Brain "probably not" touring

[Jim Bob]

After all these things that happened, I cant believe some of you still have things to whine about. Do you think this is an Axl Rose solo gig? GREAT!!! Get the fuck out of here because this is a GUNS N' ROSES message forum, and GNR is a band, was always a band, and it will always be a band. It doesnt depend on you, whiners, it dependes on Axl and the rest of the guys. YES: Axl will always have the last word. But that's was always that way.

Theres always going to be those kinds of people that will never be satisfied.   The negative types NEED something to bitch about, because its what they thrive on.   They probably just have really shitty personal lives and so going to a fan forum anonomously and bashing the band is a sort of release for them.  I could be wrong and I'm not saying this about any particular person.  You see it much worse on other sites.   

[Jdog0830]

Estebanf I could not have said it better myself people just need to deal with reality and that reality is one where GNR comes back and kicks the shit out of the haters!!!!

[younggunner]

Younggunner seems to enjoy it when things go off topic. He's like that. He comes in, does his whining and then disappears until next time when he does the same thing again.

Not really. I said I was disapointed to hear the news of Brain probably not returning. I then went on to say that in my opinion this really is just an Axl Rose gig nowadays. Which is a perfectly fine statement...especially in this thread.  You decided to challenge that statement.

You can do one of two things. Ignore it or counter it. Its fine with me either way.

[Jim Bob]

Not really. I said I was disapointed to hear the news of Brain probably not returning. I then went on to say that in my opinion this really is just an Axl Rose gig nowadays. Which is a perfectlyblatantly fine  false statement...especially in this thread.  You decided to challenge that statement.

fixed it for ya 

[Fernando]

Is it just me or is this "younggunner" a lover of being a nuisance?

Shit man, if you can't be constructive - don't come shit on someone else's good time, just because you are bitter.  Just comes out quite annoying, and aggravating.


Less of  - More of 

[PJ]

yeah because everything deserves a 








 
1984 kinda shit

[Limulus]

but still he is right with the problem of the changing band members. people (exspecially younger ones) like to identify (etc.) with the band members and some constant line-up and become fans also of their personalities up to the live-experience where it goes kinda like: "the heroes from my fave album come to my town, hell yes!!".
not to blame this on anyone band related but this point simply doesnt work with CD but did work for older GN'R albums.
and having one originally member left only IS and always will be an issue, too, "it is what it is".

and as we're also into the setlists again ( ).......i hope they dont "feel" to open with jungle, easy and brownstone this time 

as for Brain/Frank and live touring: i think Brain is more like the "cooler" guy to watch performingwise but musically Frank fits more into them playing-/musicwise. and i've seen them live both with Axl.

[Jim Bob]

having one originally member left only IS and always will be an issue, too, "it is what it is".

Its really not anymore.  Its been that way since 1997, thats 12 years!!!   I think all involved have moved on, the rest should do the same.   Are you people going to just stay mad about stupid shit you can't control all your life?  Its sad.

People can either accept GnR for what it is in the year 2009, or not.  You(not you personally, but the collective) have every right not too, but you shouldn't have the right to go on fan boards and try to bring down the spirits of those of us who support the band.   Most of us are really tired of the old gnr vs gnr arguments.

and as we're also into the setlists again ( ).......i hope they dont "feel" to open with jungle, easy and brownstone this time 

Its a great opening combo of songs, if it ain't broke, dont' fix it.

as for Brain/Frank and live touring: i think Brain is more like the "cooler" guy to watch performingwise but musically Frank fits more into them playing-/musicwise. and i've seen them live both with Axl.

I'm happy with either one.

Is it just me or is this "younggunner" a lover of being a nuisance?

Pretty much..

Less of  - More of 

agreed 

[Limulus]

as usual you left out the main point and quoted only parts of my post you can jump on including some small bashing and telling others what to do. i didnt expect it otherwise from a dude spreading his hate to former band members and fans from other line-ups though.

[jacdaniel]

Ozzy has had far more stable bands than GNR currently have under the name "Ozzy Osbourne".  
Zakk Wylde played with Ozzy for 19 years.  Rhandy Rhoads made 2 classic albums with him.

Point is, Ozzy never had the burden of a band name, and its possible that Axl would do a lot better if he just called this "Axl".

Wheter you agree with that or not, its worked out quite well for Ozzy!  The band name has its perks and its burdens.

This whole "Recording band" vs "touring band" argument is bullshit to me.  a band should just be.... well, a band!  
You write, record, then tour.  The more parties that get involved, the more complex it gets.

[jarmo]

as usual you left out the main point and quoted only parts of my post you can jump on including some small bashing and telling others what to do. i didnt expect it otherwise from a dude spreading his hate to former band members and fans from other line-ups though.

We don't expect anything from people like you who can't seem to get over a few simple facts. And keep going on and on about the same shit for years because they can't get what they want.

People who rarely have anything positive to contribute but who for example are happy to whine about setlists for shows they never even intended to attend.

People who even take a thread like this and use it to whine about the same shit they've been whining about for years.

They all sound the same. Just change the former member's name. It doesn't matter who they are fans of, the so called fans sound the same.



