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« on: December 11, 2009, 07:36:28 PM »

I'm curious on everyone's opinion on what's a better opener Welcome to the Jungle or Chinese Democracy. I feel both songs work extremely well. Chinese Democracy w/ that subtle opening followed by the tunderous and choppy guitars n' of course Axl's howl all leading to a fantastic fireworks display.  Where as Welcome to the Jungle the opening chord is all the fireworks one needs. An instant classic!! I'm sideing w/ good ol' WTTJ on this one..That song is meant to open up any and all events, why not a GN'R show...Who cares if it's been the set opener the last 2 tours, hasn't Paradise City been the set closer even longer!! I feel CD would make a great lead encore, followed by Sorry n' than Paradise City.
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2009, 07:40:43 PM »

For this tour, it must be CD.

Overall, I think Jungle is the best opener, but then again, that's my favorite song of all time.

Guns did it right this time.  All the fans have been clamoring to have CD open the show, and by George, we got it.

It's the first time since 1993 that a song other than Jungle has kicked things off.  The people at the Taiwan gig should feel very lucky.
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2009, 07:45:02 PM »

CD by a longshot.

Kick their ass with the new stuff, then remind them of the classics.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2009, 07:47:56 PM »

I'm curious on everyone's opinion on what's a better opener Welcome to the Jungle or Chinese Democracy. I feel both songs work extremely well. Chinese Democracy w/ that subtle opening followed by the tunderous and choppy guitars n' of course Axl's howl all leading to a fantastic fireworks display.  Where as Welcome to the Jungle the opening chord is all the fireworks one needs. An instant classic!! I'm sideing w/ good ol' WTTJ on this one..That song is meant to open up any and all events, why not a GN'R show...Who cares if it's been the set opener the last 2 tours, hasn't Paradise City been the set closer even longer!! I feel CD would make a great lead encore, followed by Sorry n' than Paradise City.

I'm ALL ABOUT Chinese D as the opener. I love me some Jungle and all but I've been dying for CD to be the opener for ever. I'd even move Jungle further back.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2009, 07:56:16 PM »

If I were to design a setlist specifically myself, I'd have say 5 or 6 Appetite songs about 2/3rds of the way through the set, beginning with Jungle, and use the rest of the time for C.D. and Illusions stuff - but that would never work, let's face it. A lot of people go to see GNR for the Appetite material and you've got to space it out through the set to hold their interest.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2009, 08:27:35 PM »

Yeah, I was hoping they'd go super CD and take out some of the older songs  and I think opening with CD is the right decision.

Id love to see Jungle open the encore. that would be pretty bad ass. Jungle Better PC to close   WOW!
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2009, 10:37:42 PM »

For this tour, it must be CD.

Overall, I think Jungle is the best opener, but then again, that's my favorite song of all time.

Guns did it right this time.  All the fans have been clamoring to have CD open the show, and by George, we got it.

It's the first time since 1993 that a song other than Jungle has kicked things off.  The people at the Taiwan gig should feel very lucky.
It must have been so amazing for those lucky fans!
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2009, 10:42:35 PM »

I hope they go through the whole tour with "Chinese Democracy" opening.

Not necessarily because I love the song alot, but just because now is the time for the album to get the exposure it deserved.

Last time around the casual and hardcore fans alike got a familiar setlist of songs. Now is the time for them to pay more attention to the new music and what this band can do rather than just going for the sake of Axl singing the classics.

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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2009, 10:53:22 PM »

 Jungle to encore
 Chinese as opener . ok



The pyro on chinese its insane.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2009, 11:43:36 PM »

Jungle all the way!!
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2009, 01:52:05 AM »

CD without doubt. I want to hear the new album take centre stage - the band deserve for the CD songs to be at the centre of these shows, I'm sure thats why they sound so good, this is their shit now. I wouldn't even have had PC as the last song I would of had Prostitute, also wish they would have done IRS but hey there is plenty of time for that. Just glad to have them back and playing so fucking well.

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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2009, 02:04:32 AM »

I gotta say....(and i fucking LOVE the whole album Chinese Democracy).....that I though Jungle should never be replaced as opener.....however...I think I already mentioned this in another thread...I'm a sucker for pyro...That CD opening was NUTS!! But in the end, I guess I really don't care....the band is up there, they can do what they want and I'll be fuckin great!!

On that note though....hahahaha.....they can never replace Paradise City as closer...haha....sorry, im drunk.
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2009, 07:09:23 AM »

I hope they'll start with It's so Easy at some show. Loved that back in the days.
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2009, 10:06:57 AM »

it's kinda hard.. either one could be the first song and the first song of the encore.. love them both, but with the pyro and that was in taipei for CD, i'd take that as the set opener
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2009, 10:35:48 AM »

basically, why don't ya decide which after you hear it live yourself?
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2009, 10:42:37 AM »

basically, why don't ya decide which after you hear it live yourself?
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2009, 11:21:10 AM »

WTTJ is so powerfull, it's an hymn of Rock History. Chinese Democray is a average rock song, it can be work in this tour  as opener but over next years and tour, nobody'll miss CD if it's not in the set list, quite the contrary with Welcome To The Jungle.
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2009, 11:49:23 AM »

WTTJ is so powerfull, it's an hymn of Rock History. Chinese Democray is a average rock song, it can be work in this tour  as opener but over next years and tour, nobody'll miss CD if it's not in the set list, quite the contrary with Welcome To The Jungle.
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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2009, 05:23:56 PM »

Just watched WWTJ form the other night. As the 2nd song, it totally works!! CD gets the ball rolling n' WTTJ just adds to the momentum...
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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2009, 05:28:55 PM »

I think it would be killer if Jungle came right after the encore

Everybody calming down and AXL SCREAMING "DO YOU KNOWWWWWWW WHERE YOU ARE?" haha

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