[TORRENT/ FLAC/ MP3] Destroyer - Tokyo, 12/19/2009 (links on first post)

[Will]

It doesn't work on my MediaFire either: http://www.mediafire.com/gnrfrance . I'll try to upload it to MegaUpload or something later.

All links are in the first post of this thread.

[TomFriend]

Saying that ''the trading community could end right here, right now, that I would never give a fuck'' is perfectly understandable for a guy that have seen the band live like 30 times, diff lineups. But this is not a legit parameter.

Yeah, I don't give a fuck because I'm not that interested in that scene where you bicker year after year about who said what and how this is better than that blah blah blah.

Bootlegs are a nice bonus, not something essential.

I can enjoy GN'R's music by listening to the studio albums.  


When I see people like yourself attack Will and myself because we chose to respect somebody's wishes, it just makes me realize why I don't want any part of your little "scene".

Good points well made. I think there's only a couple of people here who truly feel otherwise - and one of them 'doesn't give a fuck about the trading community' - which shows you how much they care about other fans enjoyment.

You better take that back.

You're saying I don't care about other fans enjoyment? Pretty fucking insulting.

I've ran this site for over 13 years now.I find your comment highly insulting and disrespectful. So I suggest you apologize for it ASAP.



The whole "I don't give a fuck about what happens to the so called trading community" is more about a select few individuals.

The trading community is not a few select individuals. I find your dismissal of the community insulting and disrespectful. You trivialize and dismiss their enjoyment of the band and their ability to hear shows. You don't care about bootlegs, so apparently they're 'not essential'. Oh yeah, you really care about fans being able to enjoy these recordings.

I find your comments that those who share files with fans 'only care about themselves' insulting and disrespectful.

Difference is, I don't gloat every time someone agrees with me or demand apologies every time my precious feelings are hurt.

[jarmo]

The trading community is not a few select individuals. I find your dismissal of the community insulting and disrespectful. You trivialize and dismiss their enjoyment of the band and their ability to hear shows. You don't care about bootlegs, so apparently they're 'not essential'. Oh yeah, you really care about fans being able to enjoy these recordings.

I find your comments that those who share files with fans 'only care about themselves' insulting and disrespectful.

Difference is, I don't gloat every time someone agrees with me or demand apologies every time my precious feelings are hurt.

Where's your apology?

Oh right. Exactly as a predicted.


The trading community as a whole isn't the issue here. Because there are people in it who agree with me.

Is that the issue? No.

The real issue is you making generalizations while pursuing this personal agenda (?) you have. While doing so, you've made yourself look like a fool.

If you could put those feelings aside, you wouldn't be labeling me as a "person who doesn't care for other fans' enjoyment" now would you?


Just because you don't agree with a person because of his/her opinion on a matter doesn't mean you have to take a shit on what he/she has done previously. Which is what you did.

I don't expect you to understand. It's easier to just keep going on about what a stupid dick I am.

You're very good at it and I wouldn't disrespect you by saying otherwise.



FYI: I'm one of those who has shared files so I guess I'm being disrespectful towards myself as well? 
I started sharing mp3s on this very site back in 1997. February 8, 1997 to be more exact. Remember that?

Of course not.

What else do you wanna attack me for?

Go ahead. This seems to be the topic of this thread (once again, I've become the topic). I must be the favorite topic some of you have. The amount of attention I get is astounding. 


Oh the irony.... This was probably the first GN'R site (or home page as they were called back then) to share mp3s....



Regarding bootlegs not being essential, it's called my opinion. Am I allowed to have one or does it annoy you that I do?

Bootlegs didn't make me a fan of GN'R. So to me, personally speaking, only speaking on my own behalf without trying to piss off any person and/or the community/nation/group/club he/she might be or consider him/herself to be part of.




/jarmo

[Gaymo, the Hobbit]

I just dont get why you always have to go on a big rant about everything someone says. So what?
You take stuff much too personally and turn very disrespectful yourself without even noticing.

just my 2 cents

[TomFriend]

Go ahead. This seems to be the topic of this thread (once again, I've become the topic). I must be the favorite topic some of you have. The amount of attention I get is astounding. 

At least a half dozen times now you've said you don't give a fuck about this whole situation, and about half a dozen times you've come back with lengthy posts about it. Accusing me or anyone else of making this thread about you seems a bit rich.

Yes, you've done great work for the site. Nobody said otherwise. If I had said 'Jarmo doesn't give a fuck about GNR' or 'Jarmo doesn't do a good job running the message board', I'd apologize.

Saying you don't give a fuck about fan's enjoyment, clearly talking about bootlegs, in a paragraph about bootlegs, in a bootleg forum, on a bootleg thread when you've said bootlegs don't matter and that you 'don't give a fuck about what happens to the trading community' doesn't seem like much of a stretch on my part, or a wild accusation.

