2012 Baseball Season/Off-Season Discussion

[tim_m]

In the end it doesn't matter cause the league isn't gonna change it. If they didn't change the blown perfect game call they sure aren't this one.

I'm not look for or expecting the league to do anything - just showing an example of one ump taking responsibility for a mistake and another avoiding all accountability in game(s) that carried historic significance.

Agreed, he should at least own up to the mistake.

[tim_m]

Impressive start today for Hughes. He was flat out dominant.

[GeorgeSteele]

Ha, I'll take it however it comes, Falcon, so go suck on a foul line!  Wow, I'm in fucking shock right now.

I'm happy for you George, you just witnessed the 26th one hitter it's Mets history!

Falcon, you're starting to hurt my feelings --- the Mets have 35 one-hitters!

Anyway, it's been one long party this weekend; still loving the afterglow of this, but recovering from what is either a hangover or still being drunk. 

[tim_m]

Andy Pettitte having another very good start. Damn shame he took a year off its obvious he still has something left in the tank.

[Falcon]

Ha, I'll take it however it comes, Falcon, so go suck on a foul line!  Wow, I'm in fucking shock right now.

I'm happy for you George, you just witnessed the 26th one hitter it's Mets history!

Falcon, you're starting to hurt my feelings --- the Mets have 35 one-hitters!

Anyway, it's been one long party this weekend; still loving the afterglow of this, but recovering from what is either a hangover or still being drunk. 

Sorry George, typo on my part.

We should probably put an  *asterisk* by my post! 

[GeorgeSteele]

Ha, I'll take it however it comes, Falcon, so go suck on a foul line!  Wow, I'm in fucking shock right now.

I'm happy for you George, you just witnessed the 26th one hitter it's Mets history!

Falcon, you're starting to hurt my feelings --- the Mets have 35 one-hitters!

Anyway, it's been one long party this weekend; still loving the afterglow of this, but recovering from what is either a hangover or still being drunk. 

Sorry George, typo on my part.

We should probably put an  *asterisk* by my post! 

Maybe... try borrowing one from your hitting coach.    

[Falcon]

Ha, I'll take it however it comes, Falcon, so go suck on a foul line!  Wow, I'm in fucking shock right now.

I'm happy for you George, you just witnessed the 26th one hitter it's Mets history!

Falcon, you're starting to hurt my feelings --- the Mets have 35 one-hitters!

Anyway, it's been one long party this weekend; still loving the afterglow of this, but recovering from what is either a hangover or still being drunk. 

Sorry George, typo on my part.

We should probably put an  *asterisk* by my post! 

Maybe... try borrowing one from your hitting coach.    

I see what ya did there, went all "Daily News" on me didn't ya?

[GeorgeSteele]

I see what ya did there, went all "Daily News" on me didn't ya?

Haha, apparently so, along with just about every other sports news outlet outside of St. Louis. 

[Falcon]

I see what ya did there, went all "Daily News" on me didn't ya?

Haha, apparently so, along with just about every other sports news outlet outside of St. Louis. 

The St Louis paper thing was just a move to elicit reaction, and it did.

The Daily News taking the McGwire jab was borerline hysterical, they along with 100% of the "outside of St Louis" media fawned over Mac, Sammy, Bonds et al - it was hardly St Louis Post Dispatch specific.

The fact of it being 14 year old counterpunch was even more funny, what's next "Your mama" jokes in the Daily News' comic section?

Even more goofy was Daily News' (and long time Met honk) Mike Lupica's column(s) afterwards, the same guy who demanded MLB over rule Jim Joyce's horrific call in the Armando Gallaraga perfect game bid gives a free pass to Adrian Johnson in Santana no hitter.

I'm happy for Santana and true LetsGo's fans as your good self but find the defensive reations by the Daily News and it's staff silly.

[GeorgeSteele]

I see what ya did there, went all "Daily News" on me didn't ya?

Haha, apparently so, along with just about every other sports news outlet outside of St. Louis. 

The St Louis paper thing was just a move to elicit reaction, and it did.

The Daily News taking the McGwire jab was borerline hysterical, they along with 100% of the "outside of St Louis" media fawned over Mac, Sammy, Bonds et al - it was hardly St Louis Post Dispatch specific.

The fact of it being 14 year old counterpunch was even more funny, what's next "Your mama" jokes in the Daily News' comic section?

Even more goofy was Daily News' (and long time Met honk) Mike Lupica's column(s) afterwards, the same guy who demanded MLB over rule Jim Joyce's horrific call in the Armando Gallaraga perfect game bid gives a free pass to Adrian Johnson in Santana no hitter.

I'm happy for Santana and true LetsGo's fans as your good self but find the defensive reations by the Daily News and it's staff silly.

