Feeling like shit

[GypsySoul]

Don't get me wrong I am fortunate for what I have in this world but I am guessing you simply didn't have a similar problem as me so it would be hard to explain.

I had a nervous breakdown and was an alcoholic by age 14 so maybe if you use small words you'll be able to explain it to me. 

First, i hate when people say cheer up, it could be worse, u could have cancer or muscular dystrophy or whatever.

maybe it isn't meant that way but its like using someone's even worse situation to feel better about ur own.. i don't like that.

This from the guy who blames his shortcomings on not being diagnosed with depression or bi-polar disorder. 


Here's a clue for the two of you


Volunteering is NOT about making yourself feel better by seeing other people who you think are worse off than you!!!  IMO, 90% of people who find themselves in "those circumstances" have a better appreciation of what life is truly about.

VOLUNTEERING IS ALL ABOUT MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE BY SHARING OUR GIFTS WITH ONE ANOTHER WITH NO OTHER MOTIVE THAN SHARING!!!


And as far as that whole 'psychological disorder' thing goes, Dr. Leary and I have a special message for the two of you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAVoQfoU0dQ

[mrlee]

^
While seeing other people with greater suffering certainly makes one empathise with them.

Self loathing never goes away.

[Jdog0830]

^
While seeing other people with greater suffering certainly makes one empathise with them.

Self loathing never goes away.

That's exactly the point I was trying to make with GypsySoul although it does seem she posts a lot in these threads to simply bust my balls 

Just joking GypsySoul I greatly respect volentering and helping our fellow man.
I guess I am being selfish even by saying it but I am trying to figure out more about myself and my nature.
I never had any intention to make it sound like you never knew pain it's that it's hard for even myself to explain these things.





Joe

[D]

Don't get me wrong I am fortunate for what I have in this world but I am guessing you simply didn't have a similar problem as me so it would be hard to explain.

I had a nervous breakdown and was an alcoholic by age 14 so maybe if you use small words you'll be able to explain it to me. 

First, i hate when people say cheer up, it could be worse, u could have cancer or muscular dystrophy or whatever.

maybe it isn't meant that way but its like using someone's even worse situation to feel better about ur own.. i don't like that.

This from the guy who blames his shortcomings on not being diagnosed with depression or bi-polar disorder. 


Here's a clue for the two of you


Volunteering is NOT about making yourself feel better by seeing other people who you think are worse off than you!!!  IMO, 90% of people who find themselves in "those circumstances" have a better appreciation of what life is truly about.

VOLUNTEERING IS ALL ABOUT MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE BY SHARING OUR GIFTS WITH ONE ANOTHER WITH NO OTHER MOTIVE THAN SHARING!!!


And as far as that whole 'psychological disorder' thing goes, Dr. Leary and I have a special message for the two of you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAVoQfoU0dQ

Short comings? I am a college graduate and i work in Nursing Homes helping people everyday... if someone in my family dies or i have a shitty day, trust me, that doesn't cheer u up.

just sayin u sound ridiculous, bipolar, manic depression, ADHD are REAL medical problems. U can't just say cheer up to someone with BiPolar. Or hey u, concentrate harder.. if u have a chemical deficiency in the brain, that can't be overcome by thinking of someone worse off than u. u have a shitty way of oversimplifying people's problems.

[Jdog0830]

Now D I can relate when your talking about stuff like ADHD because I have that shit and missed out on a lot because of it but also learned a lot because of it.

Just another fight we have to go through throughout our lives. And where I learned to control it mostly on my own through a lot of sheer will power I don't really concider it much of a problem for me anymore thanks to everything my parents did to help me. That's also why I don't want to dissipoint them much like it is with many parent child relationships.





Joe

[Sin Cut]

^
While seeing other people with greater suffering certainly makes one empathise with them.

Self loathing never goes away.

That's exactly the point I was trying to make with GypsySoul although it does seem she posts a lot in these threads to simply bust my balls 

Just joking GypsySoul I greatly respect volentering and helping our fellow man.
I guess I am being selfish even by saying it but I am trying to figure out more about myself and my nature.
I never had any intention to make it sound like you never knew pain it's that it's hard for even myself to explain these things.





Joe

What's up with you and how everyone is busting your balls? 

Don't get me wrong I am fortunate for what I have in this world but I am guessing you simply didn't have a similar problem as me so it would be hard to explain.

I had a nervous breakdown and was an alcoholic by age 14 so maybe if you use small words you'll be able to explain it to me. 

First, i hate when people say cheer up, it could be worse, u could have cancer or muscular dystrophy or whatever.

maybe it isn't meant that way but its like using someone's even worse situation to feel better about ur own.. i don't like that.

This from the guy who blames his shortcomings on not being diagnosed with depression or bi-polar disorder. 


Here's a clue for the two of you


Volunteering is NOT about making yourself feel better by seeing other people who you think are worse off than you!!!  IMO, 90% of people who find themselves in "those circumstances" have a better appreciation of what life is truly about.

VOLUNTEERING IS ALL ABOUT MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE BY SHARING OUR GIFTS WITH ONE ANOTHER WITH NO OTHER MOTIVE THAN SHARING!!!


