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« Reply #420 on: September 04, 2010, 01:10:55 PM »

falungong69 really seems to have it in for the Irish. Shocked

Well, they could have murdered my hero the other night.

Are you for real falungong69?? He could have been murdered? What the fuck?? Your talking shite rant
 
A few idiots threw bottles on stage. None of which hit Axl or any of the other band members. Dont get me wrong I'am not making excuses for these idiots. But you last statement is just stupid.

Yes, there were a few drunk pricks who threw bottles. How do you know they were Irish, there were lots of foreigners there too.

Well played sir!!! A sensible post at last!!!
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« Reply #421 on: September 04, 2010, 01:18:28 PM »

If it's something like announcing that the curfew has been lifted then I can see someone making an announcement beforehand.

That being said, IMO, any other explanation/apology/excuse is only going to incite the crowd even more.  Anyone who would attempt to do that should come out wearing a shirt with a target on it.

Any "fan" who goes to a show and says they don't know the deal is a liar and is probably pissing into a bottle as they're lying about it. 

I'd bet that before any show the crowd is "restless" waiting during the changeover/whatever.  As long as things don't get out-of-hand where someone could get injured, I don't see what the big deal is.  (and if things do start to get out-of-hand, security should take care of those assholes before the band hits the stage) 

Isn't booing the opening acts and the negative chants before the main attraction all part of the concert going experience?  It's all just the pent up anticipation and excitement.

People enjoy venting.  Let it be. 
99.9% of the time, once Axl hits that first note, the booing and negative chants turn immediately in cheering!!! headbanger



Things like this Dublin incident are the exception not the rule.

   
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« Reply #422 on: September 04, 2010, 01:19:18 PM »

at this point you know there are just some pricks who go and intentionally try to cause a scene because they know it will get press. the fact of the matter is all venues MUST add a hell of a lot more security when it comes to a GNR show and the crowd should maybe be pushed back 20-30 feet. sucks for us who love to be right up front, but id rather see an amazing GNR concert than go home seing a song and a half.
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« Reply #423 on: September 04, 2010, 01:31:39 PM »

In my honest opinion this whole incident could have been avoided if either Axl after the first song or the promoter before GNR came on stage said listen folks were a little bit late sorry, but the curfew has been lifted, dont worry, GNR are going to rock this place. Thats all it would have took. I think alot of people in the crowd thought they were only going to get a half hour show because of the curfew and were just pissed off. No excuse for throwing bottles as I said. But it would have stopped what happened in my opinion. I knew GNR would be late like all life long GNR fans, but not everbody there knew that, not the casual fans.
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« Reply #424 on: September 04, 2010, 01:36:52 PM »

If it's something like announcing that the curfew has been lifted then I can see someone making an announcement beforehand.

That being said, IMO, any other explanation/apology/excuse is only going to incite the crowd even more.  Anyone who would attempt to do that should come out wearing a shirt with a target on it.

Any "fan" who goes to a show and says they don't know the deal is a liar and is probably pissing into a bottle as they're lying about it. 

I'd bet that before any show the crowd is "restless" waiting during the changeover/whatever.  As long as things don't get out-of-hand where someone could get injured, I don't see what the big deal is.  (and if things do start to get out-of-hand, security should take care of those assholes before the band hits the stage) 

Isn't booing the opening acts and the negative chants before the main attraction all part of the concert going experience?  It's all just the pent up anticipation and excitement.

People enjoy venting.  Let it be. 
99.9% of the time, once Axl hits that first note, the booing and negative chants turn immediately in cheering!!! headbanger



Things like this Dublin incident are the exception not the rule.

   

The problem was though, The 02 in Dublin always had a strict 11pm no exceptions policy. they even turned the house lights up on Pearl Jam not too far back. So the crowd had no idea that the curfew was waived.
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« Reply #425 on: September 04, 2010, 01:40:23 PM »

Hey dont worry GnR, apparently Dublin likes to throw shit at anyone, really shows how cowardly some regions treat people. Its as if they went to see these people solely to harass them. This is an article I found on Yahoo about shoe and eggs! being thrown at former PM Tony Blair. Yet he will not get an ounce of negative press over it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100904/ap_on_re_eu/eu_ireland_blair

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« Reply #426 on: September 04, 2010, 01:43:07 PM »

The problem was though, The 02 in Dublin always had a strict 11pm no exceptions policy. they even turned the house lights up on Pearl Jam not too far back. So the crowd had no idea that the curfew was waived.

What I said was that they should have announced that the curfew was lifted.

If it's something like announcing that the curfew has been lifted then I can see someone making an announcement beforehand.

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« Reply #427 on: September 04, 2010, 01:50:01 PM »

ive been saying it also for days and no one seemed to really agree. so glad u share the same feeling!


here is that Pearl Jam vid

as soon as "Alive" is over, houselights are turned on:

Eddie does sort of a mock sit in. LOL!

so yeah, the guy who posted this vid and the explanation named Outlaw Pete at GNRevo basically said how once it got after 10.. thecrowd started booing thinking the plug was gonna be pulled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dgmkRZNUUM
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« Reply #428 on: September 04, 2010, 02:23:02 PM »

falungong69 really seems to have it in for the Irish. Shocked

Well, they could have murdered my hero the other night.