/jarmo

[Voodoochild]

Point is, Ozzy never had the burden of a band name, and its possible that Axl would do a lot better if he just called this "Axl".

Wheter you agree with that or not, its worked out quite well for Ozzy!  The band name has its perks and its burdens.

wow, what a nice way to try to push the thread to the Dead Horse section.

Wasnt this already discussed to death a gazillion times? God, let it go already. It's not the same thing, its GNR. Fuck this Axl Rose solo thing, its a fucking band, like it or not.

[jarmo]

What do you expect from people with that kind of personal quotes?

 




/jarmo

[jacdaniel]

Point is, Ozzy never had the burden of a band name, and its possible that Axl would do a lot better if he just called this "Axl".

Wheter you agree with that or not, its worked out quite well for Ozzy!  The band name has its perks and its burdens.

wow, what a nice way to try to push the thread to the Dead Horse section.

Wasnt this already discussed to death a gazillion times? God, let it go already. It's not the same thing, its GNR. Fuck this Axl Rose solo thing, its a fucking band, like it or not.

Never once said i didnt like it.

Just pointed out how one method worked SO well for one person.   

[Limulus]

as usual you left out the main point and quoted only parts of my post you can jump on including some small bashing and telling others what to do. i didnt expect it otherwise from a dude spreading his hate to former band members and fans from other line-ups though.

We don't expect anything from people like you who can't seem to get over a few simple facts. And keep going on and on about the same shit for years because they can't get what they want.

People who rarely have anything positive to contribute but who for example are happy to whine about setlists for shows they never even intended to attend.

People who even take a thread like this and use it to whine about the same shit they've been whining about for years.

They all sound the same. Just change the former member's name. It doesn't matter who they are fans of, the so called fans sound the same.



/jarmo

nice generalization filled by hostility (again) to other fans. doesnt change a shit that the 1 member stuff is fact and this fact remains. but that was only a little part of my thoughts i've added to your discussion the last 1-2 sides of this topic, the main part was overlooked by that full of hatred Jimbobobby and thats where this hostility got in.
and once again there are people who do care about setlists and make them a factor of their plans of attending multiple shows, Jarmo, you have to accept that.

[sofine11]

Go spend your time in the Dead Horse section. You're about as interesting as all those who still live in the 1900s.....

Weird.  Glancing at the news section, you used to be pretty hung up on the 1900s as well.  Then out of nowhere around 2006 it all just...stopped.   Change of heart I guess.

I love the new band and CD is in my top ten albums of all time, but if being a "real fan" means denying all former members the way Mel Gibson denies the holocaust, well that's a party I dont know I want to be a part of.  You know, there really can be a middleground and not everything, opinions or otherwise, have to be preached as extreme gospel.

[jacdaniel]

Weird.  Glancing at the news section, you used to be pretty hung up on the 1900s as well.  Then out of nowhere around 2006 it all just...stopped.   Change of heart I guess.

I love the new band and CD is in my top ten albums of all time, but if being a "real fan" means denying all former members the way Mel Gibson denies the holocaust, well that's a party I dont know I want to be a part of.  You know, there really can be a middleground and not everything has to be preached as extreme gospel.

Dont worry, it amazes me too!  any praise of the former members is not appreciated on here.
We cant question anything ever either or we're band haters lol.

The real negativity set in after the Del James interview.

[jarmo]

nice generalization filled by hostility (again) to other fans.

Talk about generalization.

"Other fans"?

More like a select few "other fans" who whine and whine and whine.

Why don't you just stand for the shit you say?

If you keep posting negative shit year after year, somebody will notice.

You and your kind just expect to get away with it because it's "your opinion". It doesn't work like that here.

That's the so called "hostility to other fans". Being held accountable for the negativity you like to spread.

doesnt change a shit that the 1 member stuff is fact and this fact remains.

Holy shit! Could you tell us more about this?

I'm sure nobody else on a Guns N' Roses fan site is aware of the band's history to date!

What a revelation.


Unfortunately, you keep talking about it like it's something nobody is aware of at all. Like it's the most exciting thing you can come up with!

I guess if you're fucking stuck in that mode it must be. 

A hint: WE KNOW!

and once again there are people who do care about setlists and make them a factor of their plans of attending multiple shows, Jarmo, you have to accept that.

Sure, but what does that have to do with this topic? Nothing.

It's just something you like to whine about.

Dont worry, it amazes me too!  any praise of the former members is not appreciated on here.

It's called the ex-Gunners section. Go look for it. I'm sure you can manage.



Other times, it's called Dead Horse.

That's where nine out of ten posts these kinds of fans make belong.

Weird.  Glancing at the news section, you used to be pretty hung up on the 1900s as well.  Then out of nowhere around 2006 it all just...stopped.   Change of heart I guess.

Don't feel like promoting people who tried to make sure there was no Guns N' Roses. Pretty simple.


You and your group often make the assumption that we deny the past. Hilarious.

I guess just because we don't love the former members clothing lines or reality TV shows we "deny the past".


Once again, DEAD HORSE material.





/jarmo