Sorum VR Singer 'He's A Guy We've Had Our Eye On, But The Timing Wasn't Right'

[Bodhi]

Who the hell is Jim Root and Mick Thomson. I've never heard their names before this thread.

Millions of Slipknot fans have though. 0_o

And that's fine, but both of them together haven't had .1% impact on the music industry than Ace himself. But of course this band is taken so serious unlike Kiss.

Dude what fucking planet are you on with Ace Frehley over here?  You are acting like he was  Eddie Van Halen or Jimi Hendrix!!  The dude was an ok player, but if you think that Kiss's success wasn't mostly due to their image and merchandising I dont know what to tell you .  I love how you are ripping on Slipknot for their image but defending a band that dresses up like clowns.  Unreal.  I am a Kiss fan, probably a bigger one than you actually, which is the ironic thing here.  But I know their role, I wont be confusing their MUSICAL influence with that of Led Zeppelin or the Stones anytime soon.

I did get a kick out of you rationalizing Kiss whoring themselves out by comparing what they do to how other bands sell merchandise.  Get real.

[Bodhi]

Someone said Slipknot have been around 13 years or so? 13 years into Kiss' career Ace was one of the most influential/well known guitarists. Who the hell is Jim Root and Mick Thomson. I've never heard their names before this thread. Never read of them once on any website or anything. Slipknot are a bunch of nobodies... (with a fast drummer of course!).

hahaha im there with u ace.

saying cause somebody plays guitar fast or drums fast makes the greatest would be like saying cause someone runs fast they are the greatest football player or just cause someone jumps the highest they are the greatest basketball player. NO there are all sorts of intangible qualities.

exactly, One of my favorite guitar players is Slash.  If I felt that way I would not be a fan of Slash, I would be a fan of Malmsteen, Petrucci etc...so D I understand there are intangibles.  I think Kurt Cobain blows Ace Frehley out of the water, and I don't think it is even debatable who the better guitar player is of the two.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

Plus as previously stated, their music is fucking absolute garbage

In your opinion.

You yourself have - quite rightly - used the 'music is subjective' argument before in relation to other bands, so using the 'quality' of any band's music in an argument is pointless. I like Slipknot's music. That's my counter-argument to that one.

[WTTJ_91]

Who the hell is Jim Root and Mick Thomson. I've never heard their names before this thread.

Millions of Slipknot fans have though. 0_o

And that's fine, but both of them together haven't had .1% impact on the music industry than Ace himself. But of course this band is taken so serious unlike Kiss.

Dude what fucking planet are you on with Ace Frehley over here?  You are acting like he was  Eddie Van Halen or Jimi Hendrix!!  The dude was an ok player, but if you think that Kiss's success wasn't mostly due to their image and merchandising I dont know what to tell you .  I love how you are ripping on Slipknot for their image but defending a band that dresses up like clowns.  Unreal.  I am a Kiss fan, probably a bigger one than you actually, which is the ironic thing here.  But I know their role, I wont be confusing their MUSICAL influence with that of Led Zeppelin or the Stones anytime soon.

I did get a kick out of you rationalizing Kiss whoring themselves out by comparing what they do to how other bands sell merchandise.  Get real.

As I Guitar Player I've been reading this thread pretty often and laughing. I don't understand how someone can say that KISS has influenced SO MANY bands, and then turn around and say one of those bands is just RIPPING them off haha. 

[serp616]

wtf is all this talk about Corey joining VR?
i don't see how he can seriously even consider this horrendous idea :S
from my point of view it will be a serious downgrade for Corey, and Corey deserves a helluva lot better than joining ranks with these has beens....
slash can just continue his solo stuff for all i care, and duff can keep up loaded(wich actualyl seems to do good). but for the love of god leave Corey out of this.....he is so much better than friggin VR

[Bodhi]

wtf is all this talk about Corey joining VR?
i don't see how he can seriously even consider this horrendous idea :S
from my point of view it will be a serious downgrade for Corey, and Corey deserves a helluva lot better than joining ranks with these has beens....
slash can just continue his solo stuff for all i care, and duff can keep up loaded(wich actualyl seems to do good). but for the love of god leave Corey out of this.....he is so much better than friggin VR

While I don't agree with everything you said, I kind of get your point.  Corey brings a lot more to VR right now than they bring to him.  I think the idea of playing with his friends who he has looked up to his whole life is quite appealing to him.  But the dude sells out arenas with Slipknot and Stone sour, so he is not hurting for work.  He is certainly much more relevant in today's hard rock scene.  That doesnt mean he is better, but he is more relevant.

