Mixing "Guns N' Roses" Live With Waves

[legolas]

Any other places to watch those vids?? All I get is:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by UziSuicidal LLC.

[faldor]

Just so people who didn't get to see the videos know, there's no actual video footage of anyone in the band.  It's just the guy talking about working the mixing board, and he plays SOME guitar, bass, and drums from SCOM.

It was such a short clip to make any assessments on DJ's playing off of that is ridiculous.

[WTTJ_91]

I saw it before it got pulled down. Pooch is really going to take this band to another level in a live aspect, he obviously knows how to achieve the GN'R sound, especially with the guitars. A big thing with the original line-up was that Slash didn't overpower Izzy and vice-versa , it was a giant wall of sound. Once Gilby came along that got lost in translation, and as far as the new bands it just seems the didn't ever have the right person to mesh the sounds together. It's not about getting the biggest sound for each guitarist, as he said one may sound thin on it's on but mixed together it's a big sound. I'm not sure who is playing the solo, but it didn't sound good.... I know it was like 5 seconds I'm not judging but it sounded like a horrible youtube cover. I'm sure that will get fixed before the tour. Anyways, Pooch 

[cineater]

I didn't understand a word he said--lol.  Like his attitude and sense of humor.  And not that I'm anyone to judge his abilities, I think we got one of the best in the business on the GNR team.

[ppbebe]

And there is a friendly and briskly atmosphere in rehearsal it seems.

F*** , Sh**, F********** !! 

Arrived too late...Couldn't see the videos. Sh** !

Was Djs solo THAT bad  ? I mean he's a pretty decent guitarist when it comes to his own material, how could it be so bad ? 

I don't have such a quick ear to judge a solo from a split seconds in a demonstration of mixing.

[smeagol2124]

As mentioned somewhere else, when pooch said he wanted the fans in the cheapest seats to have the same audio experience as those in the highest priced ones.......GNR has the right guy mixing them live.


 Great videos, thanks for sharing wile they were up.

[djcleaver]

Pooch is a great guy and will do a great job as stated above, I noticed a post on his blog which may shed some light on the begining of the tour, although it's really nothing new:

"Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 07:59 PM
Any updates in the world of Pooch? How are GNR rehearsals going? Did you see the July/August dates LP put up?"

[D]

As long as the guy is able to push Axl's vocals higher up in the mix, he will be fine

thought it sounded pretty killer

[audjon]

Any other places to watch those vids?? All I get is:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by UziSuicidal LLC.

Yes, same ol', same ol' keep any news away from the fans.

[jarmo]

Any other places to watch those vids?? All I get is:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by UziSuicidal LLC.

Yes, same ol', same ol' keep any news away from the fans.

What news would that be?

The name of the engineer?





/jarmo

[Limulus]

i would consider the insight about how the band is being mixed for live shows as news for fans.
add that the engineer is talking to the cam....so in a way it was considered and edited together for getting out.
nevertheless stuff like this rarely is allowed to get out from the gnr camp as time has proven (robert john videos etc. etc.)

[CheapJon]

i can't believe no one has pointed out the likelyness that this might be on a live dvd as xtra material 

[MeanBone]

actually i think this is mostly targeted to audio professionals and not music fans, besides the fact it was gn'r playing, it had very little to do with the band, it was more technical, and it's easy to understand that rehearsals taking place for a tour should be kept on a down low until the tour finally happens.

if the audio engineer did this without the band's permission i can see why the band would have a problem with that, but i do think this is all about "waves" products and nothing more, so i'm glad it's taken care of.


and yeah the solo was pretty lame, but we didn't see him play, he could've easily been distracted while playing that or doing something at the same time that took away his attention from the guitar, it's no big deal, rehearsals aren't meant to be perfect, nor open to fans or critics.

[ppbebe]

i can't believe no one has pointed out the likelyness that this might be on a live dvd as xtra material 

to demonstrate waves to gnr fans?

Any other places to watch those vids?? All I get is:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by UziSuicidal LLC.

Yes, same ol', same ol' keep any news away from the fans.

same old UziSuicidal LLC?  

[AtariLegend]

if the audio engineer did this without the band's permission i can see why the band would have a problem with that

I would presume the "Copy Right" withdrawal has more do with them "Uzi" making money off this, for example on a DVD as some suggested.

If it was against the bands will, then "jarmo" probably would have deleted this thread.

[Loaded NightraiN]

I would presume the "Copy Right" withdrawal has more do with them "Uzi" making money off this, for example on a DVD as some suggested.

All this does, is make me want a DVD that much more

[AtariLegend]

I would presume the "Copy Right" withdrawal has more do with them "Uzi" making money off this, for example on a DVD as some suggested.

All this does, is make me want a DVD that much more

I can tell when a downloader is exaggerating  .

[jarmo]

actually i think this is mostly targeted to audio professionals and not music fans, besides the fact it was gn'r playing, it had very little to do with the band, it was more technical, and it's easy to understand that rehearsals taking place for a tour should be kept on a down low until the tour finally happens.

Exactly.


The fact that certain GN'R fans started over analyzing everything about it probably never was the intention of the clips. Like looking for clues where the tour is gonna start etc.

I get it, it's exciting to have an insight into how a band works.

But sometimes it can become a bit "dangerous" when you start getting your hopes up based on clues that probably aren't even there in the first place.


Over analyzing solos, that they don't even know for sure who plays on, but still use to attack the band members.....





/jarmo

[GnR-NOW]

People need to realize that the current members put their own style into the old songs. IE/ Buckethead - Nightrain

I know it's over analyzing but, this is positive, but does anyone think based off the clips that SCOM rythym will sound more like the Big Daddy version ?

[Classic Case]

actually i think this is mostly targeted to audio professionals and not music fans, besides the fact it was gn'r playing, it had very little to do with the band, it was more technical, and it's easy to understand that rehearsals taking place for a tour should be kept on a down low until the tour finally happens.

Exactly.


The fact that certain GN'R fans started over analyzing everything about it probably never was the intention of the clips. Like looking for clues where the tour is gonna start etc.

I get it, it's exciting to have an insight into how a band works.

But sometimes it can become a bit "dangerous" when you start getting your hopes up based on clues that probably aren't even there in the first place.


Over analyzing solos, that they don't even know for sure who plays on, but still use to attack the band members.....





/jarmo

well jarmo, we just love GNR, and whatever have the GNR name is interesting for us, we are hungry for any kind of news, if we find something that mention the band is enough, for me those videos are very interesting, I never saw how a mixing works, and was prety cool to see it, and I dont know how "dangerous" that can be, looking for clues about the tour???...we do it all the time, bashing band members??? we do it all the time....hope u dont delete this post