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Wow, this reminds me of the 90s! They haven?t even started touring, and yet we already have negative and distorted shit about them in the press!
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I listened to the entire Steven Tyler interview. He was asked a question and simply answered it, even going out of his way to say that he wasn't directly responsible but that he had just had conversations with both Slash and Axl in the past about it. Any perception that Steven is taking credit has more to do with the media taking things out of context than was he actually said. And I think Axl, Slash and Duff know how that works!
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Quote from: 14 Yrs Of Silence on January 28, 2016, 11:13:36 AM
I listened to the entire Steven Tyler interview. He was asked a question and simply answered it, even going out of his way to say that he wasn't directly responsible but that he had just had conversations with both Slash and Axl in the past about it. Any perception that Steven is taking credit has more to do with the media taking things out of context than was he actually said. And I think Axl, Slash and Duff know how that works!
The statement says "many people..." So obviously it?s not about one person. Was Tyler one of the many people they aimed in the statement? I think he was. Was it right to add Tyler? I?m with you, I don?t think Tyler meant to take credit for anything. But GN?R might think otherwise.
I?m afraid it?s not about what Steven Tyler said. It?s how they feel about it
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The only bad press is no press just ask Trump. Keep 'em coming
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Quote from: jamillos22 on January 28, 2016, 10:59:34 AM
Wow, this reminds me of the 90s! They haven?t even started touring, and yet we already have negative and distorted shit about them in the press!
The press is even more dangerous and misleading in 2016 than it was back then. Back then media outlets at least kind of had a reputation they had to maintain. That still didn't stop a lot them from reporting outright lies but it kept some of them in check. There was a process they had to go through to get a story published. 2016 is like the Wild West. "Journalists" can throw anything on the Internet in seconds and they usually don't fact check any of it. Even worse, in this world of click bait we live in, it is actually beneficial to them to post a misleading headline because it gets more clicks. That Alternative Nation seems to be one of the worst offenders recently. I heard the Steven Tyler clip from Stern, then I saw the headlines about what Tyler said and you would think there are 50 different clips we didn't hear, there aren't. It is just being manipulated by bloggers and anyone else with a voice.
All of that said, is it any wonder why Axl, Slash and Duff haven't done any press yet? Why would they? The whole point of doing media is to promote your current projects, judging from ticket sales they don't need to do any promoting. Why go down that road where you know some unknown blogger is just waiting to take some of their words out of context to try to stir up some shit between them?
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Perfect example of what I'm talking about. Did the tweet ever mention Steven Tyler? Do you think any of the people running blabbermouth contacted anyone from the band to confirm it was about Tyler?
GUNS N' ROSES Pokes Fun At STEVEN TYLER For Taking Credit For Band's Reunion
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Quote from: Bodhi on January 28, 2016, 11:42:29 AM
Quote from: jamillos22 on January 28, 2016, 10:59:34 AM
Wow, this reminds me of the 90s! They haven?t even started touring, and yet we already have negative and distorted shit about them in the press!
The press is even more dangerous and misleading in 2016 than it was back then. Back then media outlets at least kind of had a reputation they had to maintain. That still didn't stop a lot them from reporting outright lies but it kept some of them in check. There was a process they had to go through to get a story published. 2016 is like the Wild West. "Journalists" can throw anything on the Internet in seconds and they usually don't fact check any of it. Even worse, in this world of click bait we live in, it is actually beneficial to them to post a misleading headline because it gets more clicks. That Alternative Nation seems to be one of the worst offenders recently. I heard the Steven Tyler clip from Stern, then I saw the headlines about what Tyler said and you would think there are 50 different clips we didn't hear, there aren't. It is just being manipulated by bloggers and anyone else with a voice.
All of that said, is it any wonder why Axl, Slash and Duff haven't done any press yet? Why would they? The whole point of doing media is to promote your current projects, judging from ticket sales they don't need to do any promoting. Why go down that road where you know some unknown blogger is just waiting to take some of their words out of context to try to stir up some shit between them?
