Robin Finck

[GNR4L]

I'm sorry I even started this thread knowing it would come to this.  Then again the bashing doesn't surprise me... HEY GNR is on tour let's talk about that. 

[Voodoochild]

ok, show one thing in what i said that isn't the truth


did he quit GNR twice to run back to Trent?  YES    so u should apologize for not knowing shit

Did he leave Axl hanging with CD coming out without explanation? YES  so once again, maybe U should get the facts before coming in here looking like a jackass

So you know everything that happened between Robin and the band? We just know what has been made public. So YES, once again, you're full of shit.

U don't just jack a post of mine and spew some bullshit without backing up your lies with some truth.

so either prove me wrong or kindly STFU

Wow, tough guy!

What you said is not the full story, period. We may never know what reasons Robin had, as much as you want to put him as this evil dude who left all behind - including his own work.

Your cheap shots at Robin in every single thread leads me to think you actually love the guy.

[Voodoochild]

And what about that awful solo in This I Love that Ashba brought us?


Edited to add: not really a shot at the guy, I assume he's quite nervous to play those first GNR gigs. But then, don't come here talking about how Robin was "sloppy" and DJ is flawless, because this couldn't be more far from the truth.

The fact to me is that Ashba can't properly play Robin's solos, unlike Slash ones. Even on the old songs, I rather hear Robin's versions in the old songs than the copycat of Slash takes.

[Genesis]

Well, he's probably not used to playing such a random, unmelodious solo. Hell, that thing is so random, it's hard to remember after even so many listens. The fact that a good guitarist like Ashba can't play Robin's solo as well as he does Slash's, IMO, says more about how poor the solo is than his skills.

Great guitar solos are not ambiguous. You don't have half the people who listen to it say that it is crap. If you say that the solos in 'Hotel California', 'Sweet Child O' Mine' or 'Stairway To Heaven' are not good, you either don't know WTF you're are saying or you're biased. Everybody agrees those are exceptional solos.

TIL doesn't even come close.

[AxlReznor]

Jesus. What kind of heartless being do you have to be to not find the solo in This I Love one of the most beautiful things recorded in years? It's absolutely amazing!
Haven't heard DJ playing that song in more than a video with poor sound quality so far, so I can't comment on it. But of the solos I have heard in passable quality, I find it hard to believe he'd screw it up so badly.

[CheapJon]

Jesus. What kind of heartless being do you have to be to not find the solo in This I Love one of the most beautiful things recorded in years? It's absolutely amazing!
Haven't heard DJ playing that song in more than a video with poor sound quality so far, so I can't comment on it. But of the solos I have heard in passable quality, I find it hard to believe he'd screw it up so badly.

he did

robin's TIL solo is my favorite solo on the record, so beautiful, it's as fragile, innocent and heartbroken as the lyrics of the song

[chineseblues]

Jesus. What kind of heartless being do you have to be to not find the solo in This I Love one of the most beautiful things recorded in years? It's absolutely amazing!
Haven't heard DJ playing that song in more than a video with poor sound quality so far, so I can't comment on it. But of the solos I have heard in passable quality, I find it hard to believe he'd screw it up so badly.

robin's TIL solo is my favorite solo on the record, so beautiful, it's as fragile, innocent and heartbroken as the lyrics of the song

Exactly! The only people who say the solo sucks are the same people who have been bashing Robin for years anyway, so their opinion means nothing.

[Voodoochild]

Jesus. What kind of heartless being do you have to be to not find the solo in This I Love one of the most beautiful things recorded in years? It's absolutely amazing!
Haven't heard DJ playing that song in more than a video with poor sound quality so far, so I can't comment on it. But of the solos I have heard in passable quality, I find it hard to believe he'd screw it up so badly.

robin's TIL solo is my favorite solo on the record, so beautiful, it's as fragile, innocent and heartbroken as the lyrics of the song

Exactly! The only people who say the solo sucks are the same people who have been bashing Robin for years anyway, so their opinion means nothing.

Indeed. Those "half the people who listen to it and say its crap" are more concerned about it being very far from Slash's style than the piece itself.

[Jim Bob]

just sayin, he turned his back on the fans with no explanation.

to be fair, most "fans" did nothing but ridicule him while he was in the band.   And he has reached out and communicated to GnR fans in the past on his website.

He kept himself active.   He did what he wanted to do.  Axl had nothing ill to say about him in the chats last year, and Robin isn't the type to talk a whole lot anyways.

[Layflats]

I find it hard to believe he'd screw it up so badly.

