Guns N' Roses YCBM is in Terminator Salvation

[uzisuicide2002]

Just seen the movie. BIG let down.  GN'R scene was cool.

[Nikki_Sixx]

its not gonna be a re-recorded version of the track, right?

that would be cool

Why on earth anyone would want a re-recorded version of a classic GNR song is beyond me  ...

Why do people go see remakes of classic films?  Why do they listen to redo's of classic music from other artists (like, for example, GNR's versions of Knockin on Heaven's door and Live an Let Die)?  Why do people go see movies made based on books?

It's frequently intersting to see another artists take, or the same artists take at a different point in their life/career, of older material.

What I meant was, in the context of the terminator movie 'legacy', why would anyone prefer a re-recorded version over the classic original version, used in Terminator II.  It's a 'wink' to that movie, that era.  Myself, as a fan of those movies, I'd prefer the original (even more so considering the actual album UYI II is apparently involved).

I couldn't care less however many classic GNR songs Axl plays in concert nowadays, that's a whole different context.  I'd prefer they played their own songs though, with maybe a couple classics thrown in for good measure in the encores or whatever.  But that's a different discussion.

When you're talking about other artists doing GNR songs, or GNR doing other people's songs, that's a cover, you know damn well that's not the same scenario as what we're talking about here.  I still don't see why anyone wants to hear Axl's band re-record the classics, they should make or break it with their own stuff.  I know they re-recorded AFD in the studio as a rehearsal to get the songs down better, and I can understand that from that point of view.  Anything else is unnecessary in my book, but hey, like someone said here, to each his own !

And yes, I'm aware Motley Crue did the very same thing, it's not because I like a band that I agree with everything they do.  If that was the case, I'd have a big problem being a GNR fan... 

[gilld1]

Just seen the movie. BIG let down.  GN'R scene was cool.

What didn't you like about it?  Was it a case of too high of expectations?

Just curious.

[EstrangedBrazil]

its not gonna be a re-recorded version of the track, right?

that would be cool

Why on earth anyone would want a re-recorded version of a classic GNR song is beyond me  ...

Why do people go see remakes of classic films?  Why do they listen to redo's of classic music from other artists (like, for example, GNR's versions of Knockin on Heaven's door and Live an Let Die)?  Why do people go see movies made based on books?

It's frequently intersting to see another artists take, or the same artists take at a different point in their life/career, of older material.

What I meant was, in the context of the terminator movie 'legacy', why would anyone prefer a re-recorded version over the classic original version, used in Terminator II.  It's a 'wink' to that movie, that era.  Myself, as a fan of those movies, I'd prefer the original (even more so considering the actual album UYI II is apparently involved).

I couldn't care less however many classic GNR songs Axl plays in concert nowadays, that's a whole different context.  I'd prefer they played their own songs though, with maybe a couple classics thrown in for good measure in the encores or whatever.  But that's a different discussion.

When you're talking about other artists doing GNR songs, or GNR doing other people's songs, that's a cover, you know damn well that's not the same scenario as what we're talking about here.  I still don't see why anyone wants to hear Axl's band re-record the classics, they should make or break it with their own stuff.  I know they re-recorded AFD in the studio as a rehearsal to get the songs down better, and I can understand that from that point of view.  Anything else is unnecessary in my book, but hey, like someone said here, to each his own !

And yes, I'm aware Motley Crue did the very same thing, it's not because I like a band that I agree with everything they do.  If that was the case, I'd have a big problem being a GNR fan... 

i still think it would be awesome to hear the new members' studio version of YCBM. and even the re-recorded AFD.

we'll agree to disagree

[uzisuicide2002]

Just seen the movie. BIG let down.  GN'R scene was cool.

What didn't you like about it?  Was it a case of too high of expectations?

Just curious.

YES, its was not how i was thinking it was going to go. I mean it has its moments. it didn't feel like a Termintor movie. Alot of that has to do with no Arnold in it. And did little to set up  what happens in T1 and T2. 

[Mysteron]

Just seen the movie. BIG let down.  GN'R scene was cool.

That's sad to hear.

I am a fan of the Terminator series and of Christian Bale. I'll be seeing the movie next week, let's see what happens

[FunkyMonkey]

From MTV (*possible spoiler*)...

May 21 2009 3:07

'Terminator Salvation': Five Things To Look Out For

You Could Be Mine...Again? - In one pivotal scene, John Connor uses a boom box to attract the attention of a Moto-Terminator. His music of choice? Guns N' Roses' hit song "You Could Be Mine," an early '90s classic that featured prominently in "Terminator 2" and resulted in a now-classic video that had Axl, Slash and the gang meeting Arnold Schwarzenegger but being dubbed a "waste of ammo." Trust us, kids ? back in 1991, it was a really big deal.

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1611954/story.jhtml

[Buddha_Master]

Letdown? So, was this not a guerilla war movie with Man vs. the machines? Did the machines not resemble terminator endoskeletons? Was Skynet not the ones manufacturing said terminators? Was there not a lot of robots fighting humans in this? Was John Connor not kicking some ass in this? Was it serious and with not a lot of stupid one liners and joking around? Was it action packed and not boring?

