MAC VS PC

[Halo69]

I wouldn't say PCs look ugly.

look at this dell adamo, it looks quite good:

http://www.dell.com/us/p/adamo-13/pd

I hate Dell  but yeah that one looks nice!

[PJ]

also depends what are you gonna do with the computer

the macbook is ok if you dont wanna do anything too fancy, is an amazing computer for daily things, the problem with this computer is that if you use heavy programs like adobe CS5 or 3d max you cant expand the RAM memory

the macbook pro  is the one I use, amazing performance and you can expand the ram memory up to 8gbs

for a brief time i used macbook air, is an ok computer it is amazing if you travel or you are bussiness man, for daily and heavy use i wouldnt recommend it, like a week apple upgrade it and is better now they have up to 4gb ram, and two sizes 11" and 13"

 

[Lara]

I have a HP compaq mini (Windows XP) and I have been fighting with a stupid virus for the last couple of days, it's so frustrating I want to crash the damn thing!

That's the thing with PCs, they are so unreliable.
Next week is exams week and I'm screwd without a laptop.

Everyone around me has a Mac and although I have been avoiding them because I like the PCs and Windows OS besides all the shit they come with, I am really considering getting a MacBook right now.

[Mysteron]

Macs have always been better but are overpriced.

[Chief]

did you try doing a system restore to a point before you got the virus?

I have a HP compaq mini (Windows XP) and I have been fighting with a stupid virus for the last couple of days, it's so frustrating I want to crash the damn thing!

That's the thing with PCs, they are so unreliable.
Next week is exams week and I'm screwd without a laptop.

Everyone around me has a Mac and although I have been avoiding them because I like the PCs and Windows OS besides all the shit they come with, I am really considering getting a MacBook right now.

[Genesis]

I have a HP compaq mini (Windows XP) and I have been fighting with a stupid virus for the last couple of days, it's so frustrating I want to crash the damn thing!

That's the thing with PCs, they are so unreliable.
Next week is exams week and I'm screwd without a laptop.

Everyone around me has a Mac and although I have been avoiding them because I like the PCs and Windows OS besides all the shit they come with, I am really considering getting a MacBook right now.

Not to be an asshole, but if you get a virus, it's because you're not using  your PC safely. I haven't used Windows in more than 5 years, but when I used to, I never had a virus problem, even without anti-virus installed. These days, you need anti-virus of course, but if you use your PC safely, you won't get a single virus. Don't browse suspicious sites, download porn / hacks / cracks executables or run weird programs your friends send you and you should be fine. Use the anti-virus to scan every incoming media including USB sticks and such.

Needless to say, if some malware pops up a page saying "Your computer is infected with 2 zillion viruses! Click here to clean!", don't do that. Just follow a few basic safe computer usage practices and you'll be fine.

[svdv22]

Ok. So if I want to download illegal hardcore porn I shouldn't buy a pc?
What's that for bullshit.

A computer needs to be safe. Of course, you shouldn't 'invite' viruses but I'm sure Lara didn't do anything she thought would be suspicious.

And the things which are so obvious to you aren't as obvious to someone else. I've seen it with my own eyes. Those XP lookalike pop-ups where they want you to think it's Windows telling you shit but it's just a website.

Don't try to make the computer manufacture's problem the end user's problem. If you want to, fine, go ahead and buy Windows, any version.

[PJ]

I have a HP compaq mini (Windows XP) and I have been fighting with a stupid virus for the last couple of days, it's so frustrating I want to crash the damn thing!

That's the thing with PCs, they are so unreliable.
Next week is exams week and I'm screwd without a laptop.

Everyone around me has a Mac and although I have been avoiding them because I like the PCs and Windows OS besides all the shit they come with, I am really considering getting a MacBook right now.

Not to be an asshole, but if you get a virus, it's because you're not using  your PC safely. I haven't used Windows in more than 5 years, but when I used to, I never had a virus problem, even without anti-virus installed. These days, you need anti-virus of course, but if you use your PC safely, you won't get a single virus. Don't browse suspicious sites, download porn / hacks / cracks executables or run weird programs your friends send you and you should be fine. Use the anti-virus to scan every incoming media including USB sticks and such.

Needless to say, if some malware pops up a page saying "Your computer is infected with 2 zillion viruses! Click here to clean!", don't do that. Just follow a few basic safe computer usage practices and you'll be fine.

dont you think is easier to get a computer thats doesnt get virus at all?

[Genesis]

Ok. So if I want to download illegal hardcore porn I shouldn't buy a pc?
What's that for bullshit.

*Cough* Dude, what you do in your spare time is none of my business.
Yes, by all means buy a Mac if you want to watch illegal hardcore porno.

Actually, joking aside, porn video files are obviously okay, I meant the executables that advertise for free porn and such if you download them.

A computer needs to be safe. Of course, you shouldn't 'invite' viruses but I'm sure Lara didn't do anything she thought would be suspicious.
And the things which are so obvious to you aren't as obvious to someone else. I've seen it with my own eyes. Those XP lookalike pop-ups where they want you to think it's Windows telling you shit but it's just a website.
Don't try to make the computer manufacture's problem the end user's problem. If you want to, fine, go ahead and buy Windows, any version.

I agree the average user wouldn't know about these, but that should change. Safe browsing (even from a personal info POV) is something everyone should learn and blaming the manufacturer is ridiculous.

