Axl responds to claims about GN'R's future plans

[Giant_Robot]

 

I am all confused, what the hell been happening ?

[jazjme]

Problem is GNR fans seem to think that everything revolves around them and to their liking, and if things aren't going on it is assumed oh god shit, something must be wrong. Blah blah whine whine. Seriously how many bands get harassed as GNR do, by the supposed true fans, does anyone care or bitch and moan about other bands like some do here,? Probably not, but in the end Axl and GNR come though! Whinny bitches need to stop and get off for awhile. I'm not interested in trying to have a 'nice" dialog with some here, but those who know me:) Know me. And all the BS and crap that people like to speculate about , get off your soap box! Jesus Christ the band isn't allowed a break, and just be normal for a few months after a yr of touring?

[draguns]

I am all confused, what the hell been happening ?

The same here. I had asked this before in this thread. Not exactly sure what is going on or the exact issues. One of which seems to be the tour.

[Street of the Blues]

So I wouldn't discount the idea of Guns touring this year yet. But impatience seems to follow this band no matter what their song asks for.

Impatience?

You don't waiting think 2+ years (and counting) for a US tour to materialize after we waited 14 years for an album is excessive?

Frank said Fall 2010, Ashba said Feb 2011 ...

Gawain: Are you serious???

Axl basically just said that there are not, nor were there ever plans for a tour.  

You're weird.

[Limulus]

"...and if things aren't going on it is assumed [by fans] oh god shit, something must be wrong..."

well, if a well-known manager (again) has to leave/left then there is any right to think that something went wrong. when being without managment again its also a normal thing to fear that any next step for this band might be harder to organize and stuff which leads to more delays in plans, its not much of speculation. and honestly no matter how much fans like CD and the 2009/10 shows you dont really want long times off, do you? yeah, off course we arent owned anything and they need breaks, bla bla, but there is so much small stuff which could easily be done in non-release/non-tour-periods (see my post above), why not taking a little effort into that? it'd be more of a win-win situation. you call it whining, others call it constructive critism.

[Fingers]

Tommy's Twitter on Dec. 14th was not very encouraging-I would like to see him stay in the band, I hope he was half joking with the have not been fired yet, have not quit tweet.

[jarmo]

I cleaned up this thread because as usual, people who stay quiet when the band is active, show up to whine about inactivity.





/jarmo

[Manets]

Well, after all, nothing really changed.

Last week was ridiculous. "The most ridiculous week on GNR history". Not really. GNR had nothing to do with that. It was fans trolling other fans.
All we got is that Doc is not the manager anymore.

Axl did much taking time to talk about that. Nothing really changes. If last week hadn't happen on GNR world, would be the same thing.

Now we wait for the future plans. 

[faldor]

So I wouldn't discount the idea of Guns touring this year yet. But impatience seems to follow this band no matter what their song asks for.

Impatience?

You don't waiting think 2+ years (and counting) for a US tour to materialize after we waited 14 years for an album is excessive?

Frank said Fall 2010, Ashba said Feb 2011 ...

Gawain: Are you serious???

Axl basically just said that there are not, nor were there ever plans for a tour.  

You're weird.

You're reading what you want to believe.  I take that to mean that there were never any concrete plans, wheels in motion, dates and venues confirmed for a US tour.  Not that they have never even thought of touring the US.  I'm sure they've been trying to get something going, but for whatever reason it's taken some time and we're still not there yet.  If you want to go and believe that Axl hates his fans in the US and therefore is purposely avoiding touring here, be my guest.  That's just not how I choose to see it.

[faldor]

"...and if things aren't going on it is assumed [by fans] oh god shit, something must be wrong..."

well, if a well-known manager (again) has to leave/left then there is any right to think that something went wrong. when being without managment again its also a normal thing to fear that any next step for this band might be harder to organize and stuff which leads to more delays in plans, its not much of speculation. and honestly no matter how much fans like CD and the 2009/10 shows you dont really want long times off, do you? yeah, off course we arent owned anything and they need breaks, bla bla, but there is so much small stuff which could easily be done in non-release/non-tour-periods (see my post above), why not taking a little effort into that? it'd be more of a win-win situation. you call it whining, others call it constructive critism.

They've been without management before and it didn't seem to slow things down.  Is it an ideal situation?  Of course not.  But they started the tour in Taiwan/Japan without management.  Doc came onboard along the way and they really didn't skip a beat.  I'm sure they've been talking to other potential managers and they're not just sitting by the wayside feeling sorry for themselves.  Maybe Doc is out because he couldn't deliver what they wanted in a timeframe they saw fit and maybe they're now searching for someone who can.  That's pure speculation, but I really don't think the fact that they fired Doc is a reason to get all pessimistic about the future.  If I'm proven to be wrong, so be it, but I don't see this as a huge hurdle.

[Fingers]

Management issues did cause things to slow down, resulting in Axl's lawsuit against Arzoff-according to Axl is caused the album to suffer, as well as a potential Van Halen tour.

[faldor]

Management issues did cause things to slow down, resulting in Axl's lawsuit against Arzoff-according to Axl is caused the album to suffer, as well as a potential Van Halen tour.