Because this is what I expect out of a Terminator movie taking place 14 years or so after Judgment Day. I want to see some of the war. That is what I have been wanting to see since the first and clearly still the best one. I am a huge fan of the first Terminator film. What the hell were you thinking it was going to be uzisuicide2002? Because it seems to me, this film is giving me a huge fan service and doing exactly what I could have possibly wanted it to do. I have my tickets and seeing it tomorrow night so I will see for myself soon enough.

[jarmo]

I think you should take the movie talk to the right section.

Not everybody wants movie spoilers in the GN'R section...

Thanks.



/jarmo

[Aflack47]

Just watched Terminator Salvation....Yes YCBM was in the movie, and it was not a re-record....and ..."a little bit of arnold"....in the movie....hope that dose't spoil too much....bad ass cgi/visual effects.....good story line...and room for sequel(s)....I nearly yelled,"Hell Yeah!" when YCBM came on...but there were like 12 people in the theater...went to the 4:45 show here in kansas city....peace everyone.

[bailyrose]

i also just saw the movie and yes y.c.b.m. was in it.the movie was awsome i reconmend everybody see it.

[uzisuicide2002]

ok just seen it a 2nd time with afew more friends. LIKED it alot more the 2nd time...picked up on afew things the 2nd time i didn't see the 1st. 

[pilferk]

its not gonna be a re-recorded version of the track, right?

that would be cool

Why on earth anyone would want a re-recorded version of a classic GNR song is beyond me  ...

Why do people go see remakes of classic films?  Why do they listen to redo's of classic music from other artists (like, for example, GNR's versions of Knockin on Heaven's door and Live an Let Die)?  Why do people go see movies made based on books?

It's frequently intersting to see another artists take, or the same artists take at a different point in their life/career, of older material.

What I meant was, in the context of the terminator movie 'legacy', why would anyone prefer a re-recorded version over the classic original version, used in Terminator II.  It's a 'wink' to that movie, that era.  Myself, as a fan of those movies, I'd prefer the original (even more so considering the actual album UYI II is apparently involved).

I couldn't care less however many classic GNR songs Axl plays in concert nowadays, that's a whole different context.  I'd prefer they played their own songs though, with maybe a couple classics thrown in for good measure in the encores or whatever.  But that's a different discussion.

When you're talking about other artists doing GNR songs, or GNR doing other people's songs, that's a cover, you know damn well that's not the same scenario as what we're talking about here.  I still don't see why anyone wants to hear Axl's band re-record the classics, they should make or break it with their own stuff.  I know they re-recorded AFD in the studio as a rehearsal to get the songs down better, and I can understand that from that point of view.  Anything else is unnecessary in my book, but hey, like someone said here, to each his own !

And yes, I'm aware Motley Crue did the very same thing, it's not because I like a band that I agree with everything they do.  If that was the case, I'd have a big problem being a GNR fan... 

As has Bon Jovi.  As has Springsteen. As has Aerosmith.  As have countless other artists, who revisit their "classic" material, later in their careers, and re-record it with a different take/styling.  And people buy it/listen to it.  YOU might not....which is fine...but I'm not sure how you apply that to "anyone" else.

And while I see your initial point (that you'd want the original so it would be a true "homage" to T2), you could make the counter point that, as it's YEARS later, if there were a different version around, it would be a nice nostalgic homage that would still fit in the more "current" (in terms of the movie) setting.  It could go either way.

[freddiebrph]

its not gonna be a re-recorded version of the track, right?

that would be cool

Why on earth anyone would want a re-recorded version of a classic GNR song is beyond me  ...

Why do people go see remakes of classic films?  Why do they listen to redo's of classic music from other artists (like, for example, GNR's versions of Knockin on Heaven's door and Live an Let Die)?  Why do people go see movies made based on books?

It's frequently intersting to see another artists take, or the same artists take at a different point in their life/career, of older material.

What I meant was, in the context of the terminator movie 'legacy', why would anyone prefer a re-recorded version over the classic original version, used in Terminator II.  It's a 'wink' to that movie, that era.  Myself, as a fan of those movies, I'd prefer the original (even more so considering the actual album UYI II is apparently involved).

I couldn't care less however many classic GNR songs Axl plays in concert nowadays, that's a whole different context.  I'd prefer they played their own songs though, with maybe a couple classics thrown in for good measure in the encores or whatever.  But that's a different discussion.

When you're talking about other artists doing GNR songs, or GNR doing other people's songs, that's a cover, you know damn well that's not the same scenario as what we're talking about here.  I still don't see why anyone wants to hear Axl's band re-record the classics, they should make or break it with their own stuff.  I know they re-recorded AFD in the studio as a rehearsal to get the songs down better, and I can understand that from that point of view.  Anything else is unnecessary in my book, but hey, like someone said here, to each his own !

And yes, I'm aware Motley Crue did the very same thing, it's not because I like a band that I agree with everything they do.  If that was the case, I'd have a big problem being a GNR fan... 

As has Bon Jovi.  As has Springsteen. As has Aerosmith.  As have countless other artists, who revisit their "classic" material, later in their careers, and re-record it with a different take/styling.  And people buy it/listen to it.  YOU might not....which is fine...but I'm not sure how you apply that to "anyone" else.

