What do they bring to the table? (The new album)

[Spirit]

Frank is a member of The Compulsions too.

I know he's a member, but I'm not 100% familiar. Does he have any writing credits?

[rebelhipi]

Frank is a member of The Compulsions too.

I know he's a member, but I'm not 100% familiar. Does he have any writing credits?

I dont know, i bought their first e.p. from 2004 on itunes and the credits box is left blank. Didnt find anything on their website either. Most likely its Written by The Compulsions officially.

[Spirit]

Frank is a member of The Compulsions too.

I know he's a member, but I'm not 100% familiar. Does he have any writing credits?

I dont know, i bought their first e.p. from 2004 on itunes and the credits box is left blank. Didnt find anything on their website either. Most likely its Written by The Compulsions officially.

Yeah, I guess they have a deal which splits credits evenly on everyone regardless of the actual writer.

Impossible for us to know then. That goes for Richard as well then, I'm just assuming he has a hand in the writing based on past efforts. The guitar player usually writes more songs than the drummer normally too. Not without exception of course, as we need not look further than Chinese were there's a drummer writing at least three songs (off the top of my head, didn't go back and check).

[rebelhipi]

All true.

Freese on Chinese and Brain in Shacklers and Sorry.

One of the reasons Brain left the band was that he wanted to concentrate on his song writing.

Freese i think has only written songs for his solo albums and GNR. He said he wrote three songs, one of them being Chinese Democracy. The others went to a B- or C-list.

[Sosso]

I wanna have as many songs from Chinese Democracy sessions as possible on the next record/records so I have to choose Axl (of course), Dizzy, Chris and Tommy (and from the former members Tobias, Buckethead, Finck and Mantia).

[Spirit]

If they bring in any outside writers, who would be the best fit you think?

Previously there have been West, Del and Tobias (outsider at the time).

Anyone know if Brain still writes with the band? We know he focuses on composing music nowadays. Same goes for Paul Tobias, anyone know if he's still affiliated with the band? He did have a lot of credits on Chinese, much more than I had though beforehand.

[Spirit]

I wanna have as many songs from Chinese Democracy sessions as possible on the next record/records so I have to choose Axl (of course), Dizzy, Chris and Tommy (and from the former members Tobias, Buckethead, Finck and Mantia).

If these songs see the light of day, I would assume the above mentioned people are the main writing crew. Much like Chinese itself.

[rebelhipi]

If they bring in any outside writers, who would be the best fit you think?

Previously there have been West, Del and Tobias (outsider at the time).

Anyone know if Brain still writes with the band? We know he focuses on composing music nowadays. Same goes for Paul Tobias, anyone know if he's still affiliated with the band? He did have a lot of credits on Chinese, much more than I had though beforehand.

Idoubt that Brain has anything to do with guns nowdays.

No idea about Tobias

[Spirit]

Yeah, I guess Tobias was only in the spotlight for the few live shows he did with Guns. It's like he fell off the face of the earth after that, did he ever have a band of his own?

Jarmo, did you ever get to meet Paul? Was he ever attending any concerts from 2006 and onwards?

[Sosso]

If they bring in any outside writers, who would be the best fit you think?

Pete Scaturro and Marco Beltrami

[Spirit]

Listening to One Man Mutiny (the song). Is this something you guys could hear as a Guns song? Tommy's guitar and vocals, Richard's guitar and Dizzy's piano playing.

Throw Axl into the mix, and it's something similar to Patience. Makes me wish for some stripped down acoustic songs to appear on future releases.

[Spirit]

If they bring in any outside writers, who would be the best fit you think?

Pete Scaturro and Marco Beltrami

Marco, does he do anything else than orchestration?

As for Pete. Anyone know what parts he wrote on Shacklers and Sorry?

[Sosso]

Marco Beltrami about his work with GN'R:
http://ign.com/articles/2003/07/18/more-with-marco

On one song I actually wrote a guitar part, but they pretty much had the band tracks down and then I added orchestral stuff on top of it.

A song called "Seven," which is the one that I did the most work on, I actually did some writing on.

[Spirit]

Link doesn't work.

Could you copy/paste the article?

[Sosso]

 It should work now. I have quoted the most relevant parts.

[Spirit]

Thanks!

(still can't access the site though..)

