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« Reply #60 on: May 26, 2009, 01:25:58 AM »

I saw the movie Saturday night. The scene with "YCBM" was pretty cool. I had a big grin on my face as soon as I heard it. And considering there's only like two real songs in the movie (the other being Alice in Chains), its a moment that really stands out.
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« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2009, 01:30:23 PM »

Totally. I wasn't sure before hand what part of the song was going to be used, and when the scene starts its during just a  music part, and I was just thinking "come on, let me hear Axl, let me here Axl..." And, of course we do, and it is great.

Just a quick response to a poster a bit earlier. T2 is great (especially at the time) but, it is much further removed from T1 then the new one is. The first was almost horror. Dark, gritty, and kick ass. Not a lot of jokes, and humor. This is what makes the new one great. T2 was really really silly. Not as silly and stupid as T3, but, silly. Now, Robert Patrick and Hamilton helped to offset this but still. T1 is by far the best, but for what I like most about it, Terminator Salvation, is the next best.
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« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2009, 09:19:12 PM »

Loved the movie, thought it was great and of course the GNR scene was pretty cool!!!
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« Reply #63 on: May 26, 2009, 09:26:27 PM »

loved the movie as well... how cool would if be if they make another YCBM music video  hihi
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« Reply #64 on: May 27, 2009, 02:45:46 AM »

loved the movie as well... how cool would if be if they make another YCBM music video  hihi

How bout that "Better" video 1st lol, movie was good the 2nd time i seen it.
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« Reply #65 on: May 29, 2009, 11:06:55 PM »

the rooster moment had a bigger significance
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« Reply #66 on: June 03, 2009, 04:33:38 AM »

its not gonna be a re-recorded version of the track, right?


that would be cool


Why on earth anyone would want a re-recorded version of a classic GNR song is beyond me  Roll Eyes ...


Like the SCOM they had in Big Daddy. Worst recording of a GNR track ever, perhaps.

its not gonna be a re-recorded version of the track, right?


that would be cool


Why on earth anyone would want a re-recorded version of a classic GNR song is beyond me  Roll Eyes ...

Why do people go see remakes of classic films?  Why do they listen to redo's of classic music from other artists (like, for example, GNR's versions of Knockin on Heaven's door and Live an Let Die)?  Why do people go see movies made based on books?

It's frequently intersting to see another artists take, or the same artists take at a different point in their life/career, of older material.

What I meant was, in the context of the terminator movie 'legacy', why would anyone prefer a re-recorded version over the classic original version, used in Terminator II.  It's a 'wink' to that movie, that era.  Myself, as a fan of those movies, I'd prefer the original (even more so considering the actual album UYI II is apparently involved).

I couldn't care less however many classic GNR songs Axl plays in concert nowadays, that's a whole different context.  I'd prefer they played their own songs though, with maybe a couple classics thrown in for good measure in the encores or whatever.  But that's a different discussion.

When you're talking about other artists doing GNR songs, or GNR doing other people's songs, that's a cover, you know damn well that's not the same scenario as what we're talking about here.  I still don't see why anyone wants to hear Axl's band re-record the classics, they should make or break it with their own stuff.  I know they re-recorded AFD in the studio as a rehearsal to get the songs down better, and I can understand that from that point of view.  Anything else is unnecessary in my book, but hey, like someone said here, to each his own !

And yes, I'm aware Motley Crue did the very same thing, it's not because I like a band that I agree with everything they do.  If that was the case, I'd have a big problem being a GNR fan...  Grin

As has Bon Jovi.  As has Springsteen. As has Aerosmith.  As have countless other artists, who revisit their "classic" material, later in their careers, and re-record it with a different take/styling.  And people buy it/listen to it.  YOU might not....which is fine...but I'm not sure how you apply that to "anyone" else.

And while I see your initial point (that you'd want the original so it would be a true "homage" to T2), you could make the counter point that, as it's YEARS later, if there were a different version around, it would be a nice nostalgic homage that would still fit in the more "current" (in terms of the movie) setting.  It could go either way.

And so has Guns N' Roses with SCOM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtovs6HhFO8

For the Big Daddy soundtrack in '99, they used segments of the Live Era track and re-recorded the rest.

