Guns n Roses in Israel, October 09?

[Albert S Miller]

I'm not disappointed either way, when the time is right, we will all have our turn, until then go back to doing what you were doing before, cuz it never happened right  .

[Ulises]

I hope Guns N' Roses hit the road in the near time.


If I learned something is wait until the date is announced on the official site. Kobetasonik Festival seemed to be a fact and then Beta dismissed all those rumours.

[SMFS]

I doubt the new band can bring 50.000 people as well (exept the old band of course),

When there will be the moment to stop calling Guns N' Roses ''a new band''? I mean, this LINEUP is not ''new'' anymore, they did more than a hundred shows, tons of sellouts, recorded (at least) one incredible album and they work together for a decade or so.

One of their lead guitarists joined the band last month. The other one joined 3 years ago.

[4tus phenomenon]

No, Richard Fortus joined 7 years ago. Even almost 8 years ago because contrary to what people know, he didn"t join in 2002 but in late 2001. He also could have joined in 2000 instead of Buckethead (wich, in my opinion, would have been the best thing that could have happened to the new line-up) Richard Fortus was there before Buckethead, he played with the band (especially Tommy, Dizzy and Josh Freeze) way before Buckethead.

And for the "new band" thing, it's just what it is. Together for a decade? not really, they aren't the same guys than at RIR 2001.

There have been 6 guitarists in the band since 2001 : Paul Tobias (1996-2001), Robin Finck (1996-2007), Buckethead(2000-2001 and 2002-2004, he left a couple of month in 2001 and then came back), Richard Fortus (2001-Present), Bumblefoot (2006-Present) and now DJ Ashba (2009).

[jarmo]

No, Richard Fortus joined 7 years ago.

Not "no", yes!

Bumblefoot joined three years ago, DJ joined a few months ago AND Richard in 2002.

You're all correct.



/jarmo

[4tus phenomenon]

No, Richard Fortus joined 7 years ago.

Not "no", yes!

Bumblefoot joined three years ago, DJ joined a few months ago AND Richard in 2002.

You're all correct.



/jarmo

I edited my post to add a few precisions 
In fact Richard is around since 2000 but had the final call in the fall of 2001, and started touring in 2002 

[Naltav]

Remember the Italian promoter who was talking about a show in Italy in May/June? Nothing happened....


It's possible the Israeli promoter wants GN'R there in October, but that doesn't necessarily mean GN'R will be there.




/jarmo

Same thing happened in Norway....

Some promoter here in Stavanger started a rumour, that they were in contact with GN'R and that contracts were actually signed. And when they're asked by journalists from newspapers on the matter, they neither confirm or deny!

Seems like it's all part of "the game"....

[chineseblues]

No, Richard Fortus joined 7 years ago.

Not "no", yes!

Bumblefoot joined three years ago, DJ joined a few months ago AND Richard in 2002.

You're all correct.



/jarmo

I edited my post to add a few precisions 
In fact Richard is around since 2000 but had the final call in the fall of 2001, and started touring in 2002 

Richard never played with the band back in 2000 from what I recall. He was talking with the band back then but then he never heard anything from them again until spring 2002. Please get your facts straight...

[4tus phenomenon]

He made a session in 2000 to be the Lead Guitarist of the band but Axl chose BH instead. If Axl hadn't hired BH, Richard would have had the gig. Then Richard was told he would get the call next time. By late 2001 he had the call, joined the band on late 2001 and started playing on Spring 2002.

For your information, Richard has always been the main Guitarist in all the bands he's been in. He hasn't been given this opportunity in GN'R yet, so I hope he will. That's why I'm waiting for the next tour so much, to see how much responsabilities he will be given in the band now. I hope he will finally be given this chance and take most of Robin's parts and be a strong force in some new material, hopefully. He is made to be on Front Line. BBF and DJ Ashba should back him up, but to me, the main Guitarist is Richard now.

Anyway, we're a little bit of topic, that's not the subject 


PS: what happened between cd.com and newgnr.com? Why did they separate? you can answer me by PM if you want. I never understood what happened there. Thanks.

