GN'R confirmed for Rock In Rio 2011 (October 2)

[One.In.A.Million]

I personally think that he hurts his vocals during Live and Let Die when he screeches as long as he does, and it effects the rest of the performance. Don't get me wrong, I also think he still sings awesome, I just wonder if it could be like it used to be if they drop LALD.

Look, what people don't realize about Axl's voice is that it's always been like this at the first few shows... 

Rio 2001, Monterrey 2007 and now Rio 2011. This is the start of a long tour, so Axl's voice has to take shape and work it's way around to his signature state. Axl hasn't been putting on 2 and a half hour rock concerts regularly for a long time, so it's just got to work to get there.

[johnreed3344]

I personally think that he hurts his vocals during Live and Let Die when he screeches as long as he does, and it effects the rest of the performance. Don't get me wrong, I also think he still sings awesome, I just wonder if it could be like it used to be if they drop LALD.

Look, what people don't realize about Axl's voice is that it's always been like this at the first few shows... 

Rio 2001, Monterrey 2007 and now Rio 2011. This is the start of a long tour, so Axl's voice has to take shape and work it's way around to his signature state. Axl hasn't been putting on 2 and a half hour rock concerts regularly for a long time, so it's just got to work to get there.

AGREE FRIEND!

[mauritox]

I personally think that he hurts his vocals during Live and Let Die when he screeches as long as he does, and it effects the rest of the performance. Don't get me wrong, I also think he still sings awesome, I just wonder if it could be like it used to be if they drop LALD.

Look, what people don't realize about Axl's voice is that it's always been like this at the first few shows... 

Rio 2001, Monterrey 2007 and now Rio 2011. This is the start of a long tour, so Axl's voice has to take shape and work it's way around to his signature state. Axl hasn't been putting on 2 and a half hour rock concerts regularly for a long time, so it's just got to work to get there.

look, even though what you said it's true, i don't think that's a good thing... i have tickets for the next saturday show and i didn't spend a lot of money to see him warming up for the us tour, i wanna see him in top form (maybe not at 100%, but at least at 80%)

[MR.BROWNSTONE]

What an amazing first show to kick off the tour. They all did a great job dealing with the poor weather. One hell of the set and great to see Estranged played again live.    

[One.In.A.Million]

I personally think that he hurts his vocals during Live and Let Die when he screeches as long as he does, and it effects the rest of the performance. Don't get me wrong, I also think he still sings awesome, I just wonder if it could be like it used to be if they drop LALD.

Look, what people don't realize about Axl's voice is that it's always been like this at the first few shows... 

Rio 2001, Monterrey 2007 and now Rio 2011. This is the start of a long tour, so Axl's voice has to take shape and work it's way around to his signature state. Axl hasn't been putting on 2 and a half hour rock concerts regularly for a long time, so it's just got to work to get there.

look, even though what you said it's true, i don't think that's a good thing... i have tickets for the next saturday show and i didn't spend a lot of money to see him warming up for the us tour, i wanna see him in top form (maybe not at 100%, but at least at 80%)

What the fuck...

Mate, your going to see Axl Rose, a living legend, and Guns N' Roses the most iconic rock band ever. You should feel honoured to be in GN'R's presence, let alone complain about stuff.

If this is the attitude of some so called fans, just don't go to the shows, and let the true fans gain access to the tickets. 

(FACEPALM) 

[mauritox]

I personally think that he hurts his vocals during Live and Let Die when he screeches as long as he does, and it effects the rest of the performance. Don't get me wrong, I also think he still sings awesome, I just wonder if it could be like it used to be if they drop LALD.

Look, what people don't realize about Axl's voice is that it's always been like this at the first few shows... 

Rio 2001, Monterrey 2007 and now Rio 2011. This is the start of a long tour, so Axl's voice has to take shape and work it's way around to his signature state. Axl hasn't been putting on 2 and a half hour rock concerts regularly for a long time, so it's just got to work to get there.

look, even though what you said it's true, i don't think that's a good thing... i have tickets for the next saturday show and i didn't spend a lot of money to see him warming up for the us tour, i wanna see him in top form (maybe not at 100%, but at least at 80%)

What the fuck...

Mate, your going to see Axl Rose, a living legend, and Guns N' Roses the most iconic rock band ever. You should feel honoured to be in GN'R's presence, let alone complain about stuff.

If this is the attitude of some so called fans, just don't go to the shows, and let the true fans gain access to the tickets.

