Dj Ashba on FOX 5 News (Las Vegas) tonight at 6pm (Apr 24)

[CIAT]

That was bad.

For those that say it was bad I say...

Can you play better? If not then shut up

Bet if robin did it I'd love it.

Thought it was a great performance by Ashba, shows the Fox audience why he is in gnr

Honestly? Yeah I can

Really?

Well, do it, upload it to youtube and let's see 

Yeah really. Sorry, but I don't plan on uploading video's to youtube of me playing just to prove something to some anonymous guy on the internet that I don't know (no offense). My recording software is not installed on this computer I'm using here, and I'm not going to set it up now for this. So you'll just have to take my word for it. Regardless, the point still stands. Even if I didn't play guitar at all, anyone should be able to give their opinion on something regardless of if they can play, or how well they can play. However, when I do get my gear setup eventually, I'll gladly post some stuff on youtube, and you can check it out then.

I am just asking you to add some credibility to your post. I am over 40, and I could record a crude video and upload it in 5 minutes.

Show you are better than DJ. Copy something he has done.

Why? This thread isn't about me. Why do I need to prove I'm better than DJ Ashba? If people don't want to beleive me, I don't care. It doesn't matter anyways because, like I already stated - anyone can have an opinion on anything, regardless if they can do it or not. It just so happens that I can. But, it's irrelevant, and I don't need to prove myself to make my point.

It's like going to the circus and seeing a sloppy performance where the acrobats keep falling and the clowns aren't amusing...etc. The response anyone would have would be "that was bad". Or seeing a terrible movie. The response someone would make to their friends as they walked out of the theatre would be "that was bad". Now, I'm sure 99% of those people aren't acrobats, clowns, or directors. But, they can still have an opinion on them, can they not?

Same thing applies here. So whether or not I can play as good as DJ does not matter. Like I said, I should have some stuff on my youtube channel at some point in the future. If you really want to hear my playing, you can see it then. I'm not going to record something now, just to prove something to some people I've never met on the internet - especially when it doesn't have anything to do with my point in the first place. If people want to think DJ is a better player then me, they can. I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone.

All I did was write three words and this place goes into a hissy fit. It's my opinion! If you disagree, good for you! Calm down folks, it's just a band.

[Mysteron]

That was bad.

For those that say it was bad I say...

Can you play better? If not then shut up

Bet if robin did it I'd love it.

Thought it was a great performance by Ashba, shows the Fox audience why he is in gnr

Honestly? Yeah I can

Really?

Well, do it, upload it to youtube and let's see 

Yeah really. Sorry, but I don't plan on uploading video's to youtube of me playing just to prove something to some anonymous guy on the internet that I don't know (no offense). My recording software is not installed on this computer I'm using here, and I'm not going to set it up now for this. So you'll just have to take my word for it. Regardless, the point still stands. Even if I didn't play guitar at all, anyone should be able to give their opinion on something regardless of if they can play, or how well they can play. However, when I do get my gear setup eventually, I'll gladly post some stuff on youtube, and you can check it out then.

I am just asking you to add some credibility to your post. I am over 40, and I could record a crude video and upload it in 5 minutes.

Show you are better than DJ. Copy something he has done.

Why? This thread isn't about me. Why do I need to prove I'm better than DJ Ashba? If people don't want to beleive me, I don't care. It doesn't matter anyways because, like I already stated - anyone can have an opinion on anything, regardless if they can do it or not. It just so happens that I can. But, it's irrelevant, and I don't need to prove myself to make my point.

It's like going to the circus and seeing a sloppy performance where the acrobats keep falling and the clowns aren't amusing...etc. The response anyone would have would be "that was bad". Or seeing a terrible movie. The response someone would make to their friends as they walked out of the theatre would be "that was bad". Now, I'm sure 99% of those people aren't acrobats, clowns, or directors. But, they can still have an opinion on them, can they not?

Same thing applies here. So whether or not I can play as good as DJ does not matter. Like I said, I should have some stuff on my youtube channel at some point in the future. If you really want to hear my playing, you can see it then. I'm not going to record something now, just to prove something to some people I've never met on the internet - especially when it doesn't have anything to do with my point in the first place. If people want to think DJ is a better player then me, they can. I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone.