Ever played guitar?  Being a half step off on something you are trying to memorize can really get messy.  It's not the easiest thing to try and stay faithful to a solo you didn't write/play when you're a guitar player.  Esp. in Ashba's position where he hasn't had a lot of time to ingrain the parts and just feel it.  Look at Ron's solos so far these last two shows, nearly flawless, but 2 + years of working on it.

The fact to me is that Ashba can't properly play Robin's solos, unlike Slash ones

Way too early to say that.

[Smoking Guns]

This is a Guns N Roses forum.  This is not a Robin Finck Forum. So don't expect total praise for Robin Finck on a Guns N Roses board.

Who is Guns N Roses?

Axl
Dizzy
Tommy
Frank
Ron
Richard
DJ
Chris

Finck isn't GNR.  He was a decent player and played some nice parts on CD. 

So DJ butchered a solo of a guy that butchered hundreds of solos while with GNR. 

(Does my above post sound like the type of posts we have been reading for years about another former GNR guitar player?  I thought so.)

[Voodoochild]

Esp. in Ashba's position where he hasn't had a lot of time to ingrain the parts and just feel it.  Look at Ron's solos so far these last two shows, nearly flawless, but 2 + years of working on it.

Ron had two weeks. Ashba had 7 months.

The fact to me is that Ashba can't properly play Robin's solos, unlike Slash ones

Way too early to say that.

Indeed, it was. Just saw him screwing up his November Rain solo too.

This is a Guns N Roses forum.  This is not a Robin Finck Forum. So don't expect total praise for Robin Finck on a Guns N Roses board.

I don't expect. But don't tell me Ashba is the best thing since sliced bread while taking shots at Robin because of a slopiness.

Who is Guns N Roses?

Axl
Dizzy
Tommy
Frank
Ron
Richard
DJ
Chris

Finck isn't GNR.  He was a decent player and played some nice parts on CD. 

He probably will be on the second album just like Buckethead did on Chinese. He is out, indeed, but he will still part of the band in that matter.

So DJ butchered a solo of a guy that butchered hundreds of solos while with GNR. 

(Does my above post sound like the type of posts we have been reading for years about another former GNR guitar player?  I thought so.)

DJ bucthered Sorry, November Rain, This I Love and Street of Dreams. Not just "a solo". Still, people rather comment on how cool he looks while saying Robin was the worst thing ever.

And no, this has nothing to do with Slash.

[AxlReznor]

I'm sorry, but I know for a fact that Sorry and Street Of Dreams were not butchered by DJ. Far from it.
You prefer Robin, fair enough. But don't go making accusations like that, which are just ridiculous.

[Smoking Guns]

DJ and Robin, and Fortus are all around the same level in skill.  I wouldn't say they are "elite" players, but they are solid touring players for sure.  Bucket and Bumble are on another level. 

[Layflats]

Once you start nitpicking this "who is a better guitarist", you start to lose out on what makes a great rock band.  These shows shouldn't be exams on technical skill.

What's the "rippin-ist" Beatles or Who solo??  I think Keith Richards put it best when he said it all becomes a "fastest gun in the West" mentallity when you try to compare technical soloing skill.

The original line-up had obvious chemistry while it lasted.  Time will tell with this group, but so far they seem like they are having fun and giving the crowd a great show.

[Genesis]

Jesus. What kind of heartless being do you have to be to not find the solo in This I Love one of the most beautiful things recorded in years? It's absolutely amazing!
Haven't heard DJ playing that song in more than a video with poor sound quality so far, so I can't comment on it. But of the solos I have heard in passable quality, I find it hard to believe he'd screw it up so badly.

robin's TIL solo is my favorite solo on the record, so beautiful, it's as fragile, innocent and heartbroken as the lyrics of the song

Exactly! The only people who say the solo sucks are the same people who have been bashing Robin for years anyway, so their opinion means nothing.

Much like some people who like Robin regardless of how crappy he plays sometimes. Their opinion means nothing more either. I'll be the first to admit that Robin's solos / work on songs like Better, TWAT and the like are superb, but don't expect everyone to be as forgiving, when he botches up songs live or records a solo that sounds like a cat being tortured, let alone being "Fragile and Heartbroken".

[CheapJon]

i gotta start torture some cats, never liked the animal anyways and appearantly it sounds beautiful

[Genesis]

It would if you like the TIL solo.

[Lara]

i gotta start torture some cats, never liked the animal anyways and appearantly it sounds beautiful

    

 I guess you'll have to torture way too many cats to get TIL results.

[Genesis]

Or as one reviewer put it: "Like a cat being raped in front of an orchestra"