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« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2011, 05:49:38 AM »

I believe Manson roots go back to 1989 or early 90s at the latest. Korn was an interesting progression to NIN/Manson but were shortlived because where can you take your sound from there

Korn were shortlived? You realise that they're still going, right? And they've taken their sound to a lot of interesting places.

I'm coming at this from a different standpoint to everyone hear, because I love all of the bands from the early 90's (Nirvana, AIC, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, STP, Screaming Trees etc.), the stuff that happened in the late 90's with Manson, Korn and Deftones, that bit in between with bands like Nine Inch Nails, and Slipknot, Stone Sour and Avenged Sevenfold. I really can't understand why people would bother comparing them and talk about which are better, because to me they've all put out some of my favourite music.

By comparison, there are only a few bands that got big in the 80's that I think are even worth a second glance (Guns N' Roses obviously, Metallica, Jane's Addiction, The Cure... and to a lesser extent because they never really got that big, The Replacements and Soul Asylum).
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« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2011, 09:29:59 AM »

He is a way more versatile singer than Myles or Scott ever will be.  Here is an example of Corey's versatility.  I just feel like he could have fit any style VR wanted to go in.  Once again this just shows Slipknot is a small portion of what Corey does.  One of the best rock songs in recent years in my opinion>>>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0KRDRuZiM

More versatile?  I hope you have more examples than a piano ballad.  Scott Weiland is incredibly versatile:


Bossa Nova: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJuNyfteQg  or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-_rvXfkkI0&feature=related

Country: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ejGWkv1y90

Jazz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t2VSB5EJxc  or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hQsAG8OW9c

Hard Rock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXFB78DNBEg&feature=related

Glam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T92Y7ChqSSk 

Trip Hop/Industrial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK3euiI0BpA or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcy1cuNedQg

Punk-ish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW2ajUGtG4g or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_VvD3mAsI&feature=related

Eastern European-ish (?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxB7f58vii4&feature=related

Christmas Standard:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fpxmDAOePQ

...and then of course there's the work he did w/ VR which most of you are familiar.
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« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2011, 11:04:09 AM »

I believe Manson roots go back to 1989 or early 90s at the latest. Korn was an interesting progression to NIN/Manson but were shortlived because where can you take your sound from there. Linkin Park was a good mixture of nu-metal and pop that was interesting but lacked the musicianship to stop rehashing the same songs over and over. System of a down..great band sonically like soundgarden to a lesser extent. Rage was pre-numetal so they are great. Then you have whinny emo-metal which also was short-lived. Now you have bands like AX7 extremely talented players getting away from the blandness of the past 15yrs but still where is the next great frontman?

Glad you mentioned A7X, I saw them tonight live for the very first time, and those guys are definitely contenders for carrying the flag of new hard rock once the likes of Metallica and GN'R are no longer around.
And I'd definitely put M. Shadows up there as a potential great frontman. He certainly had the vocals, he just needs to work on some of his stage presence, which is already pretty good.
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« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2011, 11:13:48 AM »

He is a way more versatile singer than Myles or Scott ever will be.  Here is an example of Corey's versatility.  I just feel like he could have fit any style VR wanted to go in.  Once again this just shows Slipknot is a small portion of what Corey does.  One of the best rock songs in recent years in my opinion>>>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0KRDRuZiM

More versatile?  I hope you have more examples than a piano ballad.  Scott Weiland is incredibly versatile:


Bossa Nova: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJuNyfteQg  or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-_rvXfkkI0&feature=related

Country: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ejGWkv1y90

Jazz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t2VSB5EJxc  or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hQsAG8OW9c

Hard Rock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXFB78DNBEg&feature=related

Glam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T92Y7ChqSSk 

Trip Hop/Industrial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK3euiI0BpA or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcy1cuNedQg

Punk-ish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW2ajUGtG4g or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_VvD3mAsI&feature=related

Eastern European-ish (?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxB7f58vii4&feature=related

Christmas Standard:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fpxmDAOePQ

...and then of course there's the work he did w/ VR which most of you are familiar.

awesome work digging this up

bodhi's definition of versatile is screaming nonsense  to singing a ballad.
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« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2011, 11:24:16 AM »

After looking into more Corey Taylor stuff the dude is really a VERY versatile singer.  Slipknot is only a fraction of what the guy has done.  I've seen him do great acoustic work, piano ballads, rockers and metal songs.  He is a way more versatile singer than Myles or Scott ever will be.  That is not a shot at them,  but it is true.  There are songs Corey Taylor sings that you would never guess were him because his voice sounds completely different than other songs he has done, that is the type of front man I want in VR.  