All I did was write three words and this place goes into a hissy fit. It's my opinion! If you disagree, good for you! Calm down folks, it's just a band.

Good guitarists respect other good guitarists. You do not speak like a guitarist.

I can guarantee that Robin would not ever qualify your opinion on DJ, and would be disappointed that one of his fans has such a closed mind about a fellow guitarist.

[CIAT]

That was bad.

For those that say it was bad I say...

Can you play better? If not then shut up

Bet if robin did it I'd love it.

Thought it was a great performance by Ashba, shows the Fox audience why he is in gnr

Honestly? Yeah I can

Really?

Well, do it, upload it to youtube and let's see 

Yeah really. Sorry, but I don't plan on uploading video's to youtube of me playing just to prove something to some anonymous guy on the internet that I don't know (no offense). My recording software is not installed on this computer I'm using here, and I'm not going to set it up now for this. So you'll just have to take my word for it. Regardless, the point still stands. Even if I didn't play guitar at all, anyone should be able to give their opinion on something regardless of if they can play, or how well they can play. However, when I do get my gear setup eventually, I'll gladly post some stuff on youtube, and you can check it out then.

I am just asking you to add some credibility to your post. I am over 40, and I could record a crude video and upload it in 5 minutes.

Show you are better than DJ. Copy something he has done.

Why? This thread isn't about me. Why do I need to prove I'm better than DJ Ashba? If people don't want to beleive me, I don't care. It doesn't matter anyways because, like I already stated - anyone can have an opinion on anything, regardless if they can do it or not. It just so happens that I can. But, it's irrelevant, and I don't need to prove myself to make my point.

It's like going to the circus and seeing a sloppy performance where the acrobats keep falling and the clowns aren't amusing...etc. The response anyone would have would be "that was bad". Or seeing a terrible movie. The response someone would make to their friends as they walked out of the theatre would be "that was bad". Now, I'm sure 99% of those people aren't acrobats, clowns, or directors. But, they can still have an opinion on them, can they not?

Same thing applies here. So whether or not I can play as good as DJ does not matter. Like I said, I should have some stuff on my youtube channel at some point in the future. If you really want to hear my playing, you can see it then. I'm not going to record something now, just to prove something to some people I've never met on the internet - especially when it doesn't have anything to do with my point in the first place. If people want to think DJ is a better player then me, they can. I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone.

All I did was write three words and this place goes into a hissy fit. It's my opinion! If you disagree, good for you! Calm down folks, it's just a band.

Good guitarists respect other good guitarists. You do not speak like a guitarist.

I can guarantee that Robin would not ever qualify your opinion on DJ, and would be disappointed that one of his fans has such a closed mind about a fellow guitarist.

I am a guitarist. And you can not guarentee anything. Your assumptions have nothing to do with the topic. This thread isn't about me. It isn't about Robin. Not sure why you keep bringing that up.

I thought Dj's performance was bad. That is my opinion. If you want to discuss that, I'm all for it. If you want to make assumptions about my playing - that is ridiculous and off topic. lol, are you trying to bait me into uploading a vid? Like I've said about 10 times now, I do not care if people wish to believe that DJ Ashba is a better player than me, or the lastest theory, that I do not play guitar at all. Go ahead and think that. I could really care less about your assumptions of my playing which are based on absolutely nothing, or your assumptions on what you think Robin Finck would think of me. lol. Both are irrelevant to the topic and silly in the first place.

Edit: I also wonder what brings you to believe I am close minded when it come's to DJ Ashba? I always try to look at his playing from a fair viewpoint. I never have a bias on him. If he played something amazing, I'd be the first to admit it. He just...hasn't in my opinion.

[Mysteron]

That was bad.

For those that say it was bad I say...

Can you play better? If not then shut up

Bet if robin did it I'd love it.

Thought it was a great performance by Ashba, shows the Fox audience why he is in gnr

Honestly? Yeah I can

Really?

