GNR sued for plagiarism

[ppbebe]

You're right. People SHOULD listen before they make their descision. But most won't. Now, I'm not saying this is HORRIBLE for the band. They've seen a hell of a lot worse, haha, I'm just saying that this is in no way GOOD for the band.

true they just see the words like 'gn'r' 'plagiarism' 'disappointing'  won't bother checking the pieces.
if the claimer was another well known musician, maybe they would.

Tickets are being sold in Asia ... Your calm ...

 

that's nothing to do with the German claim.

[FunkyMonkey]

A response to Azoff's statement...

Brian Caplan of Caplan and Ross, an attorney representing Schnauss? team disagrees, telling Rolling Stone, ?The band and the record company are ultimately responsible for copyright infringement.? He added, ?I can tell you that there is no paper trail authorizing the use of these songs and nobody from the plaintiff?s side authorized the use of this song.?

Rollingstone.com

[Ali]

A response to Azoff's statement...

Brian Caplan of Caplan and Ross, an attorney representing Schnauss? team disagrees, telling Rolling Stone, ?The band and the record company are ultimately responsible for copyright infringement.? He added, ?I can tell you that there is no paper trail authorizing the use of these songs and nobody from the plaintiff?s side authorized the use of this song.?

Rollingstone.com

I think it's obvious this is headed towards an out of court settlement for figure that I'd bet would be significantly less than $1 million.  That is outrageous.

Ali

[HBK]

A response to Azoff's statement...

Brian Caplan of Caplan and Ross, an attorney representing Schnauss? team disagrees, telling Rolling Stone, ?The band and the record company are ultimately responsible for copyright infringement.? He added, ?I can tell you that there is no paper trail authorizing the use of these songs and nobody from the plaintiff?s side authorized the use of this song.?

Rollingstone.com

Well, Well, Well...  GNR Is Dead... Ulrich Rulez...

OMG... This Losers BRIAN CAPUT... You Artist Need Most promotion ? Wait... The TOUR When Play RIAD live.

[mesaboogie]

The rest of the statement reads: "The band believed when the record came out and still believes that there are no unauthorized samples on the track. The snippets of 'ambient noise' in question were provided by a member of the album's production team who has assured us that these few seconds of sound were obtained legitimately. Artists these days can't read the minds of those they collaborate with and therefore are unfortunately vulnerable to claims like this one. While the band resents the implication that they would ever use another artist's work improperly and are assessing possible counterclaims, they are confident this situation will be satisfactorily resolved."

So from reading the above we are being told a guy in production took/wrote/borrowed music and said dont worry about any paper work its all sorted lads! to which the expert Azoff said thats grand dude we trust you...lets go ahead with the distribution of one of the most anticipated albums of all time  I thought this type of thing would be managed a bit more tightly than it appears from the statement above.

[Spirit]

The rest of the statement reads: "The band believed when the record came out and still believes that there are no unauthorized samples on the track. The snippets of 'ambient noise' in question were provided by a member of the album's production team who has assured us that these few seconds of sound were obtained legitimately. Artists these days can't read the minds of those they collaborate with and therefore are unfortunately vulnerable to claims like this one. While the band resents the implication that they would ever use another artist's work improperly and are assessing possible counterclaims, they are confident this situation will be satisfactorily resolved."

So from reading the above we are being told a guy in production took/wrote/borrowed music and said dont worry about any paper work its all sorted lads! to which the expert Azoff said thats grand dude we trust you...lets go ahead with the distribution of one of the most anticipated albums of all time  I thought this type of thing would be managed a bit more tightly than it appears from the statement above.

It also says: "...and still believes that there are no unauthorized samples on the track".

[jarmo]

So from reading the above we are being told a guy in production took/wrote/borrowed music and said dont worry about any paper work its all sorted lads! to which the expert Azoff said thats grand dude we trust you...lets go ahead with the distribution of one of the most anticipated albums of all time  I thought this type of thing would be managed a bit more tightly than it appears from the statement above.

It's virtually impossible to check every single thing on an album like you want.

How do you start? By listening to everything recorded since day one and compare to your new songs?


