Slash To Mentor American Idol Rock Week

[faldor]

EVERY star sells out.  Slash just does it more often than most.

[jacdaniel]

People don't realize that Slash once he left GNR was basically starting over and had to promote himself to build his name and own brand up. without that GNR umbrella, doors are tougher to open

Fully agree with this.  Chinese Democracy would have been even more terrible commercially without the Guns name.  People forget that.

[oldgunsfan]

People don't realize that Slash once he left GNR was basically starting over and had to promote himself to build his name and own brand up. without that GNR umbrella, doors are tougher to open

Fully agree with this.  Chinese Democracy would have been even more terrible commercially without the Guns name.  People forget that.

so I guess if Slash's solo CD outsells Chinese Democracy in it's release week and overall, that will confirm that Slash is a sell-out?

[jacdaniel]

so I guess if Slash's solo CD outsells Chinese Democracy in it's release week and overall, that will confirm that Slash is a sell-out?

I doubt a solo album will ever out sell a GNR album but it would be funny.  I don't see how promoting yourself is selling out but.... seems to be the logic these days

[jarmo]

I don't see how promoting yourself is selling out but....

I think the thing is that most sensible music fans understand promoting your product (the record), but they don't necessarily like when you just promote yourself for the sake of being noticed/seen.

That's the kind of things people like Paris Hilton do.

So when a musician steps into that whole "hey, look at me!" world, it'll get commented on.





/jarmo

[DeN]

and that's way more noticeable when we talk about rock n'roll.

the genre implies, in my opinion, some values like integrity, anti-establishment spirit....

I can't say it's very rock n'roll to promote a credit card....

the more funny thing, if I remember correctly (I'm not sure and I can't find this one online
at the moment) is Slash said that RHCP has lost their credibility after a Nike commercial or something...

[oldgunsfan]

I don't see how promoting yourself is selling out but....

I think the thing is that most sensible music fans understand promoting your product (the record), but they don't necessarily like when you just promote yourself for the sake of being noticed/seen.

That's the kind of things people like Paris Hilton do.

So when a musician steps into that whole "hey, look at me!" world, it'll get commented on.

/jarmo

the question remains, why is it OK for a star athlete to promote a product and not catch any backlash but for a musician, it's selling out.....too me it seems hypocritical

i mean living near NYC, one of the big "draws" to potential athletes for the NY teams is the endorsement possibilities

[jarmo]

Why do you feel the need to compare sports (something which isn't art or necessarily creative) to being a musician?

An athlete isn't really attached to his/her work like a musician. A musician creates art and often hopes that others will enjoy it. The art defines the musician and he/she will often be remembered for it by the public.

An athlete isn't really out to create something and hope others will like it. It's more about performing well so you can get signed to the best team, win as many games as possible etc etc.


So when a musician starts doing other things besides the music, the focus shifts. Ozzy is probably more known as a TV star than a musician among some people!





/jarmo

[LunsJail]

In all fairness, Slash will be playing music on a music based show and mentoring other musicians. While I don't think it's real cool or necessary, it's not the same as Kobe Bryant endorsing McDonald's.

[oldgunsfan]

Why do you feel the need to compare sports (something which isn't art or necessarily creative) to being a musician?

An athlete isn't really attached to his/her work like a musician. A musician creates art and often hopes that others will enjoy it. The art defines the musician and he/she will often be remembered for it by the public.

An athlete isn't really out to create something and hope others will like it. It's more about performing well so you can get signed to the best team, win as many games as possible etc etc.


So when a musician starts doing other things besides the music, the focus shifts. Ozzy is probably more known as a TV star than a musician among some people!

/jarmo

musicians, athletes.....they're all entertainers

[D]

If the Beatles can sell out, anybody can

I just find it ridiculous

u have one life to live on this planet. So if u are a rock legend, u should never do anything else and live the rest of your life in seclusion and live off your past work just because some fans will get upset u are ruining a 'Legacy"

fuck that. I feel Slash has earned the right to do whatever it is he wants to do. He hasn't crossed the line in my opinion. Had they done a Reality ROCK STAR show for a frontman, that would be fucking lame I admit.