Are you for real falungong69?? He could have been murdered? What the fuck?? Your talking shite rant
 
A few idiots threw bottles on stage. None of which hit Axl or any of the other band members. Dont get me wrong I'am not making excuses for these idiots. But you last statement is just stupid.

Yes, there were a few drunk pricks who threw bottles. How do you know they were Irish, there were lots of foreigners there too.

Are you saying it's impossible to die from having someone hurl heavy glass directly at your head?  I don't think even the most delusional hater would suggest that.  So if it's possible to  be killed, then it's something that needs to be considered.  Not only for Axl's safety, but the safety of the band, their crew and families. 

And just because the bottles didn't actually hit anyone on stage doesn't excuse it.  If someone committed a drive-by shooting in your neighborhood and riddled your house with bullets, would you think it was okay just as long as nobody got hit?  Don't be so ridiculous in your anti-Axl sentiments that you can't even admit the honest truth of a situation.

I will admit that you're right about whether or not we're certain it was Irish people throwing the bottles.  I mean, we know that the place was in Ireland and that the crowd was overwhelmingly Irish.  And we know that many Irish people have drinking problems and there's a history of violence associated with the culture.  But you're right.  For all we know, the three people who threw bottles got on a train from India just to try and disgrace the fine Irish name.
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« Reply #429 on: September 04, 2010, 02:31:34 PM »

Plastic Bottles were thrown. woulda hurt like hell. no way it causes death however.
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« Reply #430 on: September 04, 2010, 02:39:04 PM »

Plastic Bottles were thrown. woulda hurt like hell. no way it causes death however.

According to you, it wasn't glass.  According to others, it was. 

But if it was plastic, it's good to know that you're totally fine with the band being "hurt like hell."  As long as you get your kicks, right?

Jesus, it's a wonder Axl even takes the stage at all with fans like you.
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« Reply #431 on: September 04, 2010, 03:02:56 PM »

ive been saying it also for days and no one seemed to really agree. so glad u share the same feeling!


here is that Pearl Jam vid

as soon as "Alive" is over, houselights are turned on:

Eddie does sort of a mock sit in. LOL!

so yeah, the guy who posted this vid and the explanation named Outlaw Pete at GNRevo basically said how once it got after 10.. thecrowd started booing thinking the plug was gonna be pulled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dgmkRZNUUM
Pearl Jam did the same thing in Hartford when I saw them this year.  I'm not sure whether that's part of their act or if it's defying curfew.  But it certainly wasn't a one time occurrence. 
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« Reply #432 on: September 04, 2010, 03:19:39 PM »

it seems open season on Axl at the moment, say one of the bottles( plastic or not) had hit the kid one of the board members took and Axl had carried on he`d have  been blamed  for not stopping the show, the fact is it`s not just his and the bands safety it`s the audience`s as well it`s everyone's responsibility to look out for each other, who wants to be near someone who wants to spoil it for everyone else lets help them to the exit ok
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« Reply #433 on: September 04, 2010, 03:38:04 PM »

falungong69 really seems to have it in for the Irish. Shocked

Well, they could have murdered my hero the other night.

Are you for real falungong69?? He could have been murdered? What the fuck?? Your talking shite rant
 
A few idiots threw bottles on stage. None of which hit Axl or any of the other band members. Dont get me wrong I'am not making excuses for these idiots. But you last statement is just stupid.

Yes, there were a few drunk pricks who threw bottles. How do you know they were Irish, there were lots of foreigners there too.

Bullshit, the bottles hit him. I was front row centre and when he got hit I turned to my friend and said "Woooow... Thats gotta hurt" a couple seconds later he cut jungle
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« Reply #434 on: September 04, 2010, 03:48:23 PM »

Plastic Bottles were thrown. woulda hurt like hell. no way it causes death however.

According to you, it wasn't glass.  According to others, it was. 

But if it was plastic, it's good to know that you're totally fine with the band being "hurt like hell."  As long as you get your kicks, right?

Jesus, it's a wonder Axl even takes the stage at all with fans like you.

dude are u mental? Where did i say it was ok for them to throw anything? kindly show me please. but u are being ridiculous.
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« Reply #435 on: September 04, 2010, 06:52:15 PM »

Look there was a load of knobheads there, a girl behind me was shouting, giving out that she had gotten her hair done and giving out cos she had to stand so long and she kept going on and on. I was like, 'go home if you want to then'. As the cunts were booing I was saying shut the fuck up, let's all enjoy this. It wasn't exactly a rough crowd
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« Reply #436 on: September 05, 2010, 11:33:54 AM »

I got hit on top of the head with a glass beer mug at the Adler's Appetite concert in the Seattle area at least 6 times by a guy who was old enough to know better. Some people just care about themselves. It was really annoying, so I can imagine how infuriating it is for the band who is trying to concentrate and put on a good show. I was irritated  in Las Vegas when people were throwing cups on the stageat the last GNr show at the Joint. Now I know why you can't take bottles into the Allstate Arena or the United Center.
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