I was a big fan of Terminator, so I'll see this eventually.
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« Reply #67 on: June 03, 2009, 04:23:39 PM »



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« Reply #68 on: June 03, 2009, 06:23:53 PM »

holy shit i hated that movie lol

dont know how you guys could like that
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« Reply #69 on: June 03, 2009, 07:04:37 PM »

Just a quick response to a poster a bit earlier. T2 is great (especially at the time) but, it is much further removed from T1 then the new one is. The first was almost horror. Dark, gritty, and kick ass. Not a lot of jokes, and humor. This is what makes the new one great. T2 was really really silly. Not as silly and stupid as T3, but, silly. Now, Robert Patrick and Hamilton helped to offset this but still. T1 is by far the best, but for what I like most about it, Terminator Salvation, is the next best.
While T2 does indeed lack some of the lovely ominous vibe of it's predecessor, it' deffo an overstatement to call it silly!
You got "hasta la vista baby " in one scale and nightmares of a nuclear apocalypse in another...
T2 is simply a very beautiful movie! In very literal sense too; cinematography of it is utter bliss through and through. Nobody is better at handling night/dark scenes than Cameron. The ever present cold-blue glow in T2 has something very charming in it.

It takes Cameron to manage action scenes this cool;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx2_IUZYOds&feature=related
5:30 to 7:30 is the most perfect action scene Hollywood has ever managed, I kid yo not!

It is such a shame Cameron is too busy being a Titanic investigating, tomb of Jesus finding FUCKING IMPORTANT PERSON to make a decent action flick these days.

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« Reply #70 on: June 03, 2009, 09:23:04 PM »

I'm sorry, but I need to chime in on this off-topic topic and respond to the blasphemy...

Terminator 2 is the GREATEST action movie of all time. The T1000 is the greatest action movie villain of all time. And YCBM fits that movie perfectly. Please rewatch it if you forgot how awesome that movie was and remember that it came out in the early 90's and the impact that it had.

It is the AFD of action movies!
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« Reply #71 on: June 04, 2009, 05:01:07 AM »

I'm sorry, but I need to chime in on this off-topic topic and respond to the blasphemy...

Terminator 2 is the GREATEST action movie of all time. The T1000 is the greatest action movie villain of all time. And YCBM fits that movie perfectly. Please rewatch it if you forgot how awesome that movie was and remember that it came out in the early 90's and the impact that it had.

It is the AFD of action movies!

Totally agree, Cameron it's the action movies king. The action scenes are really good in this film. Have a lot of details.  ok drool
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« Reply #72 on: June 04, 2009, 06:41:34 AM »

I'm sorry, but I need to chime in on this off-topic topic and respond to the blasphemy...

Terminator 2 is the GREATEST action movie of all time. The T1000 is the greatest action movie villain of all time. And YCBM fits that movie perfectly. Please rewatch it if you forgot how awesome that movie was and remember that it came out in the early 90's and the impact that it had.

It is the AFD of action movies!

I have the "liquid metal" edition on DVD and watch it regularly...or did until I recently picked up the Blu-ray version.  Now I watch that, instead. Smiley  I don't know if it is the SINGLE greatest action movie...but it's certainly in the top 10...maybe even top 5.  Die Hard, Raiders of the Lost Arc, Aliens all win out over T2.  Gladiator's close....
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« Reply #73 on: June 04, 2009, 05:50:36 PM »

First off, yes the T 1000 is awesome in T2. Best villiian ever in an action movie... not by a long shot. That title belongs to Hans Gruber. Best villian and in the best action movie. Die Hard is the top of the food chain, Cr?me de la Cr?me of action films. You want to go sci fi then you still have to bow down to Darth Vader. T1000 is still great though.

I said T2 is a bit silly because there are things that do not make sense in the universe created by Cameron himself and as a Terminator fan bug the shit out of me in T2. Examples. Why the fuck does the Terminator become so obsessed over wanting to wear sunglasses? Was his eye fucked up looking and needed to cover up the fact that he had to remove his eyeball like in the first. Makes no sense and is silly. I can accept that Skynet found a way around needing to send something that wasn't encased in human tissue through the time machine. But I can't accept a fucking dog running around Arnold's T800 in Mexico and not reacting at all to him. Dogs bark like motherfucking crazy around these machine. This is a well known Cameron established rule. How about the fact that we see Terminators ability to mimic any voice, also seen in T2, yet the T1000 needs Sarah to "Call to" John. Can't he just do it himself like he did earlier in the movie? And I just do not like Arnold one liners in my Terminator movies like silly shit like "I need a veecation)". Really? Silly Silly Silly. Silly as T3? Not by a long shot. But silly. The movie is still great and is a cool ass guy movie but, it doesn't hold a candle to the first film.