If you have an unsafe driver on the roads, do you blame the car manufacturer as well? Ultimately, it's up to you to drive safely and responsibly. Same principle.

dont you think is easier to get a computer thats doesnt get virus at all?

Spending a lot of extra money and sacrificing functionality to prevent a problem that's easily avoidable in the first place is a bit paranoid, IMO.

[Lara]

I have a HP compaq mini (Windows XP) and I have been fighting with a stupid virus for the last couple of days, it's so frustrating I want to crash the damn thing!

That's the thing with PCs, they are so unreliable.
Next week is exams week and I'm screwd without a laptop.

Everyone around me has a Mac and although I have been avoiding them because I like the PCs and Windows OS besides all the shit they come with, I am really considering getting a MacBook right now.

Not to be an asshole, but if you get a virus, it's because you're not using  your PC safely. I haven't used Windows in more than 5 years, but when I used to, I never had a virus problem, even without anti-virus installed. These days, you need anti-virus of course, but if you use your PC safely, you won't get a single virus. Don't browse suspicious sites, download porn / hacks / cracks executables or run weird programs your friends send you and you should be fine. Use the anti-virus to scan every incoming media including USB sticks and such.

Needless to say, if some malware pops up a page saying "Your computer is infected with 2 zillion viruses! Click here to clean!", don't do that. Just follow a few basic safe computer usage practices and you'll be fine.

Thank you for the advice, but I was already doing all of the things you mentioned.
I'm not a newbie and I know a thing or two about computers.
I've been using Windows for more than 10 years and I only had virus twice.
The thing is that W are most vulnerable to viruses.
I have a Mac now, let's see how this will go. 

[svdv22]

Ok. So if I want to download illegal hardcore porn I shouldn't buy a pc?
What's that for bullshit.

*Cough* Dude, what you do in your spare time is none of my business.
Yes, by all means buy a Mac if you want to watch illegal hardcore porno.

Actually, joking aside, porn video files are obviously okay, I meant the executables that advertise for free porn and such if you download them.

A computer needs to be safe. Of course, you shouldn't 'invite' viruses but I'm sure Lara didn't do anything she thought would be suspicious.
And the things which are so obvious to you aren't as obvious to someone else. I've seen it with my own eyes. Those XP lookalike pop-ups where they want you to think it's Windows telling you shit but it's just a website.
Don't try to make the computer manufacture's problem the end user's problem. If you want to, fine, go ahead and buy Windows, any version.

I agree the average user wouldn't know about these, but that should change. Safe browsing (even from a personal info POV) is something everyone should learn and blaming the manufacturer is ridiculous.

If you have an unsafe driver on the roads, do you blame the car manufacturer as well? Ultimately, it's up to you to drive safely and responsibly. Same principle.

dont you think is easier to get a computer thats doesnt get virus at all?

Spending a lot of extra money and sacrificing functionality to prevent a problem that's easily avoidable in the first place is a bit paranoid, IMO.

I agree with you to a certain degree. When I used Windows I never had a virusscanner and never had a virus neither. However the manufacturer should deliver a as safe as possible computer. And it could be a lot safer - look at the mac Is it still the drivers fault when he tries to drive the car save but was delivered a car with no brakes?

[Genesis]

Most manufacturers ship with anti virus, but I prefer they not install their bloat ware on new PCs. The best option is to format a new system with your copy of the OS straight away. At least PC manufacturers do this. Apple would never admit there are security issues / worms for Macs, so they will never come out with a anti virus product of their own. Sophos is offering free anti virus for the Mac.

[svdv22]

There's no need to. If you can name 3 trojans/viruses/whatever for mac, than that's a lot.
And Microsoft doesn't admit their PC is unsafe either. Which manufacturer is going to bitch about it's own product?

[Halo69]

Macs have always been better but are overpriced.

I think this is somewhat true! I mean recent Macs have always been better, but when Apple was going down the gutter in the mid 90s i think Billy boy had crushed them.... at that time PC's were better.

The MAC regain its space though a couple years back!

Anyways i bought a Macbook Pro 2.4 13 inches, im gonna have it delivered on Thursday! So on Thursday ill let you all know what i think

[Chief]

just curious, how much did you pay for it?

[Halo69]

1150 euros

Unfortunately they convert 1150 dollars (the real price) to 1150 euros which is not really the same thing... but Apple does that anyways...

1150 dollars is 875 euros... so basically im paying about 300 euros more, because Apple acts smart ass in their business... its worth it though so i bought it anyways

[Bodhi]

How is MAC vs PC even a conversation in 2010?

[Halo69]

How is MAC vs PC even a conversation in 2010?

Whats so wrong with some guys talkin about the positives and negatives of each computers?

[Bodhi]

How is MAC vs PC even a conversation in 2010?

Whats so wrong with some guys talkin about the positives and negatives of each computers?

nothing at all, i was just saying MAC is so far ahead in this its not even a contest anymore.  MAC's have no negatives other than the price, but you get what you pay for.

[Chief]

all the VS talk aside, i gotta say that is pretty retarded of them to do that!!!!
hope you enjoy it!

1150 euros

Unfortunately they convert 1150 dollars (the real price) to 1150 euros which is not really the same thing... but Apple does that anyways...

1150 dollars is 875 euros... so basically im paying about 300 euros more, because Apple acts smart ass in their business... its worth it though so i bought it anyways