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Perfect example of what I'm talking about. Did the tweet ever mention Steven Tyler? Do you think any of the people running blabbermouth contacted anyone from the band to confirm it was about Tyler?
GUNS N' ROSES Pokes Fun At STEVEN TYLER For Taking Credit For Band's Reunion
Read more at
http://www.blabbermouth.net
So you don't think it's a reasonable assumption that Steven Tyler was one of the people that the tweet was referring to? Steven's comments were the closet in time to the tweet. Since he was the last (of several) people to discuss the reunion, it's not a complete leap of faith to assume he was part of the intended audience.
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I guess it is a reasonable assumption, does that make it fact? So you think it is ok for media to report things as absolute fact because they assume something? They could have reported the story the way it happened, but putting Steven Tyler's name in the headline gave the article more clicks. There are a lot of people taking credit for the shows. I think if GNR meant to single out Steven Tyler they would have, don't you?
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Quote from: Bodhi on January 28, 2016, 12:10:23 PM
I guess it is a reasonable assumption, does that make it fact? So you think it is ok for media to report things as absolute fact because they assume something? They could have reported the story the way it happened, but putting Steven Tyler's name in the headline gave the article more clicks. There are a lot of people taking credit for the shows. I think if GNR meant to single out Steven Tyler they would have, don't you?
The article states that the tweet "appears to be a direct reaction to Tyler's claims". They are not stating it as fact.
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Some headlines:
Guns N' Roses shoots down Aerosmith singer Steven Tyler's claims he helped them reunite
Feud Alert! Guns N' Roses Shoots Shade at Steven Tyler Over Upcoming Reunion Concerts
Guns N’ Roses Poke Fun at Steven Tyler + Others Claiming Responsibility for Reunion
Guns N' Roses slag off Steven Tyler for trying to take the credit for their reunion
All mention Steven Tyler while the original tweet did not!
In the articles themselves, they make it clear that it might be directed at Steven Tyler....
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Quote from: jarmo on January 28, 2016, 01:27:33 PM
Some headlines:
Guns N' Roses shoots down Aerosmith singer Steven Tyler's claims he helped them reunite
Feud Alert! Guns N' Roses Shoots Shade at Steven Tyler Over Upcoming Reunion Concerts
Guns N? Roses Poke Fun at Steven Tyler + Others Claiming Responsibility for Reunion
Guns N' Roses slag off Steven Tyler for trying to take the credit for their reunion
All mention Steven Tyler while the original tweet did not!
In the articles themselves, they make it clear that it might be directed at Steven Tyler....
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Of course the original tweet did not Steven directly...since when does Guns operate with unambiguous language? Slash and Stephanie Seymour aren't named in any CD songs but I'm willing to bet some are about them.
You think it's totally illogical for anyone to connect the dots that the tweet was directed to Steven and everyone else that made similar comments? To me, Steven's being referenced because the tweet came out soon after his comments aired. If Dice had been the last person to make a comment, I think the headline would read with his name and not Steven's.
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Quote from: Ginger King on January 28, 2016, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: Bodhi on January 28, 2016, 12:10:23 PM
I guess it is a reasonable assumption, does that make it fact? So you think it is ok for media to report things as absolute fact because they assume something? They could have reported the story the way it happened, but putting Steven Tyler's name in the headline gave the article more clicks. There are a lot of people taking credit for the shows. I think if GNR meant to single out Steven Tyler they would have, don't you?
The article states that the tweet "appears to be a direct reaction to Tyler's claims". They are not stating it as fact.
Right, the article does, which you can only get to by clicking on the extremely misleading headline. Hence the term "click bait." If the title of the article was more in line with actual story, not nearly as many people would have clicked on it. It's wrong. Also lets not even get into the amount of people who only read headlines and skim articles, which is how all this inaccurate stuff gets traction. A title like this shows up on people's newsfeeds and people who don't read the article go on thinking there is this huge GNR/Aerosmith feud.
