Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame! Now it's official.

[JDA]

Why aren't Tommy and Richard included? They've been in the band forever and played on a album.

[Layflats]

I was looking a Black Sabbath's Rn'R Hall or Fame info. I'd say it's a pretty good example of how Gn'R is going in.  They are going to induct who they felt like created this band.  I'd say the original five plus Dizzy and Matt is a pretty accurate take on that. Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide through UYI 1 and 2.  Look at Sabbath's member list, it's pretty healthy and some of those members had long runs being billed as Black Sabbath, but they're not inducted.

On the flip side, I love it when I hear, "well, that's not really Guns N' Roses" when it comes to the current lineup.  Well, there are miles of legal paperwork that clearly states that the guys playing now are in Guns N' Roses.  From a rock fans standpoint, if you can't recognize that there is a real chemistry happening between the line-up on tour right now, you need to take another long hard look, or you don't like hard rock.

As a guy that loves Rock-N-Roll I'm interested to see how this goes down, but I do think the Hall at least got it right with who they plan to induct.

And you can't rip on LL Cool J, that's just stupid.

[LongGoneDay]

It has to be original lineup to receive this honour. That's the only reason why they've been inducted into the Rock n roll Hall of Fame.

source?

If you think they are being inducted because of Chinese Democracy, you are beyond delusional my friend.
Their induction into the HOF has been a hot topic since long before Democracy was even released.

You LOVE the band post '94. That's great.
GN'R's legacy had been cemented before '94.
They would be on the ballot whether Axl continued all these years or not.

Pretty sure the HOF couldn't give two shits about the lawsuits between Slash and Axl.

[estebanf]

It has to be original lineup to receive this honour. That's the only reason why they've been inducted into the Rock n roll Hall of Fame.

source?

If you think they are being inducted because of Chinese Democracy, you are beyond delusional my friend.
Their induction into the HOF has been a hot topic since long before Democracy was even released.

You LOVE the band post '94. That's great.
GN'R's legacy had been cemented before '94.
They would be on the ballot whether Axl continued all these years or not.

Pretty sure the HOF couldn't give two shits about the lawsuits between Slash and Axl.

a source or GTFO.

PS: Pretty sure Axl Rose couldn't give two shits about HOF 

[estebanf]

Why aren't Tommy and Richard included? They've been in the band forever and played on a album.

Chris Pitman is in the band even from a longer time than Richard... and his creative input and efforts for the bands musical catalogue is IMMENSELY BIGGER than Sorum's, Gilby, Adler, etc...

[lynn1961]

It has to be original lineup to receive this honour. That's the only reason why they've been inducted into the Rock n roll Hall of Fame.

source?

Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists? contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.  I think, probably, the HOF is basing the induction on the AFD album which was hugely influential and significant to rock.  Of course, fans will argue this all to death.   You guys do realize that if every past and present member were to be included, there would be something like two dozen people up on that stage.  

I think Axl will be there.  Why not?  And I can't believe the number of people, here, who really think that it's totally up to him as to who'll be there and how it will be handled.  Are you guys serious?  This hasn't been just his band.

[estebanf]

It has to be original lineup to receive this honour. That's the only reason why they've been inducted into the Rock n roll Hall of Fame.

source?

Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists? contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.  I think, probably, the HOF is basing the induction on the AFD album which was hugely influential and significant to rock.  Of course, fans will argue this all to death.   You guys do realize that if every past and present member were to be included, there would be something like two dozen people up on that stage.  

I think Axl will be there.  Why not?  And I can't believe the number of people, here, who really think that it's totally up to him as to who'll be there and how it will be handled.  Are you guys serious?  This hasn't been just his band.

sorry, but I cant find anything similar to ''It has to be original lineup to receive this honour. That's the only reason why they've been inducted into the Rock n roll Hall of Fame. '' in that paragraph...

[faldor]

It has to be original lineup to receive this honour. That's the only reason why they've been inducted into the Rock n roll Hall of Fame.

source?

If you think they are being inducted because of Chinese Democracy, you are beyond delusional my friend.
Their induction into the HOF has been a hot topic since long before Democracy was even released.

You LOVE the band post '94. That's great.
GN'R's legacy had been cemented before '94.
They would be on the ballot whether Axl continued all these years or not.

Pretty sure the HOF couldn't give two shits about the lawsuits between Slash and Axl.

a source or GTFO.

PS: Pretty sure Axl Rose couldn't give two shits about HOF 

I'm a big supporter of the new band and appreciate your enthusiasm, but I think Axl cares a great deal for the HOF.  Since you're all about sources, do you have a source saying otherwise?  He said during the TMS interview that he was honored to induct Elton John.  He thanked the Hall last night.  That seems like caring to me.

[estebanf]

 This hasn't been just his band.

Of course not. But the fact HE (and not Slash or Steven or Duff) created it, plus the fact that HE (and not Slash or Steven or Duff) supported it in the bad times and worked hard to got it back from the coma between 1994 and 2000, plus the fact that HE (and not Slash or Steven or Duff) is the only one fighting for giving the band a present and a future (new album, touring, interviews, etc) gives him way more credits than Slash, Steven or Duff (i refuse to even mention Sorum or Gilby in all this subject)


This was not his band, as you said. Slash was in this band, Robin Finck was in this band, Izzy Stradlin was in this band and Brain Mantia was in this band. Everyone who played a part in this game should be there or nothing, IMO.

[estebanf]

It has to be original lineup to receive this honour. That's the only reason why they've been inducted into the Rock n roll Hall of Fame.

source?