The Rolling Stones "borrowed" a main part of a song and didn't realize it. It was a big hit too!

Imagine that they didn't manage to check if one of their new songs sounded like something that had been on the radio/MTV a few years earlier.... It wasn't even a bit of the intro.


Seems to me like you're looking for clues that aren't there again.





/jarmo

[draguns]

This definitely is the fault on either Pitman or Dizzy. For an album that took awhile to complete, SOMEONE should have done due diligence. Hopefully, the next album will not have as many problems as CD. 

[Spirit]

This definitely is the fault on either Pitman or Dizzy. For an album that took awhile to complete, SOMEONE should have done due diligence. Hopefully, the next album will not have as many problems as CD. 

The statement reads "The snippets of 'ambient noise' in question were provided by a member of the album's production team.."

My guess is, it was brought in by someone outside the band who were (as it reads) part of the production team.

[jarmo]

This definitely is the fault on either Pitman or Dizzy.

Please provide us with the proof of this claim. Since you state it as a fact, it shouldn't be a problem....


Ignoring the comment from GN'R's management, as pointed out by Spirit...




/jarmo

[D]

Axl needs to release a new album as soon as possible and make CD as distant a memory as possible. The entire album outside of the finished product was a nightmare and a disaster.

[jarmo]

Axl needs to release a new album as soon as possible and make CD as distant a memory as possible. The entire album outside of the finished product was a nightmare and a disaster.

Thanks for your support. 


Why don't you go finish your album?



/jarmo

[HBK]

This definitely is the fault on either Pitman or Dizzy. For an album that took awhile to complete, SOMEONE should have done due diligence. Hopefully, the next album will not have as many problems as CD. 

PITMAN, What,,?

You Read The Statement ??

[Ali]

Axl needs to release a new album as soon as possible and make CD as distant a memory as possible. The entire album outside of the finished product was a nightmare and a disaster.

Thanks for your support. 


Why don't you go finish your album?



/jarmo

That was funny  

I have to disagree, D.  While I see your point that the promotion, or lack thereof, has been a difficult and negative situation for many, I don't want CD to be a distant memory.  I still play the record quite a bit, and frankly, I don't think it should be put to bed until they tour behind it and play more of the album's tracks live.  After that, yes, it will be time to move forward.

Ali

[thomas]

the album came out nov 23 2008 and it took them all this time to sue gnr in october in 2009 something smell and the track does not sound alike

[w.axl.rose]

the album came out nov 23 2008 and it took them all this time to sue gnr in october in 2009 something smell and the track does not sound alike

its not the whole track, just the intro

[D]

Axl himself spoke of how hard it was getting the album finished etc. Numerous lineup changes, label hassles. CD got the monkey off his back, now with DJ he should finish up the leftover songs and get something out next Summer, put the whole CD thing behind him. Its turned into his whale.

I think people are shrugging their shoulders too nonchalantly towards this allegation. I am positive Axl had nothing to do with it, but this kind of accusation can be devastating to a band, especially once u consider the press' hatred for all things Axl anyway.

[jarmo]

I think people are shrugging their shoulders too nonchalantly towards this allegation. I am positive Axl had nothing to do with it, but this kind of accusation can be devastating to a band, especially once u consider the press' hatred for all things Axl anyway.

"Can be devastating". Sure.


But this is a case of sounds in an intro. Not a full song, not a chorus you sing along to, not a guitar melody etc.

Coldplay are still selling out venues as far as I know...



By the way, maybe it's time for you to change your signature now.




/jarmo

[Bigjoe]

This definitely is the fault on either Pitman or Dizzy. For an album that took awhile to complete, SOMEONE should have done due diligence. Hopefully, the next album will not have as many problems as CD. 

Does anybody even know how many people had anything to do with this album? Axl brought in a lot, he might not even remember everybody. Nobody could ever check every little thing on an album with this many people working on it. It looks like to me that this guy heard about a tour starting soon and he wanted to get some publicity off of it.

[thomas]

the album came out nov 23 2008 and it took them all this time to sue gnr in october in 2009 something smell and the track does not sound alike

its not the whole track, just the intro

i know that but they waiting all this time to sue gnr