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Quote from: Bodhi on January 28, 2016, 01:40:25 PM
Quote from: Ginger King on January 28, 2016, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: Bodhi on January 28, 2016, 12:10:23 PM
I guess it is a reasonable assumption, does that make it fact? So you think it is ok for media to report things as absolute fact because they assume something? They could have reported the story the way it happened, but putting Steven Tyler's name in the headline gave the article more clicks. There are a lot of people taking credit for the shows. I think if GNR meant to single out Steven Tyler they would have, don't you?
The article states that the tweet "appears to be a direct reaction to Tyler's claims". They are not stating it as fact.
Right, the article does, which you can only get to by clicking on the extremely misleading headline. Hence the term "click bait." If the title of the article was more in line with actual story, not nearly as many people would have clicked on it. It's wrong. Also lets not even get into the amount of people who only read headlines and skim articles, which is how all this inaccurate stuff gets traction. A title like this shows up on people's newsfeeds and people who don't read the article go on thinking there is this huge GNR/Aerosmith feud.
I get (and agree) that the headlines are nothing more than click bait. But ask yourself: If it wasn't (at least in part) directed at Steve, to whom was it directed at? There has to be an intended target(s), right? It seems silly to think that the tweet would be made in a vacuum. Of course it was directed at someone, or a group of people.
Also, FWIT, I think it's kind of funny.
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Quote from: Ginger King on January 28, 2016, 01:35:04 PM
You think it's totally illogical for anyone to connect the dots that the tweet was directed to Steven and everyone else that made similar comments? To me, Steven's being referenced because the tweet came out soon after his comments aired. If Dice had been the last person to make a comment, I think the headline would read with his name and not Steven's.
I didn't say it's illogical, but the headlines make it seem like it's 100% sure it's about Steven Tyler. And then you click it and find out it might, or might not be, about him.
So if you only read the headlines, you get the impression they singled him out in the tweet. Which they obviously didn't.
I think GN'R vs Steven Tyler makes a better headline than Dice....
More clicks for their sites!
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Quote from: damnthehaters on January 28, 2016, 12:58:48 AM
Quote from: GypsySoul on January 27, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
This latest tweet specifically says "we" and was retweeted by Duff. Doesn't that make it seem like it was 'approved' by Axl/Slash/Duff as one camp to be posted under the GNR account name?
Jesus. We...as in GNR. No need to overthink things. I'm sure Axl can tweet things without checking with someone else
So you think that all of a sudden Axl is too shy to own up that those are his words so he used the GNR account instead of his own?
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Quote from: GypsySoul on January 28, 2016, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: damnthehaters on January 28, 2016, 12:58:48 AM
Quote from: GypsySoul on January 27, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
This latest tweet specifically says "we" and was retweeted by Duff. Doesn't that make it seem like it was 'approved' by Axl/Slash/Duff as one camp to be posted under the GNR account name?
Jesus. We...as in GNR. No need to overthink things. I'm sure Axl can tweet things without checking with someone else
So you think that all of a sudden Axl is too shy to own up that those are his words so he used the GNR account instead of his own?
I find that a bit odd. If Axl was so concerned about the people taking credit for the reunion then why didn?t he use his own twitter. Nor he has retweeted the statement, at least not yet.
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Steven was beyond classy. If you listen to Stern he went on to even say Axls amazing on his own. The problem with social media is that it makes people social tools. #GnFnR
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Quote from: Fernando on January 28, 2016, 01:10:34 AM
I feel "we" should be considered as all of us. With exception of Adz, he's not "we".
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I ate some ice cream last week. Think it's fair to say it was me who's responsible for all this.
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All this talk about Steven while Fred durst and Andrew dice clay dodge bullets
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All this talk about Steven while Fred durst and Andrew dice clay dodge bullets
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