Well, do it, upload it to youtube and let's see 

Yeah really. Sorry, but I don't plan on uploading video's to youtube of me playing just to prove something to some anonymous guy on the internet that I don't know (no offense). My recording software is not installed on this computer I'm using here, and I'm not going to set it up now for this. So you'll just have to take my word for it. Regardless, the point still stands. Even if I didn't play guitar at all, anyone should be able to give their opinion on something regardless of if they can play, or how well they can play. However, when I do get my gear setup eventually, I'll gladly post some stuff on youtube, and you can check it out then.

I am just asking you to add some credibility to your post. I am over 40, and I could record a crude video and upload it in 5 minutes.

Show you are better than DJ. Copy something he has done.

Why? This thread isn't about me. Why do I need to prove I'm better than DJ Ashba? If people don't want to beleive me, I don't care. It doesn't matter anyways because, like I already stated - anyone can have an opinion on anything, regardless if they can do it or not. It just so happens that I can. But, it's irrelevant, and I don't need to prove myself to make my point.

It's like going to the circus and seeing a sloppy performance where the acrobats keep falling and the clowns aren't amusing...etc. The response anyone would have would be "that was bad". Or seeing a terrible movie. The response someone would make to their friends as they walked out of the theatre would be "that was bad". Now, I'm sure 99% of those people aren't acrobats, clowns, or directors. But, they can still have an opinion on them, can they not?

Same thing applies here. So whether or not I can play as good as DJ does not matter. Like I said, I should have some stuff on my youtube channel at some point in the future. If you really want to hear my playing, you can see it then. I'm not going to record something now, just to prove something to some people I've never met on the internet - especially when it doesn't have anything to do with my point in the first place. If people want to think DJ is a better player then me, they can. I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone.

All I did was write three words and this place goes into a hissy fit. It's my opinion! If you disagree, good for you! Calm down folks, it's just a band.

Good guitarists respect other good guitarists. You do not speak like a guitarist.

I can guarantee that Robin would not ever qualify your opinion on DJ, and would be disappointed that one of his fans has such a closed mind about a fellow guitarist.

I am a guitarist. And you can not guarentee anything. Your assumptions have nothing to do with the topic. This thread isn't about me. It isn't about Robin. Not sure why you keep bringing that up.

I thought Dj's performance was bad. That is my opinion. If you want to discuss that, I'm all for it. If you want to make assumptions about my playing - that is ridiculous and off topic. lol, are you trying to bait me into uploading a vid? Like I've said about 10 times now, I do not care if people wish to believe that DJ Ashba is a better player than me, or the lastest theory, that I do not play guitar at all. Go ahead and think that. I could really care less about your assumptions of my playing which are based on absolutely nothing, or your assumptions on what you think Robin Finck would think of me. lol. Both are irrelevant to the topic and silly in the first place.

Sir,

I have worked with many bands from Patti Smith all the way through to Tenacious D and the Foo Fighters. I have also worked with Bon Jovi, Van Halen, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Slipknot, The Strokes as well as many other bands

So, I am asking you to quialify your statement by recording a guitar piece that matches DJ

So, just do it

[CIAT]

Sir,

I have worked with many bands from Patti Smith all the way through to Tenacious D and the Foo Fighters. I have also worked with Bon Jovi, Van Halen, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Slipknot, The Strokes as well as many other bands

Awesome. Congrats. Though I'm not sure what that has to do with DJ Ashba on Fox News.

So, I am asking you to quialify your statement by recording a guitar piece that matches DJ

Quialify what satement? The statement that I think DJ's performance was bad? I don't need to record something that matches DJ, to prove that.

It's not like I came into the thread like a pompous asshole saying "lol Dj sucks, I'm so much better". Someone asked me if I could play better so...I answered. I don't think I need to back that up, so I can prove something to some guy I've never met on the internet. If you don't want to believe me, fair enough. You don't have to. But, it's irrelevant to my original point in the first place. And like I've already said, I'll put stuff online later and you can gladly pick it apart and critique it then if you wish. But, I'm not going to upload a video to prove something to you.

So, just do it

We're just going in circles here.