I actually didn't read that Daily News article so not sure but it's a pretty obvious comeback to what I think most saw as playful ribbing about the no-hitter, which I totally appreciate and expect, otherwise why be a sports fan.  To the extent anyone was serious about it, that'd be kind of dumb, just as any over-the-top defensiveness would be.

Anyway, by the time I sobered up, it all seemed to have become a dead issue.

[Falcon]

Anyway, by the time I sobered up, it all seemed to have become a dead issue.

And that's all that matters really, it was a great moment for Santana/Mets/fans alike - everything else is just a footnote or an answer to a trivia question now.

I prob should've given you one of these  a few days ago!

[GeorgeSteele]

Anyway, by the time I sobered up, it all seemed to have become a dead issue.

And that's all that matters really, it was a great moment for Santana/Mets/fans alike - everything else is just a footnote or an answer to a trivia question now.

I prob should've given you one of these  a few days ago!

Thanks!  Odds are against me living another 50 years for the next one, but 'ya gotta believe'!   

[GeorgeSteele]

Andy Pettitte having another very good start. Damn shame he took a year off its obvious he still has something left in the tank.

He's been incredible, love watching him pitch, a master of the fine art.  Just pounds the areas of the strike zone where the hitters can't get the barrel of the bat on the ball.  Young pitchers could learn a lot from him --- it's not about 'stuff', the key to success in pitching is location.   

[tim_m]

Andy Pettitte having another very good start. Damn shame he took a year off its obvious he still has something left in the tank.

He's been incredible, love watching him pitch, a master of the fine art.  Just pounds the areas of the strike zone where the hitters can't get the barrel of the bat on the ball.  Young pitchers could learn a lot from him --- it's not about 'stuff', the key to success in pitching is location.   

Yep, he's doing it with an 88mph fastball. Its not about blowing the guy away. Its moving the ball around, changing eye level, changing speeds. That's how how you keep a hitter off balance and he's a master at it. He's actually gotten better with age cause he's pitching more now instead of relying on the cutter like when he was younger. Hughes and Nova need to pick his brain and watch Andy. He could teach those two so much.

[pilferk]

Nova was also VERY good last night (outside the 9th...you could see the fatigue).

If they can get guys to pitch like they have THIS time through the rotation (well, except CC)...they're going to do pretty well, no matter what they hit with RISP. 

On the Mets no-no:  Until MLB decides to allow replay, there are no astericks for calls on the field.  Bad or good...that's what they are.

When people start talking astericks for that stuff, I have to chuckle.  Are you honestly telling me that you KNOW there were NO bad calls made back in the 40's, 50's, and 60's...when there was no 24 hour news cycle, no broadcast/tape of every game, and no ability to use replay?

I don't buy it.  I suspect similar mistakes were made, in similar situations, on occasion.  We just don't/didn't hear about them for obvious reasons.

Now, technology has caught up.  It's given us obvious EVIDENCE of those human failings.  And I'm 100% on board with increased use of replay in some fashion....but until/unless that happens, you take the good and the bad calls from the umps, and accept the outcomes as they happen.

[tim_m]

I was very impressed by the last start of Hughes, Pettitte and Nova. If those guys continue pitching this way we are going to be tough to beat and you know our struggles with RISP won't continue.

[pilferk]

I'm am officially going out on a limb and predicting, here in public, that  a Yanks pitcher hits a home run within the next 6 games (3@ Atlanta, 3@ Washington).  I am not altered or drunk, and am of generally sound mind (well....as sound as I normally am).

I await your ridicule.

[tim_m]

I'm am officially going out on a limb and predicting, here in public, that  a Yanks pitcher hits a home run within the next 6 games (3@ Atlanta, 3@ Washington).  I am not altered or drunk, and am of generally sound mind (well....as sound as I normally am).

I await your ridicule.

LOL that prediction is a bit far fetched, but stranger things have happened.

[faldor]

I'm am officially going out on a limb and predicting, here in public, that  a Yanks pitcher hits a home run within the next 6 games (3@ Atlanta, 3@ Washington).  I am not altered or drunk, and am of generally sound mind (well....as sound as I normally am).

I await your ridicule.

That is kind of a strange prediction.  Any reasoning behind it, or just taking a shot in the dark?  Not sure if Phil Hughes has been hitting bombs in BP or something.  You'll look like a genius if it does happen. 

[pilferk]

That is kind of a strange prediction.  Any reasoning behind it, or just taking a shot in the dark?  Not sure if Phil Hughes has been hitting bombs in BP or something.  You'll look like a genius if it does happen. 

A little of both.....

CC's been hitting bombs in BP.

Mostly a shot in the dark.