

I'm not buying the "their track record is ______ so then ________" theory.





/jarmo

[rizzo160]

I hope you are right, history is not on your side

[jarmo]

I hope you are right, history is not on your side

Oh, I've been wrong. Plenty of times. I thought there would be an album in 2006 or 2007. But it came out in 2008. No big deal.....

Life goes on.




/jarmo

[C0ma]

I hope you are right, history is not on your side

Oh, I've been wrong. Plenty of times. I thought there would be an album in 2006 or 2007. But it came out in 2008. No big deal.....

Life goes on.




/jarmo

The "wild card" on the side of new music IMO is Slash and Duff. Axl never had an "equal" in the NuGnR era that could really push him. He now has "original" members (not here to talk about the 4 weeks that Tracii Guns and Rob Gardner were in the band) that are used to writing and releasing new music... they could be the push he needs.

[jarmo]

Maybe. Duff and Slash are definitely more known in the (music) world than some past members. Not sure if that makes a difference in creating music.

I think it's a combination of things. It's not just the band, it's more than that. You need everyone on the same page. Band, label etc.





/jarmo

[sky dog]

I hope you are right, history is not on your side

Oh, I've been wrong. Plenty of times. I thought there would be an album in 2006 or 2007. But it came out in 2008. No big deal.....

Life goes on.




/jarmo

The "wild card" on the side of new music IMO is Slash and Duff. Axl never had an "equal" in the NuGnR era that could really push him. He now has "original" members (not here to talk about the 4 weeks that Tracii Guns and Rob Gardner were in the band) that are used to writing and releasing new music... they could be the push he needs.

Your opinion is rather shaky as Slash and Duff haven’t gotten Axl and the GNR brand to release one note of new music in the 5 years they have been back in the band! At least somebody got OMG out of him back at the start of the new band.

[rizzo160]

Life goes on but how many wasted years will we have to wait for a new album.

[GypsySoul]

Life goes on but how many wasted years will we have to wait for a new album.

“If you are really into waiting, try holding your breath for Jesus, ’cause I hear the payoff may be that much greater.”
— Axl Rose

Amen!!! 

[cineater]

Life goes on but how many wasted years will we have to wait for a new album.

“If you are really into waiting, try holding your breath for Jesus, ’cause I hear the payoff may be that much greater.”
— Axl Rose

Amen!!! 

Er, we have no proof Jesus hears us but with that line, we know you're at least listening Axl.      

  He asked for it.   

[jarmo]

Life goes on but how many wasted years will we have to wait for a new album.

Wasted?

Time isn't wasted as long as the person is happy. I'd rather have a happy band than a band that didn't "waste" time that's unhappy.




/jarmo

[C0ma]

I hope you are right, history is not on your side

Oh, I've been wrong. Plenty of times. I thought there would be an album in 2006 or 2007. But it came out in 2008. No big deal.....

Life goes on.




/jarmo

The "wild card" on the side of new music IMO is Slash and Duff. Axl never had an "equal" in the NuGnR era that could really push him. He now has "original" members (not here to talk about the 4 weeks that Tracii Guns and Rob Gardner were in the band) that are used to writing and releasing new music... they could be the push he needs.

Your opinion is rather shaky as Slash and Duff haven’t gotten Axl and the GNR brand to release one note of new music in the 5 years they have been back in the band! At least somebody got OMG out of him back at the start of the new band.

Meaning they still have time... think about how long it took for CD... And the release of OMG really isn't much different than the Shadow release in the box set. At least Shadow got cleaned up from demo form unlike OMG.

With that said Jarmo made a good point, or at least an accurate point. This is all about Axl/Brasil and the label. There is no other band that seems to have as much trouble getting new music through, which makes me question how real that is. With the success these tours have had the label should be looking to capitalize so I can't see them being a road block at all. With that said I'm sure there appetite for constant retooling is probably similar to the CD Era, which pushes this firmly back on Axl and his constant tinkering, and that is what I'm hoping Slash and Duff would be able to nudge him along with now that the hatchet was buried.

With touring starting back up and the world (or most of it) open, the "We can't do this during COVID" excuse goes away.

I'm hopeful

 

[Gavgnr]

If the rumours are to be believed the album’s been done for a while now, certainly in excess of 12 months. So, I guess it comes down to negotiations between Axl/TB and the label. Not too dissimilar to the 18 month period prior to Chinese coming out I guess. Difference is back then, there was the powerhouse Azoff dealing. Not to cast aspersions on TB, but I’m sure you get my point

[jarmo]

Yes. Universal Music did put out he AFD re-issue.

But that didn't really require a lot of band involvement.


Now, new studio music is different. I'm guessing Axl and the band would like to know how Universal Music would handle the promotion.


I think the difference between GN'R, and any other band that people like to compare them to, is that some of them are not signed to major record companies. While others might be signed on deals where records and merch are all in the same contract so it makes "sense" for the business people involved for the artist to put out music to tour and sell merchandise....





/jarmo

[Gavgnr]

Sorry, do you mean that Guns’ records and merch are not part of the same contract? Meaning that it doesn’t make business sense for the label to tie-in a record release with a tour?

[jarmo]

Sorry, do you mean that Guns’ records and merch are not part of the same contract? Meaning that it doesn’t make business sense for the label to tie-in a record release with a tour?

I don't know. What I meant is that some artists today have deals with are made with companies that handle everything.


All I know is that these so called 360 deals weren't necessarily around when GN'R signed to Geffen.

Back then, the record companies released music to sell and artists toured to sell more records.


Today, someone can be signed to a deal where one company makes money on everything from records to t-shirts. Others are signed to more "traditional" deals where the record company handles the music, another company handles the merch and so on.

Or you're independent. And license your music to a label.... Which I guess is what a band like Metallica does.



Of course it makes sense to release new music to coincide with a tour. Both promote each other.




/jarmo

[rizzo160]

Hopefully we get new music in that this is a brand new tour.

[jarmo]

Five weeks until the start of the tour.

Let's see what happens.




/jarmo

[Gavgnr]

I’m just so excited at even the prospect of a new Guns album. I’m 44 years old and still get excited like I did about the release of UYI when I was 13/14. I never had the anticipation for the release of Appetite as it was hearing that record that got me into GnR.