(FACEPALM) 

are you kidding me? i'm not even complaining about the late starts, set-lists, his looking or whatever... i just wanna see him giving a good performance, is that wrong? give me a break. Shit, even last year i spent a lot of money and wasn't able to properly hear axl and nonetheless this year i gave him one more chance, i'm not a real fan? yeah right

[One.In.A.Million]

I personally think that he hurts his vocals during Live and Let Die when he screeches as long as he does, and it effects the rest of the performance. Don't get me wrong, I also think he still sings awesome, I just wonder if it could be like it used to be if they drop LALD.

Look, what people don't realize about Axl's voice is that it's always been like this at the first few shows... 

Rio 2001, Monterrey 2007 and now Rio 2011. This is the start of a long tour, so Axl's voice has to take shape and work it's way around to his signature state. Axl hasn't been putting on 2 and a half hour rock concerts regularly for a long time, so it's just got to work to get there.

look, even though what you said it's true, i don't think that's a good thing... i have tickets for the next saturday show and i didn't spend a lot of money to see him warming up for the us tour, i wanna see him in top form (maybe not at 100%, but at least at 80%)

What the fuck...

Mate, your going to see Axl Rose, a living legend, and Guns N' Roses the most iconic rock band ever. You should feel honoured to be in GN'R's presence, let alone complain about stuff.

If this is the attitude of some so called fans, just don't go to the shows, and let the true fans gain access to the tickets.

(FACEPALM) 

are you kidding me? i'm not even complaining about the late starts, set-lists, his looking or whatever... i just wanna see him giving a good performance, is that wrong? give me a break. Shit, even last year i spent a lot of money and wasn't able to properly hear axl and nonetheless this year i gave him one more chance, i'm not a real fan? yeah right

Yes, your not a real fan. Because if you was a real fan, you'd be happy seeing Axl singing the way he did last night, because it still rocked like hell. If you was a real fan, you would have worked out by now, that all of the missed lyrics was because of the teleprompters being covered up because of the rain. 

So in all, if you was a real fan you wouldn't wine like a little bitch, about things that are trivial and nonesense. Axl sounds amazing live, and I'm sure Axl will be able to see the teleprompters fine next time, so no need for you to worry your little cotton socks, punk.

Some """"fans"""" amaze me. 

[mauritox]

I personally think that he hurts his vocals during Live and Let Die when he screeches as long as he does, and it effects the rest of the performance. Don't get me wrong, I also think he still sings awesome, I just wonder if it could be like it used to be if they drop LALD.

Look, what people don't realize about Axl's voice is that it's always been like this at the first few shows... 

Rio 2001, Monterrey 2007 and now Rio 2011. This is the start of a long tour, so Axl's voice has to take shape and work it's way around to his signature state. Axl hasn't been putting on 2 and a half hour rock concerts regularly for a long time, so it's just got to work to get there.

look, even though what you said it's true, i don't think that's a good thing... i have tickets for the next saturday show and i didn't spend a lot of money to see him warming up for the us tour, i wanna see him in top form (maybe not at 100%, but at least at 80%)

What the fuck...

Mate, your going to see Axl Rose, a living legend, and Guns N' Roses the most iconic rock band ever. You should feel honoured to be in GN'R's presence, let alone complain about stuff.

If this is the attitude of some so called fans, just don't go to the shows, and let the true fans gain access to the tickets.

(FACEPALM) 

are you kidding me? i'm not even complaining about the late starts, set-lists, his looking or whatever... i just wanna see him giving a good performance, is that wrong? give me a break. Shit, even last year i spent a lot of money and wasn't able to properly hear axl and nonetheless this year i gave him one more chance, i'm not a real fan? yeah right

Yes, your not a real fan. Because if you was a real fan, you'd be happy seeing Axl singing the way he did last night, because it still rocked like hell. If you was a real fan, you would have worked out by now, that all of the missed lyrics was because of the teleprompters being covered up because of the rain. 

So in all, if you was a real fan you wouldn't wine like a little bitch, about things that are trivial and nonesense. Axl sounds amazing live, and I'm sure Axl will be able to see the teleprompters fine next time, so no need for you to worry your little cotton socks, punk.

Some """"fans"""" amaze me. 

dude, read again my posts, where the hell i complained about trivial things? I didn't even mention Axl messing up the lyrics (i completely understand it), all the things i numbered are the things that others usually complain about, i don't. I just want him to sound good and me being able to actually hear him. Did axl sound good yesterday at the show? I don't know, i wasn't there, people say he did. Did axl sound good through the broadcasting? Definitely no. Plus, you admitted axl's voice is not at its best at the beginning of a tour, then you should understand my concern.

[Bazfreak]

I was there!!!!