And while I see your initial point (that you'd want the original so it would be a true "homage" to T2), you could make the counter point that, as it's YEARS later, if there were a different version around, it would be a nice nostalgic homage that would still fit in the more "current" (in terms of the movie) setting.  It could go either way.

but this current line up has NOTHING TO DO with that classic.  I would like to hear the band who wrote that song do it, but I can hear another band cover it any night at any local bar.  Nostalgic?  That would mean the original band getting back together to play the songs they wrote and made famous. 

[pilferk]

but this current line up has NOTHING TO DO with that classic.  I would like to hear the band who wrote that song do it, but I can hear another band cover it any night at any local bar.  Nostalgic?  That would mean the original band getting back together to play the songs they wrote and made famous. 

Which, of course, brings us back to what I suspect is the REAL reason for many (not all, but many) of the objections here:  People don't want to consider this incarnation of the band as the "real" Guns n Roses. 

And again, opinions are going to vary on that subject.....though I think that debate is likely a good way to get the thread dumped into "dead horse".

As for "the band that wrote the song": The writing credits go to Stradlin and Rose for YCBM.

I'm just sayin'......

[freddiebrph]

but this current line up has NOTHING TO DO with that classic.  I would like to hear the band who wrote that song do it, but I can hear another band cover it any night at any local bar.  Nostalgic?  That would mean the original band getting back together to play the songs they wrote and made famous. 

Which, of course, brings us back to what I suspect is the REAL reason for many (not all, but many) of the objections here:  People don't want to consider this incarnation of the band as the "real" Guns n Roses. 

And again, opinions are going to vary on that subject.....though I think that debate is likely a good way to get the thread dumped into "dead horse".

As for "the band that wrote the song": The writing credits go to Stradlin and Rose for YCBM.

I'm just sayin'......

You are correct.  I view this band as a new version.  I just cant consider it gnr. Thats just me.  nugnr!  If you remember, wayyyy back when Axl came back at the vma's, he even said it was going to be hard to do. "this has never been done before"  Its just hard for me, and obviosly tons of other fans, to just see Axl on stage with a totallly different band calling it gnr. I was lucky enough to grow up with the real thing.  Seeing them in 1988, then that huge tour in 1992. It just created so many memories and I loved THAT band. no matter how good this new band is, and I really like chinese d., its just never going to be gnr for me. Just my opinion.

[pilferk]

You are correct.  I view this band as a new version.  I just cant consider it gnr. Thats just me.  nugnr!  If you remember, wayyyy back when Axl came back at the vma's, he even said it was going to be hard to do. "this has never been done before"  Its just hard for me, and obviosly tons of other fans, to just see Axl on stage with a totallly different band calling it gnr. I was lucky enough to grow up with the real thing.  Seeing them in 1988, then that huge tour in 1992. It just created so many memories and I loved THAT band. no matter how good this new band is, and I really like chinese d., its just never going to be gnr for me. Just my opinion.

I grew up with them, too.  Got a bootleg of "Live like a Suicide" from my uncle who lived in L.A.   Saw them opening for Aerosmith. Saw the Steven version, the Matt version, and the "post Izzy" version. And I've seen them twice since 2002.  The whole nine yards.

The point being, opinions differ...and they're not based on "longevity" or being a "true fan" or anything like that. But, it seems to always come down to this fundamental difference...and since the argument IS so played out, it tends to get things moved to "dead horse". 

[jarmo]

its just never going to be gnr for me. Just my opinion.

I'm so surprised and shocked to hear that from you.... 



And with that, discussion over. As pilferk pointed out, it's Dead Horse material.






/jarmo

[draguns]

I saw the new Terminator movie today. For me, the best part was the scene with You Could Be Mine. Otherwise, it was ok.  Wait till the DVD comes out.

[Jim Bob]

but this current line up has NOTHING TO DO with that classic.  I would like to hear the band who wrote that song do it, but I can hear another band cover it any night at any local bar.  Nostalgic?  That would mean the original band getting back together to play the songs they wrote and made famous. 

Which, of course, brings us back to what I suspect is the REAL reason for many (not all, but many) of the objections here:  People don't want to consider this incarnation of the band as the "real" Guns n Roses. 

And again, opinions are going to vary on that subject.....though I think that debate is likely a good way to get the thread dumped into "dead horse".

As for "the band that wrote the song": The writing credits go to Stradlin and Rose for YCBM.

I'm just sayin'......

You are correct.  I view this band as a new version.  I just cant consider it gnr. Thats just me.  nugnr!  If you remember, wayyyy back when Axl came back at the vma's, he even said it was going to be hard to do. "this has never been done before"  Its just hard for me, and obviosly tons of other fans, to just see Axl on stage with a totallly different band calling it gnr. I was lucky enough to grow up with the real thing.  Seeing them in 1988, then that huge tour in 1992. It just created so many memories and I loved THAT band. no matter how good this new band is, and I really like chinese d., its just never going to be gnr for me. Just my opinion.

perhaps you should find the nearest bridge and jump off it.