And as far as that whole 'psychological disorder' thing goes, Dr. Leary and I have a special message for the two of you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAVoQfoU0dQ

Short comings? I am a college graduate and i work in Nursing Homes helping people everyday... if someone in my family dies or i have a shitty day, trust me, that doesn't cheer u up.

just sayin u sound ridiculous, bipolar, manic depression, ADHD are REAL medical problems. U can't just say cheer up to someone with BiPolar. Or hey u, concentrate harder.. if u have a chemical deficiency in the brain, that can't be overcome by thinking of someone worse off than u. u have a shitty way of oversimplifying people's problems.

I agree with D, but I do find it strange how common these are. My opinnion is that things go wrong when I medicate the problem and not the cause.

I've gone through depression myself and looking back to the time I think all the meds just made me worse and the real problem was work and social life related, my boss really drained me with work, I just needed some time and what really was the start for me getting better was when I realized the meds ain't going to make me better if nothing they made me worse, I was in apathy and didn't want to do shit and the circle was ready.

Feeling bad for not getting things done, I remember being too depressed to pay my bills or to see my friends. I even disabled by doorbell and didn't answer the phone.

On my summer vacation at the time I realized that the medication is making things worse and I quit, then I made a list of what I don't like about my life and started to correct it.

Somewhere along the way I got back the old me and frankly without the summer vacation and sick leave I wouldn't have the energy to do this.

And the changes were big, for an example I quit my job which I hated.

[D]

There is a difference though Sin Cut.

like for instance, if a family member dies, that is normal depression, no one should run out and get on Paxil or Zoloft or what  have you..

Serotonin deficiency,however, is real and needs treatment. I've always found proper diet and exercise controls this problem well, but not everyone chooses that route.

If u are just stressed at work,broken hearted, mourning etc. it isn't a hormone deficiency therefore meds wouldn't help and would probably screw u up cause u would have an abundance of the hormone.

[Jdog0830]

Ah I am fucking stupid even when I ask a girl out that I know is single, hot, and even does some of the same things as me  I manage to fuck it up!!!

Ah I got them summer time blues.



Joe

[cotis]

Did you just straight up go up and say lets go out?

Gotta have better game than that.

Ask (insert random name)TONY how he gets all the men in his life...

[Jdog0830]

I tryed to break the ice with a like 2 jokes and it seemed like she was playing along when she told one (saying she hated everyone in our school) so then I asked her "Well if you don't hate this stupid stoner maybe we can hangout sometime?" she said maybe but she said it in the way that said not gonna happen.

And the bitch wonders why she is single??? Ah women are crazy.



Joe

[Jdog0830]

Did you just straight up go up and say lets go out?

Gotta have better game than that.

Ask (insert random name)TONY how he gets all the men in his life...

Ok but if you say whip out her penis I dint think that will work.
 

Dam now I laughed.


Joe

[cotis]

Did you just straight up go up and say lets go out?

Gotta have better game than that.

Ask (insert random name)TONY how he gets all the men in his life...

Ok but if you say whip out her penis I dint think that will work.
 

Dam now I laughed.


Joe

If she has a penis, you are barking up the wrong tree my friend.

[w.axl.rose]

Did you just straight up go up and say lets go out?

Gotta have better game than that.

Ask (insert random name)TONY how he gets all the men in his life...

Ok but if you say whip out her penis I dint think that will work.
 

Dam now I laughed.


Joe

If she has a penis, you are barking up the wrong tree my friend.

hahahahahha

[Jdog0830]

Haha your telling me!!! No but she does seem to get pissed off alot!!!

And basic that was the joke because she doesn't have a dick!!!
  If I fall for a dick girl I hit rock bottom hard!!!
Joe

[Jdog0830]

What should I do though I really like her and I don't want her to think I am a freak or a stalker!!!
Women sure can be crazy!!!



Joe

[nekomex]

What should I do though I really like her and I don't want her to think I am a freak or a stalker!!!
Women sure can be crazy!!!



Joe

keep talking with her and try to hang out, but dont invite her to go out. wait for the proper time, like if she says something about a party or that she wants to see a movie or whatever, then you take the chance .

[Jdog0830]

That sounds like a good plan but I tried that before and the chick thought I was stalking her and I wasn't.

And this girl lives real close by me which is one of the reasons I know her. Last thing I would want is her saying I am a freak and like my little brother hearing that.

Maybe I should wait till collage to even bother trying to get a girl friend.

Joe

[Sin Cut]

Ah I am fucking stupid even when I ask a girl out that I know is single, hot, and even does some of the same things as me  I manage to fuck it up!!!

Ah I got them summer time blues.



Joe

I manage to fuck them.

[Jdog0830]

Well that's nice for you not all of us get laid like you apparently do.



Joe

[Sin Cut]

Well that's nice for you not all of us get laid like you apparently do.



Joe

Really, it ain't hard.

Here's how it usually goes, I go with friends to a club or a pub, wait for a woman to check me out and go to talk (if she isn't fat or plain ugly). We have a few drinks, have a good time and the next morning I wake at her place or she wakes up at mine. I don't remember when was the last time I had to leave empty handed.

We usually first hit some pub and then some nightclub. After I've been on stage (karaoke) there's always girls coming to talk.