Well it seems that it slowed things down at the beginning, though at the same time we may have gotten Chinese Democracy earlier because of management even though the next year certainly seemed to be effected by issues with Azoff.  But in between Azoff and Doc there didn't seem to be too much of a slow down in progress.  Again, it's obviously not an ideal situation and I certainly don't think it speeds anything up.  But at the same time I don't think it's a reason to get too concerned at the moment.  Now if we go on a few more months and see or hear of no progress then I might start to worry.  But the band just got through a year plus of touring a little more than a month ago.  So let's not jump the gun, that's all I'm saying.

[jarmo]

Contrary to anyone's claims there are no concrete plans nor were there ever for a tour, a relaunch or sponsors (n' certainly not to replace anyone in the band) beyond a collection of random ideas thrown out by various individuals w/out any real foundation or negotiations in place other than our prior involvements (which wouldn't take a rocket scientist to put together). And 4 the record Doc McGhee is no longer involved w/either myself or GN'R.
N' b4 it's twisted "prior involvements" has nothing to do with old GN"R.

To those who don't have English as their first language, Axl says there were never any finalized (concrete means something that's not imaginary) plans for a tour, a re-release, sponsors or plans to replace anybody in the band. He says there were ideas, but they were nothing more than just ideas. For example, we can all have ideas about things in life, but to make them into reality, we need to work on them. You can't just say "here's where GN'R should tour". It's not that easy. It takes more work.

Then he says Doc McGhee is not managing Axl or GN'R.




I hope that explained it.


/jarmo

[bolton]

Contrary to anyone's claims there are no concrete plans nor were there ever for a tour, a relaunch or sponsors (n' certainly not to replace anyone in the band) beyond a collection of random ideas thrown out by various individuals w/out any real foundation or negotiations in place other than our prior involvements (which wouldn't take a rocket scientist to put together). And 4 the record Doc McGhee is no longer involved w/either myself or GN'R.
N' b4 it's twisted "prior involvements" has nothing to do with old GN"R.

To those who don't have English as their first language, Axl says there were never any finalized (concrete means something that's not imaginary) plans for a tour, a re-release, sponsors or plans to replace anybody in the band. He says there were ideas, but they were nothing more than just ideas. For example, we can all have ideas about things in life, but to make them into reality, we need to work on them. You can't just say "here's where GN'R should tour". It's not that easy. It takes more work.

Then he says Doc McGhee is not managing Axl or GN'R.




I hope that explained it.


/jarmo

cooĺ, thank you a lot jarmo...i don't know why did axl have a plans to replace tommy?tommy is amazing

[jarmo]

i don't know why did axl have a plans to replace tommy?

He didn't.




/jarmo

[Ali]

i don't know why did axl have a plans to replace tommy?

He didn't.




/jarmo

I think there were never any plans or ideas to replace anyone in the band. I think there were tour ideas, but Axl seemed strongly against the notion anyone in the band was gonna ever be replaced.

Ali

[Dead N' Bloated]

Very vague. I'm not reading into anything, I just wish Axl would give a more defined answer or statement. I'd like to know his thoughts on all of this.

[LordRazZ]

Contrary to anyone's claims there are no concrete plans nor were there ever for a tour, a relaunch or sponsors (n' certainly not to replace anyone in the band) beyond a collection of random ideas thrown out by various individuals w/out any real foundation or negotiations in place other than our prior involvements (which wouldn't take a rocket scientist to put together). And 4 the record Doc McGhee is no longer involved w/either myself or GN'R.
N' b4 it's twisted "prior involvements" has nothing to do with old GN"R.

To those who don't have English as their first language, Axl says there were never any finalized (concrete means something that's not imaginary) plans for a tour, a re-release, sponsors or plans to replace anybody in the band. He says there were ideas, but they were nothing more than just ideas. For example, we can all have ideas about things in life, but to make them into reality, we need to work on them. You can't just say "here's where GN'R should tour". It's not that easy. It takes more work.

Then he says Doc McGhee is not managing Axl or GN'R.




I hope that explained it.


/jarmo

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Jarmo...is English YOUR first language? lol

And btw.....for the record, that fat bastard we're all railing against now claimed he had "Jackie Chan, AND The General".

Last I checked, weren't those two the same songs? lol

The guy is a phony.

And it's typical to hear Americans bitch and moan about there being no tour. You don't hear the rest of the planet complaining do ya?

Hehe...sorry...had to.....

Anyway, lets all go back to our daily lives of enjoying the music, speculating in a positive way, and bugging the shit outta BBF whenever we can think of some inane reason to contact him.

Ok...that last part might just be me.

[LordRazZ]

Very vague. I'm not reading into anything, I just wish Axl would give a more defined answer or statement. I'd like to know his thoughts on all of this.

Maybe it's vague because there's nothing concrete, and Axl doesn't want to lay everything on the table with whats going on in the GnR camp because a) he doesn't want to get our hopes up, b) there really is nothing he can report, and c) it's none of our business what goes on behind closed doors if they don't want us to know

[wadey]

Very vague. I'm not reading into anything, I just wish Axl would give a more defined answer or statement. I'd like to know his thoughts on all of this.

i guess he just said what he felt he needed to say.... short, sharp and to the point.
the more he says the more lines there are to read between i guess!!