He also has no ego, is a laid back dude, and fronted one of the most successful rock/metal bands of the last decade.  Slipknot is way bigger than anything Slash or Duff have done post 1994.  I dont know where else you were going to find a guy with that much on his resume who was still starstrucked to be jamming with Slash and Duff and was completely grateful for the opportunity.  Also from a business perspective, the Corey/VR potential marriage garnered a ton of press.  

Maybe Phineas and Ferb's schedule will free up and we can get VR back on track!!


Here is an example of Corey's versatility.  I just feel like he could have fit any style VR wanted to go in.  Once again this just shows Slipknot is a small portion of what Corey does.  One of the best rock songs in recent years in my opinion>>>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0KRDRuZiM




That is a  good song he really doesn't leap through my speakers and do anything special though. sounds like a hundred other very good rock singers. doesn't make me spine tingle or really provoke my thoughts like Loving The Alien or Atlanta from STP 

honestly, watch that Barbarella live vid Tip posted and try to convince me Corey can hold Scott's Dick?  no way

Corey to Scott is like Justin Timberlake to Michael Jackson..... Still good artist but just not in the same stratosphere.

This vid makes Myles Kennedy look like Axl stage presence wise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72VFOazWGAk


Scott doing same song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF4m8riqWpM

One looks like a legendary iconic rockstar... the other looks like a fan who won a contest
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« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2011, 03:52:55 PM »


Corey to Scott is like Justin Timberlake to Michael Jackson..... Still good artist but just not in the same stratosphere.

This vid makes Myles Kennedy look like Axl stage presence wise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72VFOazWGAk


Scott doing same song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF4m8riqWpM

One looks like a legendary iconic rockstar... the other looks like a fan who won a contest

Scott ain't Michael Jackson of anything. He's good but not great. Same goes with Corey but I would like to see him in VR rather than Myles+Slash shit or "unknow talent".

And that link vs. link thing is just stupid because anyone who has seen Corey with Slipknot or Stone Sour knows that that guy can perform a lot better than that.
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« Reply #46 on: July 30, 2011, 06:30:20 PM »

Scott has a range, a small range, but in that register he fucking owns....  However, that "range" limits VR/Slash to the kind of music they want to do...  I am not saying Myles is perfect, he is not, but he is the CLOSEST thing to that sound Slash has found.... 
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« Reply #47 on: July 30, 2011, 11:54:09 PM »

Scott has a range, a small range, but in that register he fucking owns....  However, that "range" limits VR/Slash to the kind of music they want to do...  I am not saying Myles is perfect, he is not, but he is the CLOSEST thing to that sound Slash has found.... 

And that just sad. And the fact that he rejected Sebastian Bach.
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« Reply #48 on: August 01, 2011, 10:47:03 AM »

He is a way more versatile singer than Myles or Scott ever will be.  Here is an example of Corey's versatility.  I just feel like he could have fit any style VR wanted to go in.  Once again this just shows Slipknot is a small portion of what Corey does.  One of the best rock songs in recent years in my opinion>>>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0KRDRuZiM

More versatile?  I hope you have more examples than a piano ballad.  Scott Weiland is incredibly versatile:


Bossa Nova: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJuNyfteQg  or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-_rvXfkkI0&feature=related

Country: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ejGWkv1y90

Jazz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t2VSB5EJxc  or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hQsAG8OW9c

Hard Rock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXFB78DNBEg&feature=related

Glam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T92Y7ChqSSk 

Trip Hop/Industrial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK3euiI0BpA or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcy1cuNedQg

Punk-ish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW2ajUGtG4g or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_VvD3mAsI&feature=related

Eastern European-ish (?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxB7f58vii4&feature=related

Christmas Standard:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fpxmDAOePQ

...and then of course there's the work he did w/ VR which most of you are familiar.

awesome work digging this up

bodhi's definition of versatile is screaming nonsense  to singing a ballad.

you guys just proved my point...thank you.  Every one of those songs is the same Scott Weiland voice.  He doesn't have incredible vocal range for hitting high notes, everyone of those songs he is singing the exact same way with a different style of music behind him, that doesn't make him versatile.

