'Live ?!*@ Like A Suicide' Vinyl & Cassette Buyers Guide

[Tickets There]

Definately a pain in the ass mate, Its been driving me nuts for years! Ill have a look at my cassette later and compare it with your guide

That would be sweet, cheers! I've only ever seen my own copy of that.

Did you keep the copies Alan gave you to check against others?

[SlashRxR]

My Dad told me that back in the day right before Appetite came out, my Uncle who lived in Hollywood brought him that cassette. He told also that both sides had the same 4 songs. Are the songs on both sides on the cassette. Because my Dad said if it is real he'll find it and give it to me. Any help??

[williambailey]

Yeah I've still got the 2 copies I got from Alan, although they are both still sealed so I can't look at the vinyl itself

[Tickets There]

My Dad told me that back in the day right before Appetite came out, my Uncle who lived in Hollywood brought him that cassette. He told also that both sides had the same 4 songs. Are the songs on both sides on the cassette. Because my Dad said if it is real he'll find it and give it to me. Any help??

Yep, Side A and B of the cassette play the same four tracks; so you should be good

[Tickets There]

Yeah I've still got the 2 copies I got from Alan, although they are both still sealed so I can't look at the vinyl itself

Ah not sure it'll help much anyways. A lot of folks who bought (or claim to have bought) it at the time say conflicting things about the vinyl's appearance so round in circles we go.

[williambailey]

Yeah I've still got the 2 copies I got from Alan, although they are both still sealed so I can't look at the vinyl itself

Ah not sure it'll help much anyways. A lot of folks who bought (or claim to have bought) it at the time say conflicting things about the vinyl's appearance so round in circles we go.

I know the vinyl he sold was legitimate, not boots.

Maybe there are just some variations arising from the pressing plant.

[eragon]

I bought the cassette a couple years back for about 50 $.

[Tickets There]

Yeah I've still got the 2 copies I got from Alan, although they are both still sealed so I can't look at the vinyl itself

Ah not sure it'll help much anyways. A lot of folks who bought (or claim to have bought) it at the time say conflicting things about the vinyl's appearance so round in circles we go.

I know the vinyl he sold was legitimate, not boots.

Maybe there are just some variations arising from the pressing plant.

I think that's it to be honest. I collect Def Leppard vinyl and did a massive inventory recently and the amount of differences between pressings for the one item was ridiculous. First 1,000 of this has ?Elliott? spelt wrong, first 10,000 missing this track?etc, etc. Several versions of the same release for the same country printed at the same time. So differences between version for 25,000 isn?t surprising.

I think the art work and vinyl weight or the main things to go on (not even sure about the weight). For the art work, they obviously had to reproduce it from either an original LLAS or LIES back cover, so the quality couldn?t be the same as a genuine copy. LIES has a darker cover that syncs with reports about the fake vinyl?s appearance. But the accuracy of the copies (labels especially) seems to suggest they might have reproduced from an original LLAS.

I?m willing to be the cover is the key to spotting the fakes. As reported by a few people, the back of the original has that red tint, the fake doesn?t. And the overall darkness on the front is a lot stronger than the original showing the change when reproducing a copy from a copy, rather than the original art work which they wouldn?t have had access to. Today you could probably do a decent job with photo-shop, but these were meant to have been done years ago so doubt they could have matched the original so much that you can?t tell the difference.

[Limulus]

i do have a sealed LLAS vinyl from a direct friend of Doug Goldstein. you want me to make pictures?

[Tickets There]

i do have a sealed LLAS vinyl from a direct friend of Doug Goldstein. you want me to make pictures?

Hell yeah, the more the merrier ))

[pilferk]

My Dad told me that back in the day right before Appetite came out, my Uncle who lived in Hollywood brought him that cassette. He told also that both sides had the same 4 songs. Are the songs on both sides on the cassette. Because my Dad said if it is real he'll find it and give it to me. Any help??

What is it about uncles and Gnr?

My uncle lived in LA, at the time, as well.  He didn't send me an original, though. He kept that (still has it, AFAIK). I've got a home made boot leg (as did a couple of my other cousins)....which I still have (and it PLAYS!) tucked away.

[wadey]

Just got another fake suicide today and i have proof of the sterling stamp on both original and fake. Ill post some pics when i get to my pc... Be warned though, im about to turn this thread on its ass!!!

[wadey]

All pics are now taken, including the sterling stamps. Just waiting to get on my pc to show everyone. I will not tell you which is the fake though. I want people to guess just by the pics, when we buy stuff from the net all we go by is pictures so this way we can get a true reflection what people think

[troccoli]

Can't wait!

[wadey]

Right then here we go !!!!!  - actual proof that the "sterling " stamp is on the Fake
2 suicides - 1 legit and 1 fake  - all pictures marked A & B - can you spot the fake from the pics
sorry for all the pictures but im just trying to show all angles
all pictures have been taken with the records side by side (apart from sterling) , taken in natural sunlight with no flash

[suicide]

Wow, never knew the fakes looks so real! I really can't say which one is real. Extremely good reproduction though!

[wadey]

Wow, never knew the fakes looks so real! I really can't say which one is real. Extremely good reproduction though!

to be fair mate i could only spot it cos i could could compare with my original, anyone buying this that didnt already own one would be stuffed
this is how good the fakes are becoming!!!

[troccoli]

I'm gonna say that copy B is real based mostly on the jacket spine, but I still really have no idea.  Just out of curiosity, how do you know that the one "real" one you have is well, real?

[wadey]

I'm gonna say that copy B is real based mostly on the jacket spine, but I still really have no idea.  Just out of curiosity, how do you know that the one "real" one you have is well, real?

ill give more information when other members give thier opinion 

[Limulus]

just compared to my sealed LLAS which provenly(!) comes through one of their old managers.
no daylight here right now...comparing to my LLAS right in front of me....the more "red" or "darker red" one of yours should be the real one (B)....from the last pics and the jacket spine. the more red colors are more in A in your first pics though - probably a Cam and light set-up?

here 2 pics of my LP (done with flashlight though, can do it on daylight if really wanted):