Duff McKagan Says It Was 'Great' Playing With Axl Rose And Guns N' Roses

[zombux]

it's more about people being excited, expecting something that can never happen. and if they just can't understand it, then some harsh words can come

[jarmo]

Everybody knew what certain people would "see" in this event.

The fact remains, those signs weren't there.

But these people just keep going on and on about it. Year after year..... After year....




/jarmo

[richiegunz70]

I really think this band is awesome as is and see no need for a reunion.The only thing I would like is more songs from there Illusions catalogue and a new album but the band is perfect as is. Of course just my opinion.

[Slash_N_Roses]

Why is it that just because some of us are excited and hold hope for a possible reunion that it is trashing the current lineup? Sure these other players axl has now are great but the reason why GNR is still sought after all these years is because of the songs and mystique that was created with the original 5.

I find it funny how mentioning Duff's name on this side of the message board got u a deleted post, now because Axl sits and has dinner with him he is the greatest bassist alive again...

[jarmo]

I find it funny how mentioning Duff's name on this side of the message board got u a deleted post, now because Axl sits and has dinner with him he is the greatest bassist alive again...

I find it funny how people don't understand how sections work....




/jarmo

[Slash_N_Roses]

So its ok to talk about former members as long as they are having dinner with a current member, gotcha 

[jarmo]

So its ok to talk about former members as long as they are having dinner with a current member, gotcha 

This is less about a meal and more about an actual guest spot at a GN'R show.

But if you wanna focus on the food, go ahead....




/jarmo

[Ismellbetterthanyou]

So its ok to talk about former members as long as they are having dinner with a current member, gotcha 

Best post ever.







Just kidding...

[FunkyMonkey]

DUFF MCKAGAN - London, Axl and Continued 'Patience'

Thursday, October 28, 2010

In his latest blog for Seattle Weekly, former GUNS N' ROSES bassist DUFF MCKAGAN discusses his recent on stage reunion with AXL ROSE.

"Two weeks ago, I flew off to London for a week's worth of non-music-related business. Mere hours after landing at Heathrow I found myself onstage with a friend that I have been to hell and back with, and lived to tell the tale. Axl and I just happened to be in hotel rooms next to each other. Unexpected? Oh, fuck yes.

Sometimes, though, it takes a serendipitous moment like this to put some important things into perspective. I for one was glad we were sort of thrown into meeting. I hope he was, too, for the sake of the pounds of flesh that we shed in the struggle and fray.

Mostly we laughed, and that was indeed great.

That same night, I found myself onstage playing 'Patience' in front of 14,000 people at the 02 Arena. To put it lightly, this is not what I had expected when I boarded my flight the night before for my business trip. Crazy shit.

This chance meeting gave me pause for thought and reflection. Many of you have asked me to write about this gig and our meeting. Other magazines and whatnot have tried to contact me for a 'statement'. Really? A STATEMENT? I'll state this: Trust is built on foundations of granite. Trust is not built when a late-breaking story can prompt you to gossip.

I did an interview for our local rock station, KISW, about a week after the gig. They have started to play a new LOADED song in preparation for our halftime performance at the November 7th Seahawks game as part of Veterans Appreciation Day. The song, 'Fight On', was written by Loaded as a nod to our fallen and fighting young men and women. I was doing promo for the gig and the song (profits from the download will go to our Puget Sound VA HealthCare System). The conversation on BJ Shea's Morning Show naturally took a turn from 'Fight On' to my participation onstage with Axl. I've been on BJ's show enough times to know that they wouldn't ask me anything dumb or be otherwise rude or untoward. They let me say my piece, and that was it."

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2010/10/london_axl_and_continued_patie.php#more

[LIGuns]

Duff seems to be a class act....Would be cool for an Axl guest appearence on the new Loaded album..

[SirTed]

Duff seems to be a class act....Would be cool for an Axl guest appearence on the new Loaded album..

^^word.

[Gunner80]

I was freaking jumping with joy when I found out Duff was playing with Axl. I know there is never going to be a reunion but all the same, from someone who's been following the band sense 1988 it was pretty amazing.

[Halo69]

So its ok to talk about former members as long as they are having dinner with a current member, gotcha 

This is less about a meal and more about an actual guest spot at a GN'R show.

But if you wanna focus on the food, go ahead....




/jarmo

The food is where the money is at 

Roast beef with potatoes, it must be yummy to have that every night hahaha

[Lord Kayoss]

Reunion, smeunion, just come to the U S o' A!!

yes... what you said 

+1

[Buddha_Master]

Reunion, smeunion, just come to the U S o' A!!

yes... what you said 

+1

word. Having said that, I would take a new album as consolation though.

[jarmo]

Please stop posting that "+1" shit.

It falls under the "I agree" rule (which actually is words not just a symbol and a number).

I don't give a fuck if other forums consider "+1" to be part of an interesting conversation.

We don't.


So please stop that right now.




/jarmo

[Bridge]

A part of me feels he betrayed all of us. He chose his side. He could have always been down with Axl and chose to stand by him and Dizzy but, he didn't. He has an album called Believe in Me, but, he didn't believe in Axl.

Here we have someone else who is afflicted by the most vile, wretched disease known to man: the sickness known as entitlement.

Duff betrayed you?  Explain to me in rational terms -- and please note the way I worded that -- what the fuck does Duff owe you?  Why were you ever entitled to his presence in GNR?