F*ck everyone complaining about the band/Axl! F*ck you all!!!  You dont know what youre saying until you actually WATCH the concert, not in your nice and cozy bedroom, but in the middle of 60,000 people under bad weather.
Despite the heavy rain and cold during the WHOLE concert, the band managed to put out a hell of a concert! Also despite technical problems.
A lot of people really left the concert before GNR hit the stage, I would say because easily around 70% of the fans were in fact SOAD'S fans! I dont blame them for leaving, it was around 0220AM when GNR hit the stage (Main stage concerts started 18:30) people were under heavy rain, it was cold, the stage became a swiming pool! People were saying the concert would be canceled!

I heard Estranged live, that for me was a dream come true! 

If you didnt like it ,your opinion is just another opinion! The fact is that Axl and the guys made me and a lot of people have a lot of fun!

[Bodhi]

I was there!!!!

F*ck everyone complaining about the band/Axl! F*ck you all!!!  You dont know what youre saying until you actually WATCH the concert, not in your nice and cozy bedroom, but in the middle of 60,000 people under bad weather.
Despite the heavy rain and cold during the WHOLE concert, the band managed to put out a hell of a concert! Also despite technical problems.
A lot of people really left the concert before GNR hit the stage, I would say because easily around 70% of the fans were in fact SOAD'S fans! I dont blame them for leaving, it was around 0220AM when GNR hit the stage (Main stage concerts started 18:30) people were under heavy rain, it was cold, the stage became a swiming pool! People were saying the concert would be canceled!

I heard Estranged live, that for me was a dream come true! 

If you didnt like it ,your opinion is just another opinion! The fact is that Axl and the guys made me and a lot of people have a lot of fun!

I agree.  I've read a few pretty negative reviews, by journalists who were not even there!!  I stayed up all night and watched the live stream and I thought it was awesome.  Sure there were some sound issues but certainly not enough to ruin the show.  I thought they played with a lot of passion last night, and "Estranged" was amazing.  There are people that are going to hate on this band no matter what, the only thing that GNR can do is rock the roof off of every arena they play in for all their diehard fans, fuck everyone else.  I've got tickets to 5 shows on the east coast so far, possibly more if they announce more dates.  I can't wait for each and every one of them!

It's also funny that the people who seem to be bitching or shitting on the band are all people that either I don't recognize or I rarely ever see on the board.  They all come out of the woodwork whenever a show doesn't go 100% right.

[Dexter103]

I just re-watched the Estranged video in 720 HD, and it was incredible--the band and guitarists nailed it.  Axl will get it together, as his voice always seems to get stronger as the tour goes on!  He seems to find his range, and I don't know if its the extra drinks and what not with the band, but his rasp always gets much better and controlled as the tour goes on.  I would also imagine the rain and cold air dampened the sound and was screwing with his voice!  This band has the potential to be the most wicked live GNR line-up yet, and I believe it is just a matter of time before they start firing on all cylinders!

[xxgunsxx]

I think if anyone thinks Axl had a rough night in Rio, you can look back at many recordings throughout the bands career and see mishaps. Indiana 91 during Jungle comes to mind. Who knows? The band has grown over time, they will never have the look or feel of 1986 or 1988 again. Just like Zepplin, the Stones, Elvis, Motley...any band that has grown with time will change and envolve. We should be happy that the band in one form or another continues to play awesome concerts, puts out a record here and there (yes, there's more to come with records). Most bands these days just quit, hang it up, and leave the scene. As for Axl's temper flare up, big whoopie do. I'd be pretty pissed to if I was having tecnical issues, it's embarassing to him. It's no different then when I saw Dj Ashba with Beautiful Creatures in 2002 in Iowa and he was having issues with his guitars and took one during a song and threw at it, at what looked like his guitar tech and man was his PISSED. Like i said, just my two cents but we all should be happy the band is here and performing. We could be back in 1997 not knowing what was going on, some of us are just not happy with anything it seems. :-)

[downzy56]

Hey All,

I think people really need to relax, whether you loved or hated last night's show.  At the end of the day, it's a f'n rock and roll concert.  If you weren't there, if you didn't pay money to see the band, seriously, you probably have bigger issues in your life to worry about.  If you were at the show and love it, then awesome.  If you saw it live and thought Axl didn't measure up, then that's your right as a paying customer and someone who was there in person.  But really, this isn't a real problem for anyone but those who make a living off this band. 

On the other side of things, no one here is capable of deciding whether someone is a "real fan" or not.  Seriously, I've spent over $5k on seeing this band over the past ten years, have a GNR tattoo covering my right bicep and a personalized GNR drivers plate.  Because I might think Axl didn't have it last night that warrants people on here to label me as a "non-fan."  If Axl's performance last night did it for you, then great.  For those who said his voice needs some work to get into game shape, that's not an unreasonable claim to make.  Moreover, anyone who has tickets for an upcoming show is completely justified to be a little anxious and perhaps somewhat irked at being treated as a warm-up show.  A band should rehearse intensively (that means all band members), play some warm up shows, and then bring the house down when it counts. 