Versatile is a guy like Corey Taylor where when you listen to Stone Sour you would never know he was also the singer of Slipknot.  Scott Weiland is not branching out, he is being Scott Weiland on all of those songs.

I like Scott Weiland, but I'm not blown away buy the dude.  His stage presence is better than most, although a little feminine for my liking.  I already said that STP and NIrvana were my favorite bands to come out of that era, and STP does hold up better than Nirvana.
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« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2011, 06:53:26 PM »

He is a way more versatile singer than Myles or Scott ever will be.  Here is an example of Corey's versatility.  I just feel like he could have fit any style VR wanted to go in.  Once again this just shows Slipknot is a small portion of what Corey does.  One of the best rock songs in recent years in my opinion>>>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0KRDRuZiM

More versatile?  I hope you have more examples than a piano ballad.  Scott Weiland is incredibly versatile:


awesome work digging this up

bodhi's definition of versatile is screaming nonsense  to singing a ballad.


Versatile is a guy like Corey Taylor where when you listen to Stone Sour you would never know he was also the singer of Slipknot.  Scott Weiland is not branching out, he is being Scott Weiland on all of those songs.


I guess we have differing opinions on what it means to be versatile then...  When I think of versatile artists I think of David Bowie or Jeff Beck.  Both of those guys  have distinctive "voices" which means you immediately know who they are when you hear them, BUT they fit in perfectly, regardless of the genre they are attempting.

I mean when I listen to the vid you posted....I can see your point.  I would never know who that singer was because he sounds like a million other singers.  If being versatile means being able to sound like every other male singer out there, then yeh, I would say Corey is pretty versatile.

I'm not trying to knock your taste in music (you can enjoy whomever you want, God knows I listen to music that most people would find repellent), but to say Corey is more versatile than Scott seems patently absurd, at least to my ears.     

I'm willing to get educated on this tho.  If you have more vids to illustrate your point, please do post them. 
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« Reply #50 on: August 01, 2011, 09:28:20 PM »

See to me, scott in vR doesn't sound like scott in STP

maybe thats just me though

I think Scott is one of those special talents... Corey to me is no different than the Chester Benningtons of the world... talented for sure but doesn't blow me away... .can't tell no difference in him and the dude from Seether or Staind or those other bands in that vein
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« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2011, 05:01:13 PM »

At the risk of pissing you both of... you're both so lame.
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« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2011, 05:11:07 PM »

Part 2 of this interview with Matt has been posted:

Lokaos Rock Show entrevista Matt Sorum - 2? parte (2/2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9xbOp1xZ08

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« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2011, 10:18:51 PM »

Part 2 of this interview with Matt has been posted:

Lokaos Rock Show entrevista Matt Sorum - 2? parte (2/2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9xbOp1xZ08



This is a really great interview.  Matt is really candid about GNR and tells some great stories.  He has a different perspective from being "the new guy."   He does an Izzy impression twice that is pretty hilarious. 
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« Reply #54 on: August 03, 2011, 04:27:42 PM »

Part 2 of this interview with Matt has been posted:

Lokaos Rock Show entrevista Matt Sorum - 2? parte (2/2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9xbOp1xZ08



This is a really great interview.  Matt is really candid about GNR and tells some great stories.  He has a different perspective from being "the new guy."   He does an Izzy impression twice that is pretty hilarious. 

It is a good interview, the most likable I've seen Matt in a long time. Smiley  Matt talks about playing with GN'R for the first time in Rio.  And I didn't know that Nikki Sixx asked him to join Motley Crue...more than once.
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