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« Reply #600 on: July 22, 2010, 08:19:21 PM »

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Former Yankees manager Ralph Houk dies at 90
Thursday, July 22, 2010

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BOSTON ? Ralph Houk, who guided the powerhouse New York Yankees of the early 1960s to two World Series championships during his 20 years as a big league manager, died Wednesday. He was 90.



Yankees manager Ralph Houk relaxes with a cigar in his office at Yankee Stadium following a 1973 victory in New York. Houk, 90, died Wednesday.
Houk also skippered the Detroit Tigers and the Boston Red Sox in a managerial career that spanned three decades.

Red Sox spokesman Dick Bresciani said Houk's grandson, Scott Slaboden, told the team Houk died at his home in Winter Haven, Fla. Slaboden, who lives in the Boston area, wrote in an e-mail to the team that Houk "died peacefully of natural causes after having a brief illness."

Before reaching the big leagues with the Yankees in 1947, Houk served in the Army in World War II and rose to the rank of major ? a moniker that stuck even when he returned to baseball.

Houk spent parts of eight seasons as a backup catcher for New York, appearing in just 91 games. Former Yankees shortstop Tony Kubek, who played for Houk in the minors and majors with New York, said Houk learned a lot about handling a pitching staff from working with Hall of Famer catchers Yogi Berra and Bill Dickey in the bullpen.



In this March 9, 1961, file photo, Joe DiMaggio, second from right, holds a bat as he talks with, from right, Ralph Houk, Mickey Mantle and Yogi Berra at spring training. DiMaggio donned his uniform again to serve as an aide in spring training. Houk managed the powerhouse Yankees teams of the early 1960s to two World Series championships.
"He had the Yankees' spirit, the Yankees' winning attitude," Kubek told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "He had all the qualities that make a special manager."

Houk managed 3,157 games and won 1,619 with a winning percentage of .514. He followed Casey Stengel as Yankees manager in 1961 and was George Steinbrenner's first manager for New York in 1973. He resigned after one year working for the Boss and moved on to Detroit.

Houk managed the Tigers from 1974-78. His final stint in the dugout came with Boston from 1981-84.

"People forget that before he was a manager, he was a war hero and he was a catcher for a lot of years," Tigers radio analyst Jim Price said. "He was a great guy, I knew him very well, and everyone that played for him loved him."

It's been a tough couple of weeks for the Yankees organization, which has lost three notable figures from its storied history in the last 10 days. Longtime public address announcer Bob Sheppard died on July 11 and iconic owner Steinbrenner passed away two days later.

Houk's best seasons as a manager were his first three in New York. He took over the Yankees in 1961 and behind Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris the team won 109 games and a World Series championship.

The Yankees repeated as champions in 1962 and won the AL pennant in 1963, but were swept by the Los Angeles Dodgers in the World Series.

Houk managed a handful of Hall of Famers in New York, but Kubek said he was an integral part of the team's success.

"Sometimes when you have good players, you can mess it up and he didn't do that," he said. "He didn't overmanage. He was probably, more than a strategist, a handler of men."

Houk moved into the front office after the series loss to the Dodgers, serving as Yankees general manager in 1964 and '65. He returned to managing the Yankees in 1966 and held the job until 1973, but he only had four more winning seasons and never finished better than second place.

The Lawrence, Kan., native had only one winning season with the Tigers, his last in 1978.

"Ralph was a great baseball man who handled his players well and they played hard for him," Tigers Hall of Famer Al Kaline said in a statement released by the team. "He was well respected and a fun guy to be around. I enjoyed playing for him during my last year."

Longtime Braves manager Bobby Cox played for Houk with the Yankees in 1968-69.

"Great guy. Great guy," Cox said Wednesday night after Atlanta lost to San Diego in 12 innings. "Sorry to hear that. I love Ralph. He was just outstanding."

Houk came out of retirement at the age of 61 to become Red Sox manager. He had three winning seasons before retiring for good in 1984, leaving behind the core of a team that would reach the World Series in 1986.

"He was a great players' manager, a real good guy and a tough son of a gun," Dodgers manager Joe Torre said. "I got to know him after his managing days, and he's a great credit to the Yankees, Red Sox and Tigers organizations."

But he'll most be remembered as a Yankee.

"He was just a wonderful guy, loyal to his players," Kubek said. "The Major was just a great person."

Houk is survived by his daughter, Donna Houk Slaboden, his son Robert Houk and four grandchildren and 10 great-grandchildren.
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« Reply #601 on: July 23, 2010, 08:56:12 PM »

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/07/23/cardinals-out-of-dan-haren-hunt-yankees-reportedly-front-runner/

Cardinals Out of Dan Haren Hunt; Yankees Now In Mix

7/23/2010 6:58 PM ET By Ed Price

When the Yankees lost out on acquiring Cliff Lee from the Mariners, general manager Brian Cashman insisted he didn't feel the need to keep shopping for a starting pitcher, indicating Lee was a special case.

But circumstances have changed in the Bronx, with Andy Pettitte going on the disabled list and expected to miss about a month, and the Yankees appear to be back in the market for a high-end starter.

A source told FanHouse the Cardinals are now out of the running for Diamondbacks right-hander Dan Haren, and the Yankees reportedly are heavily involved -- though a source told FanHouse's Steve Phillips there are no front-runners at this point.

A baseball official with knowledge of the Yankees' plans says "nothing is close" with Arizona, but multiple sources said the Diamondbacks seem determined to trade Haren by Monday. His next scheduled start is Tuesday at Philadelphia.

Haren, 29, is 7-8 with a 4.60 ERA -- his worst numbers since his rookie season -- in 21 starts for the Diamondbacks. He does, however, have a track record of success that includes a 3.26 ERA in seven postseason appearances with the A's and Cardinals.

