Axl Rose Slams Irving Azoff In $5 Million Countersuit

[PJ]

i dont think a reunion would as big as you think...

[bolton]

well reunion woulkd have  great commercial sucess,but on the other hand grn would lost soul...Reunion would be "money" stuff and nothing more
Axl and new guys do right job,and people like it...New gnr have a great commercial success,maybe not like old but these guys know that do right thing

I can not imagine Axl and Slash together on the stage

[Jim Bob]

fuck a bullshit reunion.

can't reunite a band thats already active and touring.

Axl doesn't need anyone other than the guys in the band now.   Stick to your Guns Axl and lets hope this all works out for him and GnR.

[bolton]

fuck a bullshit reunion.

can't reunite a band thats already active and touring.

Axl doesn't need anyone other than the guys in the band now.   Stick to your Guns Axl and lets hope this all works out for him and GnR.

[jacdaniel]

A reunion would be huge if done properly.  and it would make more money than any current tour or album.
i think people are underestimating the potential of a reunion.

[Jim Bob]

A reunion would be huge if done properly.  and it would make more money than any current tour or album.
i think people are underestimating the potential of a reunion.

Axl obviously doesn't pay any mind to it.   The fact that some of you are still discussing this is 2010 is beyond stupid.

[Koskenkorvasieni]

A reunion would be huge if done properly.  and it would make more money than any current tour or album.
i think people are underestimating the potential of a reunion.

Reunions are cool, if done for the right reasons. A reunion just to cash in would be just lame. Axl and Slash can't get along, so why force yourself to a reunion just for the money? That would make me loose respect for the original 5 alltogether...

[jacdaniel]

A reunion would be huge if done properly.  and it would make more money than any current tour or album.
i think people are underestimating the potential of a reunion.

Axl obviously doesn't pay any mind to it.   The fact that some of you are still discussing this is 2010 is beyond stupid.

i don't agree.  people are dicussing it cos Axl is basically admitting his previous management/staff were more interesting in a reunion than promoting the album he spent years working on.

Not to mention that Scott Weiland was always paranoid about a reunion and suggested that it almost happened.  its clearly still an issue that surrounds them all.

I dont want a reunion and i know Axl will never have it, but it seems to be the main motivation of the businessmen and you can't be successful without their backing.

[sky dog]

Axl seems to have done pretty well so far "business" wise so I guess that proves your theory wrong.

[Voodoochild]

A reunion would be huge if done properly.  and it would make more money than any current tour or album.
i think people are underestimating the potential of a reunion.

Reunions are cool, if done for the right reasons. A reunion just to cash in would be just lame. Axl and Slash can't get along, so why force yourself to a reunion just for the money? That would make me loose respect for the original 5 alltogether...

Agree. People would lose respect, it would be like the Sex Pistols reunion. Im sure the same media who always bitch about the lack of original members would also bitch about a cash-in reunion.

[jacdaniel]

Axl seems to have done pretty well so far "business" wise so I guess that proves your theory wrong.

That was awhile back now though. 
CD sold reasonably well enough but it cost a lot to make too.  And there is reports that they've lost money on the current tour.

[Loaded NightraiN]

And there is reports that they've lost money on the current tour.

Could you post said reports?

[cotis]

And there is reports that they've lost money on the current tour.

Could you post said reports?

As per the infamous court document that isn't allowed to be posted here...


Additionally, the Canada concert dates were set up by Azoff intentionally without any planning, marketing or promotions so that the band would lose money. The band lost $700,000 on those dates alone. As a result of Azoff s terrible planning, self-dealing, lies and deception and last minute desertion, the band incurred millions of dollars in losses.

[faldor]

A reunion would be huge if done properly.  and it would make more money than any current tour or album.
i think people are underestimating the potential of a reunion.

I think people are overestimating it.  Greatly!  The world simply isn't waiting with baited breath for a reunion of the AFD/UYI era GNR.  Would it be big?  No doubt, but this isn't Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, or The Beatles like some people make it out to be.  Especially after all that has taken place.

[sleeper]

A reunion would only mean something to die hard fans JMO. But Azoff must think he could have made millions with one. I hope Axl can win this thing. But the asshole he is fighting can keep him tied up in court for years.

[Gracie2006]

Do we really want Slash playing I.R.S or Better?  No!!!! Its like missing a girl you dated 17 years ago. Move on and enjoy the present.

[zombux]

Do we really want Slash playing I.R.S or Better?  No!!!! Its like missing a girl you dated 17 years ago. Move on and enjoy the present.

well said!

[GypsySoul]

A reunion would only mean something to die hard fans JMO.

I would change this to say "A reunion would only mean something to certain die hard fans" but I do agree with what you're saying.

This goes along with my previous statement about the type of new generation of fans (and their $$$) that Dj draws to GNR.

P.S.  And for the record, I'm not saying anything against Ashba being in the band.  On the contrary, I think that having Dj in the band is an excellent move!  Not only is he talented, he also draws in the young goth crowd $$$ and once inside, Axl will have them mesmerized and keep them (as he does us) coming back for more!!!



P.P.S.  azoff is a dickhead     

[Lucky]

A reunion would only mean something to die hard fans JMO.

I would change this to say "A reunion would only mean something to certain die hard fans" but I do agree with what you're saying.

This goes along with my previous statement about the type of new generation of fans (and their $$$) that Dj draws to GNR.

P.S.  And for the record, I'm not saying anything against Ashba being in the band.  On the contrary, I think that having Dj in the band is an excellent move!  Not only is he talented, he also draws in the young goth crowd $$$ and once inside, Axl will have them mesmerized and keep them (as he does us) coming back for more!!!



P.P.S.  azoff is a dickhead    

reunion for me would be disgusting. after all the things they had said about each other, reuniting and acting like they are a band would be an insult to my intelligence.

[veritas55]

A reunion would be huge if done properly.  and it would make more money than any current tour or album.
i think people are underestimating the potential of a reunion.

Promoters (and ex-managers!) seem to think that an "original line-up" reunion would do very big business, especially in the US.
The main reason they salivate at the idea is that nostalgia tours that cater to an older audience can charge very high ticket prices and make lots of money off these so-called VIP packages.  If you think about it, the core GnR fanatic around Appetite's release was, what, a 15 to 18 year-old kid.  That makes him or her a late 30's early 40-ish man/woman today.  That is a great demographic for promoters because people that age tend to have professions, have more disposal income, are are willing to pay $125 - $250 for a ticket, or much more.  So, IF you can get this demographic to go to the shows, you can generate a lot more money per attendee than your typical 15 to 20 year-old.

So, the great potential appeal for a promoter is not just that an "original" line-up sells more tickets (which it would), but, importantly, you can price tickets a lot higher and capture a bigger proportion of VIP / "premium ticket" packages with this older crowd.   That's exactly what makes tours by the reunited Police, Eagles,  Madonna, Stones, etc. so enticing for promoters.  Look at the prices for Roger Waters' tour of The Wall live right now -- the entire floor and much of the lower arena seating is at $200- to-$270 a ticket, and the VIP ticket packages are $500 - $700 a ticket.  And the tickets are selling like hot cakes:  he has already sold out 3 shows in New York (4 total so far),  2 shows sold out in Chicago (with more on sale), 3 in LA (4 total so far), etc.  Why?  Partly because the Pink Floyd audience is an older audience, with a lot more money than the Green Day audience.

But, good for Axl for sticking to his guns (no pun, intended).  There aren't a lot of musicians left in the business who do things based on principles, rather than worshipping the almighty dollar.