Guns N' Roses - Dublin, Ireland Sept. 1st 2010

[zombux]

"58 Year Old Former Guns N' Roses Frontman Reportedly Steals Cure for Cancer from True GNR Axe Man Slash." ...bastards.

FORMER frontman? jesus, GNR have always had the SAME frontman, for 25 years already! "FORMER FRONTMAN" they say

[jacdaniel]

cool interview by Dizzy, what's your source though?

yeah, cool inteview.. I guess the original source was in Deutsch, as it was rather difficultto me to understand some periods wich appear to have some words missing.

i stole it from another forum 
Switzerland`s Blick tabloid is apparently the source.

[D]

sorry was talking about in general not this particular show. Axl likes to play late. That is how he has always been. I don't think it is a set change etc. i mean why not have Danko go on at 7? if curfew is 11, why is the opening act starting at 8pm?
I just don't like the apologist. Axl likes playing late, leave it at that. That is ok, if thats what he does, thats what he does but let's don't act like GNR have been late since the late 80's cause of changeover time.

As far as the coming back onstage..who knows? sounds weird the media saying he wasn't "allowed" to leave? WTF, did they chain the doors shut?

The standing in one spot is definitely interesting....... made for some great vocals though.. don't know how happy I'd be if id spent 100 bucks on it though.

[jarmo]

i mean why not have Danko go on at 7? if curfew is 11, why is the opening act starting at 8pm?

Ok. Try to follow my though here, please.

Doors open before 7PM. People rush in.

Now, let's say we know that the headliner isn't gonna be on at 9PM sharp.

Do you:

A: Send out the opening act for 45-60 minutes at 7PM and have an empty stage for two hours.

or

B: The opening act starts a little later so the break in between bands is shorter.


Many who claim they waited so and so long are actually thinking the way you are. That the opening act was done around 8PM. It was not the case.


I don't even know what you're discussing anymore. It seems like you throw in random stuff that has nothing or very little to do with the show in question or reality.

If you have accepted the fact that Axl goes on when he's ready to give 100% and deliver, what else do you need to know? Minute by minute breakdown of his every move on a show day? 



/jarmo

[FunkyMonkey]

cool interview by Dizzy, what's your source though?

yeah, cool inteview.. I guess the original source was in Deutsch, as it was rather difficultto me to understand some periods wich appear to have some words missing.

Here's the link to the interview. 

http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/musik/koks-und-nutten-sind-total-ueberbewertet-154703

Yeah, the translation is not the best but...

Their front man Axl Rose is also difficult. You are 20 years in the band. How do you keep it with him?

Dizzy Reed: For me there was never a reason to get out. A band is like a marriage when one would be married with a bunch of buddies: As it is said sometimes bite through, and put his ego aside. For I have great respect for Axl talent.

[Ali]

For those, and believe there are plenty of people out there, who feel that no real threat was posed because the bottles being thrown were plastic, please read this account from kennyabis at chinesedemocracy.com:

Here are his words: "Before Guns came on I got hit with a plastic bottle that still had a lot of liquid in it, the corner of the lid caught me right on the crown of my head and it hurt like hell, my vision got blurry and by throat went numb, thankfully it seemed to subside byt the time Guns came onstage. Although after the gig I ended up having a terrible migraine and lost sight in my left eye. Thankfully I managed to sleep through the worst of it on the bus journey home. In conclusion whether they where glass or not they are still feckin dangerous and I can totally understand were Axl was coming from."

So, this "it was only plastic, it can't hurt anybody" line is complete and utter crap.  Look, someone at the Dublin show was hurt as a result of being hit by a plastic bottle. 

Ali

[kyrie]

If doors open at 7, and Danko went on right at 7, they'd be playing to an empty arena. People need time to get in, get drinks, sit down.

[whoareyou]

[markreed]

if you throw shit at the stage, you're a shit who deserves to be thrown off a stage.

[jarmo]

If doors open at 7, and Danko went on right at 7, they'd be playing to an empty arena. People need time to get in, get drinks, sit down.

Very true.

Thanks for reminding me.

Sometimes you wait a while so that the opening band has an audience.




/jarmo

[One.In.A.Million]

I don't understand people trying to find alternate motives as to what went on in Dublin. 