Let me explain this, if you spent your money on a GNR CD, you're entitled to it.  If you spent your money on a GNR concert ticket, you're entitled to a show.  But it does NOT entitle you to Duff's life or soul.  He owes you NOTHING.

Yeah, that?s right.  Duff chose his side.  Newsflash: it?s HIS life.  NOT YOURS.

. He will never have his Chinese Democracy and he will have to live with that.

So you believe Duff's life and happiness are less important than doing some fucking album that YOU like?  Yeah, he could've forsaken everything else in his life to give you what YOU feel YOU should be getting from him.

You believe that Duff is less of a man than Axl because he didn?t do Chinese Democracy, as if doing a materialistic album is more important than all the things in life that obviously make Duff very happy: his bands, his music, and his children.  Your priorities are ass backwards.  You retain a sense of infantile betrayal with the frivolous belief that Duff owes you something.  And you will have to live with that -- and that's gotta be hard, a lot harder than anything Duff has to live with.  Just by reading this one post of yours, I'd be willing to bet that Duff is much happier, fulfilled, and peaceful than you are.

But by all means, go ahead and believe that Axl Rose and Chinese Democracy are the epitome of fulfillment in someone's life.  That seems to be what's giving you a reason to continue...

Hopefully sometime during there (sic) dinner together, he apologized for being a douche.

Hopefully when you met Duff, you apologized for the same thing.

[Buddha_Master]

Bridge Bridge Bridge...

How is the family? I see what you are doing. I am really amazed that you have this whole thing so clearly worked out. I am amazed that someone so balanced and living in such harmony still finds the time during your stay in nirvana to talk to us regular people. You see dude, I gave the disclaimer already when I said "A part of me feels..." Sometimes us regular people have conflicting emotions about things we are passionate about even when it isn't always logical. It's a human trait.

At the time, when I witnessed my favorite band (dude, I was there during the Sunset Street days and I take GN'R seriously. I am an O.G. gunner) disintegrate it hit me really hard. I really don't care if you don't get that. I just know I was glued to every little bit of news I could find, and at that time, it was hard to figure out what was fact from fiction. But as it started getting real and news coming down that one by one these members of GN'R that I grew up with, who's music really got me through so much shit, started up and quitting the band, and quitting on Axl, I got pissed. It may not be logical. Shit dude, as an atheist and a fan of NASA and the universe let me tell you this. The Universe and how it was created isn't logical. It just is.

The difference between Axl and most other musicians making Rock N' Roll, is that Axl is an artist. Sometimes people like to throw the word "Artist" around like how people do the words "Porn Star." Every girl who fucks dudes on film and gets paid for it is suddenly a porn star now. Bullshit. Well, every person who makes music isn't an artist either. Axl Rose is an artist. If that too is something you don't agree with then you know where you can go right? I am a motherfuckin fan, and like the universe, it just is. Chinese Democracy is a masterpiece. Duff without Axl has never come close to creating one and most likely will never again be a part of creating one. It is purely speculation but I would think with all the albums he has made since he quit on GN'R that he would love for his music to be has beloved as Chinese Democracy is too us fans. I don't need to explain to you why CD is such a triumph and success. If you need me too, then you will never get it anyway.

Sometimes Bridge I am an asshole, sometimes I am stupid. You made this personal calling me a douche when you really no nothing about me. Fuck Bridge, maybe I am a douche. Maybe Bridge, that is why I can see it in others like you know, "it takes one to know one"  kind of thing. Have a wonderful day.

[Bridge]

But as it started getting real and news coming down that one by one these members of GN'R that I grew up with, who's music really got me through so much shit, started up and quitting the band, and quitting on Axl, I got pissed. It may not be logical.

What isn't logical to me is your assumption that they all "quit on Axl".  That's certainly one side I suppose, but it seems that since, you were "there in Sunset Strip from the beginning", you should've been more willing to consider all sides of the story instead of just making that assumption.  Just because Axl retained the rights to the GNR name doesn't mean it's as black and white as the way you phrased it.  A lot of people believe Axl separated himself from the rest of the band long before they separated themselves by quitting it.

I don't care how great of an album you think Chinese Democracy is, or what you think of Duff's post-GNR music.  That still doesn't mean Duff owes you anything.  The guy is obviously happy and successful on his own terms.  He obviously doesn't weigh success and happiness by the scale of a fucking album that YOU like, the way that YOU do, and the way that YOU seem to think he should.  It obviously pisses you off, and you got greatly offended that Duff actually went on with his life after GNR, but too bad my friend, because "much like the universe", it is the way it is.

You made this personal calling me a douche when you really no nothing about me. Fuck Bridge, maybe I am a douche. Maybe Bridge, that is why I can see it in others like you know, "it takes one to know one"  kind of thing. Have a wonderful day.

Actually, given the fact that you called Duff a douche when YOU know nothing about HIM (beyond this image you've created for him in your own mind), I was turning that on its ear -- but by all means, consider this to be more personal than it actually is.  I think you summarized it perfectly, you called Duff a douche, so maybe as you pointed out, it takes one to know one.

I will have a wonderful day, thanks.

[Axlative]

Geez, BM! Ever consider that without a drastic change in his life (i.e. quitting Guns) Duff might be DEAD now? How's that for quitting a band? More justified? More acceptable? Fuck no!