[Mysteron]

Sir,

I have worked with many bands from Patti Smith all the way through to Tenacious D and the Foo Fighters. I have also worked with Bon Jovi, Van Halen, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Slipknot, The Strokes as well as many other bands

Awesome. Congrats. Though I'm not sure what that has to do with DJ Ashba on Fox News.

So, I am asking you to quialify your statement by recording a guitar piece that matches DJ

Quialify what satement? The statement that I think DJ's performance was bad? I don't need to record something that matches DJ, to prove that.

It's not like I came into the thread like a pompous asshole saying "lol Dj sucks, I'm so much better". Someone asked me if I could play better so...I answered. I don't think I need to back that up, so I can prove something to some guy I've never met on the internet. If you don't want to believe me, fair enough. You don't have to. But, it's irrelevant to my original point in the first place. And like I've already said, I'll put stuff online later and you can gladly pick it apart and critique it then if you wish. But, I'm not going to upload a video to prove something to you.

So, just do it

We're just going in circles here.

You do come across as a pompous a-hole,. I have enormous respect for musicians and the time they have dedicated to learning their instruments,. I was spoilt as a child, I could have learned any instrument, but instead I found entertainment elsewhere. I did not have the patience to stick to anything long term.

If you have learned the guitar to a degree better than DJ, I would expect you to have respect for DJ and the time he has spent perfecting his craft, even though you prefer Robin

[DnR]

Great interview and guitar solo from DJ, Ballad of death is a brilliant bit of music. Looking forward to what he brings on the next Guns album! 

[CIAT]

You do come across as a pompous a-hole,.

Really? I'm not the one bragging about irrelevant ties with musicians, or badgering someone over and over about something they're clearly not going to do. What have I said that's pompous? I don't like Dj's performance. Get over it.

I have enormous respect for musicians and the time they have dedicated to learning their instruments,. I was spoilt as a child, I could have learned any instrument, but instead I found entertainment elsewhere. I did not have the patience to stick to anything long term.

Ok...

If you have learned the guitar to a degree better than DJ, I would expect you to have respect for DJ and the time he has spent perfecting his craft, even though yo prefer Robin

Who said I didn't have respect for DJ? And what does my preference for Robin have to do with DJ? I don't dislike DJ because I like Robin. They are two seperate guitar players and my opinion on one does not have any effect on my opinion for the other.

I don't see how saying you think a performance is bad, is disrespectful to a guitarist.

Maybe you and I just have different views on "respect". To which I say, agree to disagree.

[jarmo]

You're right. I excepted way too much out of this place. See, in the real world, outside of the HTGTH bubble, people would respond by respectfully agreeing/disagreeing. Not going on a rant because they disagree with someone's opinion and can't handle that people don't think the same thing as them. There are many things to discuss.
It's not about proving people wrong or right. It's about legit discussion which you, for some reason don't want to allow.

Obviously you didn't. If you had any idea, you would've posted something well thought out, something constructive, something worth discussing.

Instead, your post was:

That was bad.

A monkey could write a more intelligent post than that! 


See? That's the difference between the HTGTH bubble and the rest of the world.

Here you might actually have to stand up for your words. Not just post "He sucks!" and then have a bunch of people posting "+1" and patting your virtual back.

Now you know.



/jarmo

[CIAT]

You're right. I excepted way too much out of this place. See, in the real world, outside of the HTGTH bubble, people would respond by respectfully agreeing/disagreeing. Not going on a rant because they disagree with someone's opinion and can't handle that people don't think the same thing as them. There are many things to discuss.
It's not about proving people wrong or right. It's about legit discussion which you, for some reason don't want to allow.

Obviously you didn't. If you had any idea, you would've posted something well thought out, something constructive, something worth discussing.

Instead, your post was:

That was bad.

A monkey could write a more intelligent post than that! 


See? That's the difference between the HTGTH bubble and the rest of the world.

Here you might actually have to stand up for your words. Not just post "He sucks!" and then have a bunch of people posting "+1" and patting your virtual back.

Now you know.



/jarmo

I'm not sure how the quote "that was bad" conveys intelligence or lack of. It's just an opinion. The discussion comes after the opinion.