[chineseblues]

He made a session in 2000 to be the Lead Guitarist of the band but Axl chose BH instead. If Axl hadn't hired BH, Richard would have had the gig. Then Richard was told he would get the call next time. By late 2001 he had the call, joined the band on late 2001 and started playing on Spring 2002.

No that's not the way it happened.....

From an interview Richard did last year:

It?s funny because 2 years before, I had gotten a call to come in and audition for them. This was before I knew Tommy. I had gotten a call to audition, but then Buckethead got the gig before I came out. I was scheduled to come out and audition. They called and said, ?Yeah, we want to fly you out this week.? I was going to be there anyway doing sessions, so I could do it at that time. They said, ?Perfect.? I didn?t hear back from them, so I just figured, ?Well, it must not be happening.?

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/richard_fortus_of_gnr_theres_a_constant_quest_for_the_perfect_tone.html

[jarmo]

How surprising. The Fortus Super Fan has turned a thread about a rumored gig into a Fortus history lesson.


Great guitar player, wrong thread.





/jarmo

[4tus phenomenon]

He made a session in 2000 to be the Lead Guitarist of the band but Axl chose BH instead. If Axl hadn't hired BH, Richard would have had the gig. Then Richard was told he would get the call next time. By late 2001 he had the call, joined the band on late 2001 and started playing on Spring 2002.

No that's not the way it happened.....

From an interview Richard did last year:

It?s funny because 2 years before, I had gotten a call to come in and audition for them. This was before I knew Tommy. I had gotten a call to audition, but then Buckethead got the gig before I came out. I was scheduled to come out and audition. They called and said, ?Yeah, we want to fly you out this week.? I was going to be there anyway doing sessions, so I could do it at that time. They said, ?Perfect.? I didn?t hear back from them, so I just figured, ?Well, it must not be happening.?

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/richard_fortus_of_gnr_theres_a_constant_quest_for_the_perfect_tone.html

Ok, my bad, I thought he did the session. You're right. 

How surprising. The Fortus Super Fan has turned a thread about a rumored gig into a Fortus history lesson.


Great guitar player, wrong thread.


/jarmo

Yes I know it's the wrong topic. You're right too.

Seems like I'm wrong to everything today 


Back on Topic, no problem.

[axljungle]

Iron Maiden change a lot of his members, but always play the old and new songs, and everybody thing is all right. Guns do it too, what's the problem? I wanna hear the chinese democracy songs, but I wanna hear the old songs too, I'm a fan of this band since 1989 and I wanna hear every album of the band.

P.S.: Sorry for my english.

[jacdaniel]

Iron Maiden change a lot of his members, but always play the old and new songs, and everybody thing is all right. Guns do it too, what's the problem? I wanna hear the chinese democracy songs, but I wanna hear the old songs too, I'm a fan of this band since 1989 and I wanna hear every album of the band.

No problem with that at all.  Just, in relation to Velvet Revolver, you can see how they struggle more with attendance to shows because there not playing many Guns n Roses songs (2-3) and dont have the name.  I know it wasn't you but somebody above was mocking VR for not having bigger attendances, which is very hard when not playing old GNR hits.  They also play a lot more shows to smaller crowds

[faldor]

Slas has distanced himself from GNR? I sure don't get that impression.

[SMFS]

Wow!

Another Slash vs. Axl debate.

How original.

[jarmo]

Wow!

Another Slash vs. Axl debate.

How original.

Exactly.




/jarmo

[Jim Bob]

Those of you still harping over the GnR name issue ALL THESE YEARS LATER need to fuck off and go somewhere else already.  sick of that bullshit.   Axl kept the GnR name.   Accept it or fuck off.  I'm tired of hearing about it.

On topic, hope the show happens.  Isreal hasn't seen Guns N' Roses in almost 16 years, so they are due for a show or two right?

[jacdaniel]

Nice editing.  Cool way of getting one point across. 

[oldgunsfan]

Those of you still harping over the GnR name issue ALL THESE YEARS LATER need to fuck off and go somewhere else already.  sick of that bullshit.   Axl kept the GnR name.   Accept it or fuck off.  I'm tired of hearing about it.

On topic, hope the show happens.  Isreal hasn't seen Guns N' Roses in almost 16 years, so they are due for a show or two right?

think a show in israel may present some kind of security threat? given the situation in that part of the world