[Sosso]

Thanks!

(still can't access the site though..)

Here is the whole interview:

IGN: When you go to the movies, do you key into other composer's music and subsequently find yourself saying "I would have done this or that"? Or are you able to disassociate yourself from that?
Marco Beltrami: Well, no, I can never disassociate myself from it, but I can enjoy the movie still. If it's a real bad score, then it can ruin a movie for me or at least it will draw a lot of my attention to the score. I sort of enjoy being able to hear what other composers are doing and how they might score something differently than me. I enjoy that part.
IGN: Now what about being labeled as a genre composer, if such a thing exists? I mean you've made a name for yourself via scoring mostly horror films and thrillers with horrific undertones.
Marco Beltrami: I think it's okay for now. I mean I haven't been doing this that long and the fact is that most of the movies that I've done that have been a success have been, I guess sort of genre type movies. But I still feel like I have a lot to say in other areas and will have plenty of opportunities to do that. I'm not really worried with the way my career seems to be going, which is in a forward moving direction. So I think there's time for everything.
IGN: What was it like working with Marilyn Manson on the Resident Evil score?
Marco Beltrami: It was great. He had really great ideas; he approached it a little bit different from me coming from a different background. We'd meet once or twice a week, either at his studio or my studio and play each other what we'd been working on. It really worked out well. I was amazed at how continuous the score felt. It felt like it was one score rather than two different composers working on a score. I think it was a good collaboration and I look forward to doing it again sometime.
IGN: Meaning working with Marilyn again or with other rock musicians in general?
Marco Beltrami: Yeah, I would work with him again. There's Resident Evil 2 but I think they need an English composer for that. So maybe on a different project. I think it would be fun. He's got a lot of great ideas and approaches music [differently]. His sense of sound and creating, mixing the sort of sound and music worlds is really cool. I definitely learned stuff for him and think it would be a good experience again.
IGN: Since we're talking about rock musicians, what was the deal with you arranging some orchestral sections for the impending Guns N Roses album?
Marco Beltrami: That was sort of just work for hire. I guess they'd heard some of my orchestral music of mine. I met with Axl and he played me these songs, asked me my ideas about them, and I told him what I thought they needed. They gave me four songs to orchestrate. A couple of them I did more than orchestrating, I actually wrote some melodies and stuff. It was a fun project. I really enjoyed it. The music was eclectic and at the time that I was doing it there were no lyrics on the songs that I was working on. People ask me about the album and I really have no idea about the release. I thought it was coming out last September. I'm the wrong person to ask about that.
IGN: He came to you with the tracks then, so you weren't ever in the studio with the musicians or anything like that
Marco Beltrami: No, they had finished tracks. On one song I actually wrote a guitar part, but they pretty much had the band tracks down and then I added orchestral stuff on top of it.
IGN: What songs were they, by chance?
Marco Beltrami: A song called "Seven," which is the one that I did the most work on, I actually did some writing on. There was one called "Thyme," one called "The General," one called "Leave Me Alone."
IGN: How was that as an experience? Do you have any future plans to work with more rock musicians or is it more like you'll take it as it comes?
Marco Beltrami: I enjoyed it quite a bit. It was different than doing film music, but it was a lot of fun. I would probably do it again. It would probably be more fun at some point, to do it as a more collaborative affair, starting more from scratch, working and writing stuff [together]. But it was definitely fun.
IGN: Plus it shows that you're not limited to just film work.
Marco Beltrami: Oh, no, not at all. In fact I have plans for other projects as well, some operatic stuff and some concert stuff, and I like writing songs, too. To me music is music and it's not limited by the medium, it just encompasses everything.

[Spirit]

He did stuff on SOD, TWAT, Madagascar and Prostitute as well, so seems like he's worked on at least 8 songs in total.

I gotta say, when listening to the orchestral tracks of those songs, they're really good.

[jarmo]

Jarmo, did you ever get to meet Paul? Was he ever attending any concerts from 2006 and onwards?

Not that I remember....



/jarmo

[Sosso]

He did stuff on SOD, TWAT, Madagascar and Prostitute as well, so seems like he's worked on at least 8 songs in total.

I gotta say, when listening to the orchestral tracks of those songs, they're really good.

And he has only named songs that weren't included on CD. What do you think about that?