If you think they are being inducted because of Chinese Democracy, you are beyond delusional my friend.
Their induction into the HOF has been a hot topic since long before Democracy was even released.

You LOVE the band post '94. That's great.
GN'R's legacy had been cemented before '94.
They would be on the ballot whether Axl continued all these years or not.

Pretty sure the HOF couldn't give two shits about the lawsuits between Slash and Axl.

a source or GTFO.

PS: Pretty sure Axl Rose couldn't give two shits about HOF 

I'm a big supporter of the new band and appreciate your enthusiasm, but I think Axl cares a great deal for the HOF.  Since you're all about sources, do you have a source saying otherwise?  He said during the TMS interview that he was honored to induct Elton John.  He thanked the Hall last night.  That seems like caring to me.

that's a matter of interpretations. you think Axl has enthusiasm for this HOF thing. I agree. But I dont think he will sell his soul to the devil for a fucking award. Thinking the opposite is not knowing Axl at all.

here's a source:

Wouldn't you make more money?

If the music was there, meaning new music, I can't say for sure right now -- and there have been market surveys, and various promoters have put together different projections and analysis that in areas where there could be more, it's not enough to sell your soul and live in hell the rest of your life for, that's definitely certain.

http://www.spinner.ca/2009/02/27/axl-rose-insists-original-guns-n-roses-lineup-is-dead-and-burie/

[Bodhi]

http://www.cleveland.com/popmusic/index.ssf/2011/12/rock_and_roll_hall_of_fame-bou.html

This says that Matt Sorum is in.

"From the current lineup, Rose and Reed are the only members headed into the Rock Hall. Inducted alongside them will be ex-bandmates Slash, Izzy Stradlin, Duff McKagan, Steven Adler and Matt Sorum -- i.e., musicians from the group?s heyday in the late ?80s and early ?90s."

anyone find out if this is accurate yet??

[MR.BROWNSTONE]

Congrats to Guns N' Roses. Great to see they made it in on the this time around. 

[LongGoneDay]

Why aren't Tommy and Richard included? They've been in the band forever and played on a album.

Chris Pitman is in the band even from a longer time than Richard... and his creative input and efforts for the bands musical catalogue is IMMENSELY BIGGER than Sorum's, Gilby, Adler, etc...

You're not taking into account the fact that it's only your opinion that Pitman's creative input outweighs Sorum, Adler etc, nor are you taking into account the fact that most people don't even know who the hell Chris Pitman is.

Being in a band a long time I guess is an accomplishment in itself, but it alone is not getting anybody into the HOF. The AFD/Illusion era lineup is being inducted for the impact they managed to make during the span of about 6 years. That's pretty impressive. Not to rain on anyones parade, but Pitman can live another 100 years as a member of GN'R, but unless they start turning out multiple successful records, he's probably not sniffing the HOF. Unless of course he shows up to congratulate Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Steven and Matt.

[LongGoneDay]

It has to be original lineup to receive this honour. That's the only reason why they've been inducted into the Rock n roll Hall of Fame.

source?

If you think they are being inducted because of Chinese Democracy, you are beyond delusional my friend.
Their induction into the HOF has been a hot topic since long before Democracy was even released.

You LOVE the band post '94. That's great.
GN'R's legacy had been cemented before '94.
They would be on the ballot whether Axl continued all these years or not.

Pretty sure the HOF couldn't give two shits about the lawsuits between Slash and Axl.

a source or GTFO.

PS: Pretty sure Axl Rose couldn't give two shits about HOF 

My source is common sense. Apparently, not all people have it.

[LordRazZ]

You know, this is pretty amusing to watch. No matter how tight we are as a community, the instant something like this comes up, we start ripping each other apart.

Everyone keeps going back to what Axl would do.

What do you think he would do if he saw all of you bickering like school children?

Sometimes, it isn't just the media that can put a bad spin on a good thing. Look through this thread. See my point?

Let the band decide. And by band, I mean ALL of them. Past, present etc. What they decide is what they decide. No amount of pissing and moaning in this thread will help anything.

[gnrjanus]

Look whatever is going to happen it's going to downsize this band or put rumors into the world that we all read and shared in the past.

Remember the afd 20 year thing where there was this party and all bandmembers came to. I mean all from the orriginal and uyi tour line-up and they jammed on stage (Steven and Izzy don't remember if duff played 2) but they were all there and hanging out and talking to each other.

That is what's going to happen. Certain players will not talk to each other and I don't expect that... I just expect them to show up. and maybe duff and Slash/izzy and steven on stage thanking everyone...

Perhaps Axl will show up and say his words.... but Don't expect and performance from the afd line-up, If it does happen it's as golden as it gets but it's also negative from the press... as that the press is going to say Wow guns back on stage after 20 years or whatever in the orriginal line-up and they are going to tour the world... when actualy nothing special has happend... they played a song or 2 on stage for the rnrhf thing... but that's it

Don't expect to much out of it...
would be cool but don't expect it it would sooth the matter.

[Judas Fuckin Priest]

Congrats Guns n' Roses !! 

[Verasa]

Just be happy Guns N' Roses are in. First ballot in, thats pretty impressive.  

Guns is just an unusual kinda story with the old lineup and post '94. A lot of people had a hand in the band as far as on record and writing tunes. Axl's the Captain. I would have a hard time in just having the old represented with out an acknowledgement of Guns now and can say the same for bringing up Guns without no talk at all about 1985-1994.

[MrMojoRa]

I'm more excited about Axl's 50th.

[estebanf]

The AFD/Illusion era lineup is being inducted

source?