[football] FIFA's Southafrica 2010 World Cup

[Ulises]

Nice to read Mandy. She's light in all this darkness...

[kaasupoltin]

I guess it's useless for me to try to say anything anymore or talk about my opinions, 'cause I'm not from South America and Argentina is better than Germany 'cause South Americans say so.

I'll just wait for the matches to start again..

[jarmo]

It's also clear that the two Argentinians know nothing about Guns N' Roses. 

Using their own "logic" of course....

 




/jarmo

[svdv22]

Ok.. so.. let's focus on something slightly different.

Who's for the netherlands? And who thinks netherlands is going to win?

Needless to say I'm for the netherlands. And it's going to be a really tough job but far from impossible to beat spain. Yes, they were great again Germany but sucked against paraguay and they have a problem finishing their chances so yeah.. I see possibilities. I'm really excited.. I actually think netherlands is going to be world champions for the first time!!

So what do you guys think is going to be the world champion and who do you want to be the world champion?

ps: try to focus on the finals, ok? :p Not on what happened or who knows best.

[Ulises]

Leave me alone, kaasupoltin. If I wanted to talk about you or anyone else, I would say names. Please, stop the paranoia and leave me fucking alone.

Thanks.

[svdv22]

Ulises, who do you think is going to win and who do you want to win?

[kaasupoltin]

Yes, they were great again Germany but sucked against paraguay and they have a problem finishing their chances so yeah.. I see possibilities. I'm really excited.. I actually think netherlands is going to be world champions for the first time!!

I agree. Spain has had major difficulties when it comes down to scoring.. they can build up good chances but can't finish them. Whereas Holland needs less chances to score more goals.. but everything can change so it's needless to rely on these things, let's just wait and see what happens.
But I'm for Holland of course!

[jarmo]

Ok.. so.. let's focus on something slightly different.

Who's for the netherlands? And who thinks netherlands is going to win?

Since they're my adopted team, I hope they win it.

No matter how wrong the "experts" say that is. I don't give a fuck.  



But I think it's gonna be tough.

And since I know that Holland seems to underachieve when it matters, that makes me nervous.  




/jarmo

[Ulises]

@svdv: Well...It's hard. I'm not a fan of any of the teams (like I said, I'm a fan of Boca Juniors and Argentina...and that's it!) but I have some sympathy for both and it's cool to see that on sunday one of them is going to be the world's champion for the first time. I can't choose one, because I don't care about them that much, I'll watch the game because I like football and because it's the final of the World Cup but luckily I have my OWN team to cheer up and my team is sadly gone.

I don't know who is going to win, they're both strong, I leave that to Octopus Paul   . I've always had more sympathy for Holland but yesterday I saw an amazing Spain!!! One thing is sure: it's not the final I've expected.

[svdv22]

Ok.. so.. let's focus on something slightly different.

Who's for the netherlands? And who thinks netherlands is going to win?

Since they're my adopted team, I hope they win it.

No matter how wrong the "experts" say that is. I don't give a fuck.  



But I think it's gonna be tough.

And since I know that Holland seems to underachieve when it matters, that makes me nervous.  




/jarmo

Normally the dutch are about great football. Much like germany showed us a couple of times this world cup. They're not really about winning, so far, Ulises is right. But not this time around They say it themselves: 'they're on a mission'. Not a mission to "reach at least the quarter finals" or even reach the finals. Their mission is to win the world cup They're so focussed so sharp. You might complain about not playing too beautiful. And trust me, here in the Netherlands I hear people who actually don't care about winning the world cup if it "has to be this way". Well I want them to win, but most importantly: they want themselves to win. So I have every faith in this team

[svdv22]

Btw did anybody see the interview with vandervaart, de jong and sneyder after they reached the finals? With Jack van Gelder? He's a dutch tv presenter. Not very known outside our borders I guess. Might be the interview was broadcaster only in the netherlands. Either way it was funny as hell

[Mandy.]

Yes, they were great again Germany but sucked against paraguay and they have a problem finishing their chances so yeah.. I see possibilities. I'm really excited.. I actually think netherlands is going to be world champions for the first time!!

I agree. Spain has had major difficulties when it comes down to scoring.. they can build up good chances but can't finish them. Whereas Holland needs less chances to score more goals.. but everything can change so it's needless to rely on these things, let's just wait and see what happens.
But I'm for Holland of course!

Spain may not score a lot, but that's the beauty of it: they make sure the other team doesn't score either. They are too patient, they can keep the ball on their feet for as long as they want to, and that's how they create scoring opportunities. They are able to control the game. Also, I think it should be Villa and Torres starting on the final match line up, instead of Villa and Pedro. (Unless Torres is injured? Wasn't there something in that sense?)