The fact is GN'R rocked the hell out of the first 4 songs, then yet another bottle comes flying onstage. Guns N' Roses go backstage until, people have calmed down and the stage is cleared. Sure Axl was not impressed by the situation and he had every right to be, it's as simple as that.

Axl came out all Guns blazing and was amazing to watch, it was a pleasure to be there.

To all the people moaning about the lateness yet again, and to all those who weren't even there. The stage was being set up all the time, up until GN'R came on. I heard people booing, and there was still a sound engineer setting up Franks drums. As soon as the stage was set, they came on almost instantly, so people really do need to open their eyes. 

So people need to basically stop finding reasons and motives purely to slag off the band. I was there and loved every minute of it, and no matter what, there are always going to be haters trying to spoil the fun. 

[LIGuns]

When they played the club shows in NYC back in 2006, I went to the 1st and 3rD, I missed my trains by minutes..Usually the trains leave every hour but at a certain time it's a 2 hour wait..Both times I had to wait 2 hours all sweaty in a grimy Penn Station...Was it worth it? Hell Yeah!! But I had a friend w/ me that probably wasn't to pleased about getting home at 5:30AM..
"If you were waiting to get laid you wouldn't be complaining."
                                                                         -Axl Rose (paraphrase, sometime in the 90's).

[richwoman]

i waited 5 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!! for him to show up once  and i didn`t feel the need to boo or throw anything young people must like to go to bed real early these days!

[jarmo]

This shit is amusing.

It's obviously not like they tear down the stage and build it up again between the opening act and GN'R!



But you still need to do things.

It's a fact.


Some of you pointing out that the crew were working before the opening act is beside the point.


U2 were 30 minutes late in Helsinki due to technical problems.

Imagine that. Things happen for other bands too.

I bet their crew had also worked before the opening acts went on.



/jarmo

[axlrosegnr]

Gn'R hasn't played most of these places in 4 years. I think some they haven't played since the 90's if at all.....so seriously, what's another hour or two?

[whoareyou]

So long?


Certain people need to understand the whole concept..

Let's say there's 50 minutes between the opening act and GN'R. People will say "Axl was 50 minutes late".

Which is a lie.

Part of that time is needed to prepare the show. Axl, even if he wanted to, can't go on straight after the opening act has been played their last note....




/jarmo

You completley missing my point. I didnt once mention "axl being late"

[jarmo]

I know, I'm just making it clear how things work.

Because it's obvious some people don't know. Or don't wanna know.





/jarmo

[D]

Yeah but how often are U2 late? lets be real about that. and since ok Danko can't play at 7, how about 7:30, that gives people an hour, he plays till 8:30, u got 45 mins for the set up which is 9:15 when GNR took the stage in 2006.


I think people, just like those on message forums over the years get pissed mainly at the lack of communication. a lot of reviews i've read from fans talk about how after Reading, they were concerned that with the 11pm curfew, the show was gonna end early and they were pissed at that.

so with a little communication from either the promoter,axl or whomever, a good part of the crowd wouldn't have been as hostile if they knew the show wasn't ending early. Now of course if some asshole already plans to throw bottles, they are gonna do so anyway, but the majority of the crowd would've been at ease and able to enjoy it knowing the curfew was gonna have no effect.

Pearl Jam fell victim to the curfew a while back and after "alive" the lights got turned on at 11pm and they were basically forced to stop there. so it isn't like the crowd had any idea that this night would be different.

[whoareyou]

Iv seen several shows were bands have fallen victim to the curfew, in particualr foo fighters in hyde park, motorhead over ran.

And it dosent make headlines.

I just think its unfortunte that it happens so oftern to gnr the media/fan backlash will always be great.

[jarmo]

Yeah but how often are U2 late?

I think both the Finnish shows last month started after their scheduled time...

As far as I know, people weren't pissed off about it.

lets be real about that. and since ok Danko can't play at 7, how about 7:30, that gives people an hour, he plays till 8:30, u got 45 mins for the set up which is 9:15 when GNR took the stage in 2006.

 

Aren't you the one saying you understand that Axl doesn't go on until he's ready?

But here you are trying to act like some kind of manager.....




/jarmo