The amount of insults you dole out to fans on a seemingly daily basis is pretty staggering, yet you seem to take offense very easily.

If you think I've made a fool of myself, fine, I'll live with that. I'd rather be considered a fool than be accused of acting like a God.

Anyway, thanks to the uploaders; Jarmo, if it weren't implied by us being here, thanks for the site.

[jarmo]

I just dont get why you always have to go on a big rant about everything someone says. So what?
You take stuff much too personally and turn very disrespectful yourself without even noticing.

just my 2 cents

No, you see this has no effect on me. I got way more important things on my agenda. Trust me!


I do comment on things I don't agree with and in this case I find it ridiculous how this guy can attack me for something so ridiculous as "not caring for other fans' enjoyment". I mean, come on!

It's pretty creative, I'll give you that. But still, it comes down to one fact: It's bullshit!


Sure, you can think that. You're free to believe whatever the fuck you want.

Read my posts and make up your mind about the kind of person that I am. I don't care. I know some do that. Not much I can do about it, so why worry about it?



But to me personally, once again this is only my opinion and I'm not trying to piss off you or your scene, it just looks like a pathetic attempt at getting back at somebody who you don't agree with (or like).

You don't like me? Fair enough. Chances are you're a stranger to me. A guy on a message board that I never met....  That kind of people don't ruin my days. Any more than the other strangers we encounter daily.

The amount of insults you dole out to fans on a seemingly daily basis is pretty staggering, yet you seem to take offense very easily.

Well the funny thing is, that those guys seem to get insulted. Do I go on other sites talking about you? No I don't.

Trust me, I don't get insulted. I just point out shit I don't agree with.



Like in this case, I didn't agree with disrespecting the original source's wishes. I still don't.

But if I cared a bit yesterday, I care way less now! I learned from this. This is the whole "I don't care" thing. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

I was naive enough to think that if we get the best possible copies out first, people who want mp3s would have patience to wait a little while. But I should've known better.

As I said, I learned from this and I hope you all get the mp3s you deserve! And if you don't because people refuse to share, oh well. Right?

Anyway, thanks to the uploaders; Jarmo, if it weren't implied by us being here, thanks for the site.

You're very welcome!



/jarmo

[Cowboy Buddha]

Is anyone else having trouble with the D2T02 Dj Ashba Solo and D3T12 Paradise City on mediafire?

Thanks for the uploads, boys and girls!

[Will]

Yes, other people talked about it. gnr2006 and I will try to upload them again on different servers.

[Cowboy Buddha]

Cool  Thanks guys.

[gnr2006]

Megaupload (FLAC):

Part 1 of 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RO2DH70Q
Part 2 of 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=11YGX8QY

Single Flac Files on Mediafire (FLAC): http://www.mediafire.com/gnr2010/
see below if you have trouble with any files - contact me if you have trouble with one not listed below

Single FLAC Files on Megaupload:

DJ Ashba Solo: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BVGRTTZ7
Paradise City: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G457NTOD

Single FLAC Files on SendSpace:

DJ Ashba Solo: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4djwpr
Paradise City: http://www.sendspace.com/file/217vhv

[Gunsguy]

Because I always back the original uploader 100%, here are some direct downloads of the Flac files, the people causing problems here are pathetic really, download the fucking flac and convert it to how you want just dont share it?  Big deal! give me a fucking break, this does not go for everyone but a select few who feel they are king shit cause they have more boots than most fans, again give me a break....  Just so no one is confused about this just cause you have 1000+ silver disc boots yadda yadda yadda dont mean shit in my world, IT MEANS FUCK ALL, you dont call the shots.  I like MP3 for some reasons, but Flac is better and if I want I can download a free converter to make my own mp3's outta anything, so man up and turn off the fucking childish school girl whining....

anyway here are the FLACS:

Direct Downloads Flac on multiple servers split into the 3 discs:

Disc 1.rar   (487.59 MB)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RWYEVYFI

http://depositfiles.com/en/files/y741wh5fr

http://www.zshare.net/download/708319065bc57cd2/

http://www.badongo.com/file/19549338

Disk 2.rar  (494 MB)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HFP5UPXK

http://depositfiles.com/en/files/ozjydhg13

http://www.zshare.net/download/70830143a22a1a1f/

http://www.badongo.com/file/19549029

Disk 3.rar  (414.7 MB)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S8KFIPOI

http://www.zshare.net/download/708348509e32cbf2/

http://uploading.com/files/3938e6ab/DestroyerD3.rar/

Peace, and share these links anywhere you like I uploaded them for the GNR fans....

[gnr2006]

wow, awesome gunsguy, really awesome!