Then again, perhaps it's just a matter of preference.  There's some who like Axl's 2002, no rasp, somewhat weak vocals.  What we saw last night was very reminiscent of that.  To claim Axl wasn't suffering from pitch and breath control problems is either deaf or unwilling to see obvious fault in their heros.  But to get upset over it is kind of stupid.  If you have tickets for an upcoming show, yeah, maybe last night's performance kind of took the wind out from your sails.  That's understandable.  But have a little faith that things will be rectified, problems will be solved, and that at the end of the day, it's only rock n' roll.  Plus there's a good chance you'll get to see Estranged performed live!  For me, that's a good enough reason to justify the ticket price.

Cheers,

Andrew

[Koskenkorvasieni]

I've got to agree with Andrew here, I think it's downright absurd that you can't be the least bit critical towards your favourite band without being labeled as "not a real fan". If a real fan means being willling to hear Axl fart on a microphone for three hours and call it a masterpiece and a brilliant show, then I guess I'm not a real fan! 

Seriously though, I didn't hate the Rio show and I was absolutely blown away when they played Estranged, a song I thought I'd never hear the current lineup play. But overall, the concert was a bit shaky and I personally feel that GNR can and will do better. As for Axl's voice, it was cold and raining at the show and I'm pretty sure that WILL affect a singer's voice. I've seen it happen to other singers as well, like Roger Daltrey a couple of years ago, The Who played a show in my hometown Helsinki and Daltrey's voice wasn't at its best, which Daltrey said was because of "touring in the summer and too much singing in the rain". 

[D]

Well, i mean judging by Axl's body language last few songs.. I think he'd be the first to say it wasn't one of their best.

but hell, if they can rebound from that Dublin thing last year.. this will be a piece of cake.

[Koskenkorvasieni]

What exactly happened at Dublin last year?

[D]

Remember when people were throwing the bottles and the power got cut by the promoter and Axl had the megaphone etc...


After that, they had one of the greatest shows I've ever seen at Reading

[kukol1978]

I personally think that he hurts his vocals during Live and Let Die when he screeches as long as he does, and it effects the rest of the performance. Don't get me wrong, I also think he still sings awesome, I just wonder if it could be like it used to be if they drop LALD.

Look, what people don't realize about Axl's voice is that it's always been like this at the first few shows... 

Rio 2001, Monterrey 2007 and now Rio 2011. This is the start of a long tour, so Axl's voice has to take shape and work it's way around to his signature state. Axl hasn't been putting on 2 and a half hour rock concerts regularly for a long time, so it's just got to work to get there.

VERY TRUE.ANd im going to say something that he always starts with more wheight and if you remember the last show at abu dabi  he looked like a teeneger. performance that he does

[norway]

Listen to Nightrain, It's So Easy...his voice is spot on and not like in 02.

 In some parts yeah, but people new to Axl might like it. I think it works in melodic parts.

It was not an ideal show to have been recorded and so widely publicised...The fact is for the general tkt buying public, if Axl looks to be 'having an off night' then the whole is New GN'R really GN'R argument becomes a hard one to win...

That's a good point. It doesn't help if Axl isn't on his game. Let's face facts, 98% of the ticket buying public on the US tour isn't exactly there to see Frank Ferrer and Ron Thal.

I disagree...DJAsbha, Richard and Tommy for example have their group of intrested.

And new music-conumers CCL about 'nostalgiabands', so as with Motley Crue the fans are between 12-50 YO.

Axl's voice = win.

[norway]

For those who said his voice needs some work to get into game shape, that's not an unreasonable claim to make. 

I disagree...song-choice, vocal-usage in songs and lenght of the show they should work on instead.

No 50+ rock-singer _in history_ matches Axl's performance here.

A band should rehearse intensively (that means all band members), play some warm up shows, and then bring the house down when it counts. 

I wished they play Oh My God and shuffled the soft songs more for variation, but thats my opinion.

To claim Axl wasn't suffering from pitch and breath control problems is either deaf or unwilling to see obvious fault in their heros.  But to get upset over it is kind of stupid. 

It was better than COMA from90's!!! (it's nothing new in rocknroll )


 

Plus there's a good chance you'll get to see Estranged performed live!  For me, that's a good enough reason to justify the ticket price.

What is it with you estrangedlovers? softrock....

I wanna hear OMG and more heavy stuff w whammy, killswitch, electronica etc

Cheers,

Andrew

/defintly not skogsal