What he has done doesn't qualify.

Guitar Hero isn't selling out. It is introducing a brand new generation of fans for years to come to u. that is smart

So what other things has he done? the car commercial kind of sucks, but at least he was jamming on a guitar in it.

[AC]

AI is actually a good show this year. The remaining 4 (and 5) are really talented. That guy Adam Lambert will kill the music scene when it's said and done. Using a show to get out there and publicize yourself (whether it be Slash or a contestant like Adam) is normal. Musician's are on shows all the time, from Top of the Pops to American Idol, to HDNET's live concert series. It's all good and all part of the game. I'm looking forward tonight to hear what Slash has to say to the contestants and to see him tomorrow perform. Would be nice to hear some new skool Slash stuff. His book was terrible, but his playing for the Wrestler soundtrack, albeit not technically hard, was killer.

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[jarmo]

If you think promoting your music by playing the songs live or doing interviews equals promoting yourself by doing commercials, appearing on day time TV shows etc., ok......



/jarmo

[Falcon]

I've got no problem with someone "getting out there" so to speak but I do think he needs to pick his spots more carefully..

Charity events and whatnot (Guitar Hero, selective commercial appearances), fine.  If his presence can help a cause (even by collaborating with the likes of Fergie)  - all good..

AI?

Not so much....

[FunkyMonkey]

Those AI kids can sing their asses off, especially Adam.

about 14 hours ago from txt

So this is the guy Slash is talking about...

http://www.americanidol.com/videos/season_8/performances/adam_lambert_feeling_good

I guess we'll see tonight....

[Axl4Prez2004]

I'll be watching.  I like Lambert's voice.  It'll be interesting to see if he does any kind of song with Slash playing along.

About Slash...the path he takes is his to choose...I just wish he made better choices along the way. 

[oldgunsfan]

I've got no problem with someone "getting out there" so to speak but I do think he needs to pick his spots more carefully..

Charity events and whatnot (Guitar Hero, selective commercial appearances), fine.  If his presence can help a cause (even by collaborating with the likes of Fergie)  - all good..

AI?

Not so much....

I can see what your saying about AI; but, IMO, Slash thinks Lamberts an intriuging talent and what a way to skope him out and get to know him; I don't think Slash does this if lambert's not on the show.

[Falcon]

I've got no problem with someone "getting out there" so to speak but I do think he needs to pick his spots more carefully..

Charity events and whatnot (Guitar Hero, selective commercial appearances), fine.  If his presence can help a cause (even by collaborating with the likes of Fergie)  - all good..

AI?

Not so much....

I can see what your saying about AI; but, IMO, Slash thinks Lamberts an intriuging talent and what a way to skope him out and get to know him; I don't think Slash does this if lambert's not on the show.

I haven't watched the show so I have no idea who Lambert is or why his presence would compel Slash to appear, just not the choice I'll make as a viewer or the choice I'd make as an
iconic guitar player.

[faldor]

I've got no problem with someone "getting out there" so to speak but I do think he needs to pick his spots more carefully..

Charity events and whatnot (Guitar Hero, selective commercial appearances), fine.  If his presence can help a cause (even by collaborating with the likes of Fergie)  - all good..

AI?

Not so much....

I can see what your saying about AI; but, IMO, Slash thinks Lamberts an intriuging talent and what a way to skope him out and get to know him; I don't think Slash does this if lambert's not on the show.

I'm not so sure he knew how any of them sang prior to hearing them last week.  At least that's how his comments on twitter made it seem.

[D]

Its simple mathematics

Slash has a solo record coming out ,AI is seen by 30 million people, exposes Slash to a new generation of fans


I hate AI but its a SMART business move.