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Plus as previously stated, their music is fucking absolute garbage

In your opinion.

You yourself have - quite rightly - used the 'music is subjective' argument before in relation to other bands, so using the 'quality' of any band's music in an argument is pointless. I like Slipknot's music. That's my counter-argument to that one.

yeah but that argument only works when it helps my point.

[D]

wtf is all this talk about Corey joining VR?
i don't see how he can seriously even consider this horrendous idea :S
from my point of view it will be a serious downgrade for Corey, and Corey deserves a helluva lot better than joining ranks with these has beens....
slash can just continue his solo stuff for all i care, and duff can keep up loaded(wich actualyl seems to do good). but for the love of god leave Corey out of this.....he is so much better than friggin VR

While I don't agree with everything you said, I kind of get your point.  Corey brings a lot more to VR right now than they bring to him.  I think the idea of playing with his friends who he has looked up to his whole life is quite appealing to him.  But the dude sells out arenas with Slipknot and Stone sour, so he is not hurting for work.  He is certainly much more relevant in today's hard rock scene.  That doesnt mean he is better, but he is more relevant.

So now Corey  Taylor is more relevant than Slash?

[Genesis]

Nice to see this thread has degenerated into a KISS vs. Slipknot debate. I haven't followed the whole thread, what am I missing? Has grandpa Simmons auditioned for VR as well?

I don't really care for Slipknot either, but it certainly will be interesting to see what Corey Taylor (if that's whom they finally select) as an individual can contribute to VR.

IMO, I have never had much respect for bands that have to resort to pyrotechnics or make up or masks or anything else to sell their music.

[Falcon]

So now Corey  Taylor is more relevant than Slash?

Corey is timely (current) where Slash is timeless (classic) which may indeed equate to relevent on today's musical landscape.  Who knows..

Hell, the same model worked with Weiland and the fellas and VR Mach 1 - they caught lighning in a bottle with that combination.

Not so sure that scenario could play out again with Taylor or anyone else for that matter..

[Bodhi]

So now Corey  Taylor is more relevant than Slash?

Corey is timely (current) where Slash is timeless (classic) which may indeed equate to relevent on today's musical landscape.

Hell, the same model worked with Weiland and the fellas and VR Mach 1..

exactly.  He is younger, and sells more records, thus he is more relevant.  Doesn't mean he is BETTER than Slash,  but more relevant in todays hard rock world.  Every Slipknot record goes platinum, Slash's records don't.  Slipknot is a headlining act at festivals around the world, Slash is on in the middle of the day.  Corey singing for VR would bring a whole bunch of new fans to the band, I don't really see Corey's career benefiting from joining the band, he already has 2 highly successful bands.

[Doofey]

So now Corey  Taylor is more relevant than Slash?

Corey is timely (current) where Slash is timeless (classic) which may indeed equate to relevent on today's musical landscape.

Hell, the same model worked with Weiland and the fellas and VR Mach 1..

exactly.  He is younger, and sells more records, thus he is more relevant.  Doesn't mean he is BETTER than Slash,  but more relevant in todays hard rock world.  Every Slipknot record goes platinum, Slash's records don't.  Slipknot is a headlining act at festivals around the world, Slash is on in the middle of the day.  Corey singing for VR would bring a whole bunch of new fans to the band, I don't really see Corey's career benefiting from joining the band, he already has 2 highly successful bands.

I know I'll get shit for saying this, but I wonder how much of a problem that is? Or will be? Does Slash really want to be #2 in the band?