Haren has a limited no-trade clause, but FoxSportsArizona.com reported he cannot veto a trade to either New York team.

FanHouse's Frankie Piliere reports right-hander Ivan Nova could be the key piece moving from New York to Arizona in a Haren deal.
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« Reply #602 on: July 23, 2010, 09:40:25 PM »

CC, Lee, Haren, Hughes, Burnett next year sounds nice.
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« Reply #603 on: July 24, 2010, 05:10:52 PM »

CC, Lee, Haren, Hughes, Burnett next year sounds nice.

It does but, i wouldn't bet against Pettitte coming back again and if he can still pitch like he has this year why not?
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« Reply #604 on: July 24, 2010, 06:34:01 PM »

I also wouldn't get TOO high on Haren.  He's a good pitcher and he'd be an upgrade for most rotations, but he's not exactly having a very good season for the D-backs.  And the transition from the NL to the AL East of all divisions isn't always the easiest to make.  He's obviously not Cliff Lee.
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« Reply #605 on: July 24, 2010, 06:45:19 PM »

A few Yankee related tweets from today.

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Heard this: No conversations today between Arizona and the Yankees. The NYY scoffed at reports that they were in the lead of the Haren negotiations, because they have never been close to completing a deal to this point.

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A-Rod turns 35 on Tuesday. Most HR before 35th birthday: A-Rod 599, Sosa 539, Foxx 527, Ruth 516, Mays 512, Aaron 510, Griffey 501.

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#Yankees starters who didn't make All-Star Game: 15-17, 4.81 ERA.

And one on the Sox

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Have confirmed CBSSports.com report that #Tigers, with Brandon Inge out, have some interest in Mike Lowell.
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« Reply #606 on: July 24, 2010, 09:07:57 PM »

Haren was 43-34 with a 3.64ERA in his starts for the A's a few years back...
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« Reply #607 on: July 24, 2010, 11:59:00 PM »

Holly shit well it figures always in three.
I want to blame the cubs for some reason.



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« Reply #608 on: July 25, 2010, 02:45:36 AM »

Haren was 43-34 with a 3.64ERA in his starts for the A's a few years back...
Oakland is a big time pitcher's ballpark, so the 3.64 ERA should be taken with a grain of salt.  He was GREAT a few years back with the D-backs.  Maybe pitching for a competitive team would light a fire under him, but he hasn't pitched all that well THIS season.
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« Reply #609 on: July 25, 2010, 12:57:02 PM »

Agreed with your statement about this season. Like you said though, it could light a fire. Hell, let him pinch hit once in awhile Tongue
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« Reply #610 on: July 25, 2010, 06:27:56 PM »

Haren went to the Angels.
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« Reply #611 on: July 25, 2010, 06:55:36 PM »

Eh, oh well. Probably gave them a better package than the Yanks would have.
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« Reply #612 on: July 25, 2010, 08:55:33 PM »

Man, the second pitcher that appeared destined to end up with the Yanks, doesn't.  Wonder if they'll get in on Oswalt, or someone else.  Not that they NEED to make a deal.

It appears the Sox will be getting Victor Martinez back tomorrow.  Maybe they'll be able to score more than 2-3 runs a game with him taking the place of Kevin Cash/Dusty Brown/etc?  And it looks like both Ellsbury and Pedroia are progressing.  Unfortunately they keep falling further back in the standings, so by the time they get everyone back it just might be too late.
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« Reply #613 on: July 25, 2010, 09:22:19 PM »

Eh, oh well. Probably gave them a better package than the Yanks would have.
Buster Olney doesn't seem to think the Angels gave up a whole lot.

On the Haren trade, it's worth remembering what Ariz. gave up: Brett Anderson, Carlos Gonzalez,C.Carter, A.Cunningham,G.Smith, and Dana Eveland. In return, they get a middle-of-the-road lefty in Joe Saunders, a B-plus/A-minus prospect in Corbin, a journeyman reliever and a player to be named, who will not be an elite prospect. This will feed into perception Arizona had to move the $.
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« Reply #614 on: July 26, 2010, 08:51:54 AM »

  Unfortunately they keep falling further back in the standings, so by the time they get everyone back it just might be too late.

9 losses out of first.  Too much further back and they're going to be on the verge of irrelevance.  If they're 10-12 losses back by mid August, they're going to be in TROUBLE.
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« Reply #615 on: July 26, 2010, 09:48:50 AM »

Cards unlikely to aquire Oswalt, more info here:

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_7ccc88fb-73ff-56b0-b844-0f6e3dec46ac.html

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« Reply #616 on: July 26, 2010, 10:50:50 AM »

  Unfortunately they keep falling further back in the standings, so by the time they get everyone back it just might be too late.

9 losses out of first.  Too much further back and they're going to be on the verge of irrelevance.  If they're 10-12 losses back by mid August, they're going to be in TROUBLE.
First place isn't all that important.  Making the playoffs is the key, so the wild card is the focus.  But that is slipping away as well and it still may be too late by the time they get healthy.
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« Reply #617 on: July 27, 2010, 09:22:45 AM »

Pretty intense how Haren had to leave the field after only 4.2 innings as an Angel.
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« Reply #618 on: July 27, 2010, 12:52:49 PM »

Just a personal story here guys one of my dads friends won some raffle and is taking my little bro, his son, and one of there friends to see the White Sox up close.

They get to be there when they practice and meet most if not all the players!!!
I am pissed he didn't invite me but o well.





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« Reply #619 on: July 29, 2010, 04:21:07 PM »

Oswalt to the Phillies.
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