[axlrosegnr]

Megaupload (FLAC):

Part 1 of 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RO2DH70Q
Part 2 of 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=11YGX8QY

Single Flac Files on Mediafire (FLAC): http://www.mediafire.com/gnr2010/
see below if you have trouble with any files - contact me if you have trouble with one not listed below

Single FLAC Files on Megaupload:

DJ Ashba Solo: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BVGRTTZ7
Paradise City: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G457NTOD

Single FLAC Files on SendSpace:

DJ Ashba Solo: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4djwpr
Paradise City: currently uploading

Single FLAC Files On Rapidshare:

currently uploading

Thanks!!

[Cowboy Buddha]

once again.  Thanks to all for the uploads!

[Will]

I edited the first post with those links guys.

[estebanf]

When I see people like yourself attack Will and myself because we chose to respect somebody's wishes, it just makes me realize why I don't want any part of your little "scene".

I am not attacking you or Will.

And I truly can make a difference between Will and you. Sorry to say this, but its the pure truth.

Its easy to tell that Will is doing his best to spread the GNR live music, because he's been uploading stuff from day zero of this new tour, and he has some big ''history'' in the trading community. Its also easy to see that Will knows how a good trading / sharing community is or should be, and that he understands the importance of the light and ''friendly'' mp3 format. He uploaded SEVERAL mp3 boots these days, and all of us were grateful with him.

You just dont give a fuck about this subject. How can you give a shit if you attended the show in question, and all other asian shows from this year and some from past years? Well, i got news for you, your case is one in a million. I truly dont think you love GNR more than me. Difference is I cant see GNR live everytime i want.

There were LOTS of people asking not to convert their uploads to mp3 (like prisby) in the past. it was done anyway, and I have never see you ''moderating'' this section back then.

I really think you just wanted to play some role in this subject, and found a whole lot of people (long time collectors) thinking the opposite than you, and with very good arguments you can only counterattack with that ''respect uploader's wish'' crap.

I have nothing against you (God... dont add me to your black list of people who have ''agendas'' against you  ). But I truly think you should contemplate the possibility of being wrong sometimes. Calling this trading community a ''little scene'' wasn't very nice at all. I think this ''little scene'' did and is doing an enormous job spreading the GNR music for free to fans and people all over the world.

[Will]

I really think you just wanted to play some role in this subject

Just to add my 2 cents about this, I actually first talked to Jarmo about it and we both decided to respect the uploader's wish, so I don't think Jarmo wanted to have anything to do with this in the first place.
I do apologize for these long discussions and for talking about it in the first place, but I didn't think people would argue about something like this.

I think Jarmo posted here because people started arguing about something that we both thought was right, but of course I don't want to speak for him.

[estebanf]

I like MP3 for some reasons, but Flac is better and if I want I can download a free converter to make my own mp3's outta anything, so man up and turn off the fucking childish school girl whining....

That's not the problem. Think a bit more. Not all the world is USA or Sweden. There is not a broadband connection at every house in places like southamerica, central america, africa, asia and other places. But GNR fans are everywhere. Its not easy, even for me, to download 1,4gb of stuff. I still manage to do it, cause I dont like lossy stuff.

Problem is HOW to get the 1,4 gb thing. Yes, obviously, once you have it, converting it is quite simple.

You can convert the 1,4 gb thing into 150 mb in one minute. 40 minutes later, you can have the files up. 10 minutes later, a whole bunch of thousands of fans can enjoy the music you and I are enjoying.

But there is STILL people trying to deny the fans that chance, just because they werent born in the first world. THATS pathetic.

[Gunsguy]

I like MP3 for some reasons, but Flac is better and if I want I can download a free converter to make my own mp3's outta anything, so man up and turn off the fucking childish school girl whining....

That's not the problem. Think a bit more. Not all the world is USA or Sweden. There is not a broadband connection at every house in places like southamerica, central america, africa, asia and other places. But GNR fans are everywhere. Its not easy, even for me, to download 1,4gb of stuff. I still manage to do it, cause I dont like lossy stuff.

Problem is HOW to get the 1,4 gb thing. Yes, obviously, once you have it, converting it is quite simple.

You can convert the 1,4 gb thing into 150 mb in one minute. 40 minutes later, you can have the files up. 10 minutes later, a whole bunch of thousands of fans can enjoy the music you and I are enjoying.

But there is STILL people trying to deny the fans that chance, just because they werent born in the first world. THATS pathetic.

I am calling bullshit on that point, I had dial up for years, if I really wanted something I downloaded the torrent and left it on all the time till it finished then seeded it, you are not talking about people not getting the flacs youre talking about people wanting instant gratification, and crying if they don't, that's the issue here.  You are worried about the people that dont have or cannot afford a high speed internet service?  Here is a question then, what are you doing to spread these to the thousands if not millions that do not have any connection?  right, didn't think so, instant gratification is the problem....  I just got high speed 2 years ago and have plenty of boots downloaded at 4-5kb/s I never cried about it

[w.axl.rose]

lol did you just get your first -1 esteban? and could you guys take this to pm before i start handing out -k.... only kidding  


anyway thanks for everyone that has uploaded the bootleg for us to download.