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« Reply #74 on: June 05, 2009, 02:39:45 AM »

Just saw it.

The movie is far from what it COULD have been as the actors, budget and timeline was all there, but McG kindda dropped the ball. That said, there are some great scenes and some hardcore, visceral moments that any Terminator nut (like myself) will appreciate.

Sam Worthington is great and the story (overall) is good. The execution is muddled though, left to chance and cluttered. Shame.

Bale is fantastic as Connor. Enough with the "he just does Batman again"... He nails it. The drive and action scenes are real, in your face and anti-CGI for the most part. Loved them. Worth the ticket.

Buuuuuut.. the best scene?

Ha!

The YCBM scene !

It's AWESOME  Cool

Absolute a steal! It's great any which way - not just for GnR fans.

Really awesome, firing up an old UYI cassette and doing what he does.

Ties it neatly with T2.

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« Reply #75 on: June 05, 2009, 06:08:30 AM »


Why the fuck does the Terminator become so obsessed over wanting to wear sunglasses? Was his eye fucked up looking and needed to cover up the fact that he had to remove his eyeball like in the first. Makes no sense and is silly


Awww, come on, It doesn't take much fanboiness to justify it!
During the  beta testing of t-800, Skynet perhaps came to a conclusion that eyes and/or  way they behave when T-800 is scanning it's surroundings is more inhuman than rest of the robot. Thus, each unit comes with pile of 1's and 0's dictating it to pursue sun glasses or other natural means of concealament when available Tongue

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How about the fact that we see Terminators ability to mimic any voice, also seen in T2, yet the T1000 needs Sarah to "Call to" John. Can't he just do it himself like he did earlier in the movie?


By that point T-1000 was severly damaged and perhaps unsure wether or not it can produce a satisfactory version of Sarah's voice.

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« Reply #76 on: June 05, 2009, 01:24:19 PM »

Nice work L2D. Fine, whatever. But explain the damn dog running around the T 800 wagging his tail having a great old time. I like your explanations so please do your thing with this mystery. Don't mistake my nitpicks for not liking the film by the way. I just ordered the latest cut on Blu Ray that just came out. Anyway, let's hear it L2D.
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« Reply #77 on: June 05, 2009, 02:26:42 PM »

Nice work L2D. Fine, whatever. But explain the damn dog running around the T 800 wagging his tail having a great old time. I like your explanations so please do your thing with this mystery. Don't mistake my nitpicks for not liking the film by the way. I just ordered the latest cut on Blu Ray that just came out. Anyway, let's hear it L2D.

The future T-800's were coated in a layer of doggie pheremones and their complex "skin" was made to smell like a mixture of fire hydrant and dog butt.

Nah, I bet L2D can come up with better....
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« Reply #78 on: June 05, 2009, 02:59:30 PM »

You know L2D. Here I sit at work and your answers came to mind again... It just doesn't hold any water. I will accept a machine with liquid metal and not human skin making it through a time machine. He was a prototype and maybe skynet figured out this glitch. I accept your answer regarding the T1000 being damaged, I guess when he was frozen and broken up losing his sound copying modulator whatever. But, the sunglass thing... no. In that future, the machines, the T 800 and the T1000 were sent within minutes after Reese and the first T800 were sent back. And the first T800 never gave a fuck about needing sunglasses until his human tissue eye was damaged and he needed something to cover it up. There was no time for the T800 in the second to have been given a new code. He was sent back right after the first one.

Oh, and still eagerly anticipating your answer to the dog.


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« Reply #79 on: June 05, 2009, 05:15:59 PM »

Ah well, machine's gotta have it's priorities Tongue
It's not like the t-800 of the second movie goes shopping for sun glasses either! The opportunity to acquire a pair just presents itself.

Perhaps the whole eye/face-camo is a low priority;
Go shopping for sunglasses=No
Steal a pair if unlucky bastard you are already interacting with has em=Yes

Also! Let's not forget they are infiltrator units. They must have a line or two of  of " What's hot and what's not" hard coded in them for the sake of blending in the community. With that in mind, is it an impossible thought that T-800 got all  queer eyed and figured the sun glasses would go well with his leather biker pants?  Tongue
If memory serves the T-800 of first movie had  all sorts stuff on it that was at least as unnecessary as sunglasses.

I can't and don't want to provide any bullshit fanboi reasoning to the dog thing, for that sounds stupid!
Are you sure about this though?
I don't recall any T-800 scenes involving dogs in T2.

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