If you want me to be more specific - I thought his tone was horrible and his playing was sloppy. I am also not a fan of BOD in general but I think this was a particularily sub-par performance. That is my opinion. If you don't agree, fine. But why do people get upset over the fact that I don't like the performance?

How is saying that was bad any different than saying "dj is great" which someone said. Why didn't you go after them? Both are three word, and apparently equally unintelligent posts. They didn't back their opinion up.

We're going nowhere with this. I didn't like it. That's all there is to it. It's just my opinion. I just think I should be able to say it without having to justify myself. It seems like it's a crime to NOT LIKE something here. Sorry, I'm a human.

[jarmo]

At least now you're explaining why you don't like it instead of coming across like a desperate troll.

Progress!





/jarmo

[CIAT]

I don't see how saying I thought something was bad can be interpreted as desperate trolling. I never asked anyone to explain why they thought it was good. I didn't think it would be neccessary to do so myself.

[damnthehaters]

I don't see how me writing three words is wasting anyone's time. "That was bad". I'm sure you wasted more time typing your response. If people don't respect my opinion or care about what I have to say, they don't have to read my posts.

Seriously?

Why do you need to comment on something you don't like?

Do you go to McDonalds and tell the guy taking your order which menu items you don't like?



There's no discussion to be had. You don't like it. So fucking what? What kind of discussion are you expecting? For somebody to prove you wrong?

Unless you just have to put down a guy because you dislike him.....


Just a little hint to you Robin fans: Stay away from any threads with the two letters D and j next to each other in the subject. It can't be that difficult.





/jarmo

Quit bitching about people voicing their opinions Jarmo.  Are we ONLY supposed to comment when we like something?  Everyday, all over the world, you see comments such as   "I like" or "I don't like", all over the world on different topics.  You act like it's somethign youv'e never seen before.

[Verasa]

I don't see how saying I thought something was bad can be interpreted as desperate trolling. I never asked anyone to explain why they thought it was good. I didn't think it would be neccessary to do so myself.

Well if you're only going to say " that was bad" without at least explaining your reasons why, is being a troll, imho.

Saying it was bad is fine, but state the reasons why and somebody will discuss their reasons they agree/disagree if they so choose.

I dont need to read only positive things about the band, but if you're going to critique negative, bring more than " that was bad"

[xxgunsxx]

CIAT

no offense, but if I had a dollar for ever wrong chord robin played, solo he butchered or more, I could retire.

[CIAT]

CIAT

no offense, but if I had a dollar for ever wrong chord robin played, solo he butchered or more, I could retire.

I'm not exactly sure why Robin is being discussed so much in a thread that is clearly about DJ. If you want to discuss Robin, I'll gladly do it with you in the Robin thread.  http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=57972.0

The fact that people need to defend DJ by attacking Robin, just validates everything I'm saying.

[Booker Floyd]

We have arrived at a strange point in the Guns N' Roses timeline when Robin Finck fans are ostracized for criticizing the current lead guitarist's playing...

Segment seemed fine to me.  The tone sounded a bit off maybe, but no big deal.  "Ballad of Death" is a great solo piece.

[lynn1961]

I think he's the hottest and coolest lead guitarist in GnR since well never mind.  And I like how he's come out in support of anti-bullying. 

[ITARocker]

I don't see how saying I thought something was bad can be interpreted as desperate trolling. I never asked anyone to explain why they thought it was good. I didn't think it would be neccessary to do so myself.

You're right.

I don't understand why this guy has to explain why this is a bad performance.

I mean...It's just a bad one, the guitar is out of tune (so every bend he does sounds awful) and to me has a bad tone too. You really have to explain what is so obvious? Maybe people should explain why they like bad performances. 

I've seen better performances from Ashba  .

It's like when you see a beautiful girl and you tell her and then she says: "why I'm beatiful?" instead of saying "thank you, you too" or "go away you suck" C'mon...

Tellin' people they have to explain every single word they say is real troll to me

[coolman78SLASH]

Im a guitarist, and have been so for almost 20 years, and I agree with some people here. That was not very good, sounded off pitch, or out of tune, and kind of sloppy, in a not cool way.

This site have become like the title of GnRs latest release: or more like a Syrian demoCRAZY! No room for different opinions..