I'm with Spain all the way. Despite the fact that I don't really like this Holland team, I think Spain really deserves it, for all they've built and achieved in the past few years.

[Mandy.]

I'm a fan of Boca Juniors

Ohhh, that explains some of the nonsense I've read you saying. 






Just kidding.

[One.In.A.Million]

The thing with Spain and Holland is that they have very similar styles of playing. They both like to control the game, and pass as much as they can, and only try to score if chances arise. I myself think it will be a very gaurded affair, with no one taking any chances until they have to.

If I had to choose a winner, I would pick Holland.

From what I have seen in this tournament so far, Holland seem to have more fighting power behind them. And I think since it will be a very sketchy game, Holland will just edge it.

I hope it's a good match none the less.

[Voodoochild]

I just hope to be a drawn match with extra time just to make it end later.

I'm so fucking addicted to the World Cup that I'm already sad.

[estebanf]

lets do this nice and simple.

1. handball is not allowed according to the rules.
2. to break the rules in order to gain an advantage is cheating.
3. therefore a deliberate handball is cheating.

still to hard to understand? Should I find a translator.

1. Grabbing a striker from his shirt is not allowed according to the rules
2. to break the rules in order to gain an advantage is cheating.
3. therefore grabbing a striker from his shirt is cheating.
4. conclussion: 100% of the victories in this world cup were achieved by CHEATING

now re-read the bullshit you wrote, give Aristoteles a god damn break, and come back with a decent post or dont even bother me.

I think Forl?n is one of the best midfielders in this World Cup

Even though he has been a versatile player all his career, and that Tabarez makes him play a little more backwards than his usual position in Atletico De Madrid, ''Cachavacha'' is a striker, a forward under every possible point of view. He's an area animal, not a midfielder. Just like Messi and Rooney: they are oftenly starting their runs in midfield, but they are all forwards.

It's also clear that the two Argentinians know nothing about Guns N' Roses. 

Using their own "logic" of course....

 

/jarmo

Are you challenging me about GNR knowledge?

I got my own logic, Jarmo. Quit using nationalities to make generalizations. It's scary, you know, there are lots of sad examples of that in history.

I do know about football and you do not, and that's not because I'm argentine and you're finnish.

So stop with the bullshit and quit mentioning (implicitely, if you want) me. Or Im gonna feel you have an ''agenda'' (  ) against me 

[jarmo]

It's also clear that the two Argentinians know nothing about Guns N' Roses. 

Using their own "logic" of course....

 

/jarmo

Are you challenging me about GNR knowledge?

Are you serious?     

I got my own logic, Jarmo. Quit using nationalities to make generalizations. It's scary, you know, there are lots of sad examples of that in history.

I do know about football and you do not, and that's not because I'm argentine and you're finnish.

So stop with the bullshit and quit mentioning (implicitely, if you want) me. Or Im gonna feel you have an ''agenda'' (  ) against me 

You see. Since you can so boldly claim others know nothing, so can I.

I know about GN'R and you don't based on that same logic.


Watching bootlegs and reading about GN'R doesn't give you knowledge. Isn't that what you have said all along?

If it applies to football, surely it applies to other subjects too. Such as GN'R.

Hence, you know nothing about GN'R.

Simple.

Either you admit it or you shut up about your "you know another about football" bullshit.

Deal?


Of course not. You would never admit to knowing less about GN'R than somebody else!





/jarmo


PS If anybody thinks I'm seriously having a "Who knows more about GN'R" contest, get real. It's a joke based on the ignorance I see coming from certain people and making fun of it. Because it's all you can do, laugh at it in disbelief.

[Mandy.]

Even though he has been a versatile player all his career, and that Tabarez makes him play a little more backwards than his usual position in Atletico De Madrid, ''Cachavacha'' is a striker, a forward under every possible point of view. He's an area animal, not a midfielder. Just like Messi and Rooney: they are oftenly starting their runs in midfield, but they are all forwards.

I must admit I never saw Forl?n playing in Atl?tico de Madrid, but from what I saw in this World Cup, he seemed to be a "attacking-midfielder" (sorry, don't even know if that's what you call it in English and can't be bothered to Google. Here we call "meia-atacante"). And for me, based on how he leads the game, he's been doing more the work of a midfielder, than that of a striker in the Uruguayan team.

[w.axl.rose]

It's also clear that the two Argentinians know nothing about Guns N' Roses. 

Using their own "logic" of course....

 

/jarmo

Are you challenging me about GNR knowledge?

Are you serious?     

CHALLENGE CHALLENGE CHALLENGE... 

[CheapJon]

It's also clear that the two Argentinians know nothing about Guns N' Roses. 

Using their own "logic" of course....

 

/jarmo

Are you challenging me about GNR knowledge?

Are you serious?     

CHALLENGE CHALLENGE CHALLENGE... 

that would be bad ass