Stop posting articles for other GN'R fans to enjoy, it's stealing! (was Brain in Modern Drummer)

[jarmo]

The argument about "Credit" is bologna anyway.

Just because you can't understand it?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

You keep saying that, like you think it's some kind of universal answer.



My opinion is that stealing from the band we're supposed to support is more wrong, than posting and talking about a scanned GN'R interview.


Some of you copyright lawyers see both things as fine. Well unless you watermark a picture, that's obviously worse than stealing from the band.


Either you want fans to discuss articles/news and break copyright laws, or you don't.



Bandita and TAP, you still refuse to address anything.

Haha. How convenient.

You're more upset about GypsySoul's scans than stealing from the band you are fans of.





/jarmo

[Bandita]

So go buy the magazine or put it back without the watermarks.

Why don't you do it for the rest of us?

That way you'd be helping the magazine not to lose money!

If that is what you would like me to do, I would be glad to spend the 3 or 4 bucks on the mag tomorrow and scan it without watermark for your reading pleasure.  I will even post it up without snide remarks insinuating that I know I am doing something wrong.

[jarmo]

Great.

A lot of people do nothing more than whine but never offer anything constructive.


By the way, doesn't it bother you that you'd be breaking the law and making the magazine lose money by posting the scans?

Or is it just the watermarks that are illegal/objectionable?



/jarmo

[TAP]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

You keep saying that, like you think it's some kind of universal answer.

Because it is a universal answer, Jesus told me so in a dream.

Would you like us to make SLC's site a main topic of conversation in this forum? I kind of doubt it. We're talking here about something here, I have no idea why something unrelated at a different site needs to be discussed in this thread or at this forum just because we happen to post in a forum somewhere else. But if it makes you feel better - SLC, please stop doing whatever naughty things you are doing.

[*Timothy*]

Lets sum it up .

Stealing from a mag is good. Or acceptable.


Stealing from a band/label bad. Not acceptable.


.

[jarmo]

Would you like us to make SLC's site a main topic of conversation in this forum? I kind of doubt it. We're talking here about something here, I have no idea why something unrelated at a different site needs to be discussed in this thread or at this forum just because we happen to post in a forum somewhere else. But if it makes you feel better - SLC, please stop doing whatever naughty things you are doing.

No, I'm just interested in a simple yes/no answer.

I'm just curious how some of you are so against stealing from this drumming magazine that none of us are buying, but you seem to be fine with stealing from the band.

As a GN'R fan, I think stealing from the band is worse. As I've explained.



If you're so against his use of officially released GN'R music, I hope you go to his site and have a copyright discussion with him there.

I'm sure he'll explain to you that as long as he doesn't claim it's him singing on Chinese Democracy, it's fine for him to keep streaming it.  

Lets sum it up .

Stealing from a mag is good. Or acceptable.


Stealing from a band/label bad. Not acceptable.

Correction: Stealing from a mag in order to have a discussion about something newsworthy with fellow fans is acceptable.

You don't agree?



/jarmo

[*Timothy*]

Stealing is Stealing , sir.

No matter how you want to justify it..

[AxlsMainMan]

Stealing is Stealing , sir.

No matter how you want to justify it..

What about Aaladin and Apu stealing a loaf of bread so they don't starve?

[TAP]

Would you like us to make SLC's site a main topic of conversation in this forum? I kind of doubt it. We're talking here about something here, I have no idea why something unrelated at a different site needs to be discussed in this thread or at this forum just because we happen to post in a forum somewhere else. But if it makes you feel better - SLC, please stop doing whatever naughty things you are doing.

No, I'm just interested in a simple yes/no answer.

I'm just curious how some of you are so against stealing from this drumming magazine that none of us are buying, but you seem to be fine with stealing from the band.

As a GN'R fan, I think stealing from the band is worse. As I've explained.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

If you're so against his use of officially released GN'R music, I hope you go to his site and have a copyright discussion with him there.

I'm sure he'll explain to you that as long as he doesn't claim it's him singing on Chinese Democracy, it's fine for him to keep streaming it.

But that is the point, I doubt anyone here objects to you posting the modern drummer story - it's the appearance that it is yours to manipulate which is the issue.

But if it helps, I will raise the issue over there.....keep your eyes peeled.

[*Timothy*]

Stealing is Stealing , sir.

No matter how you want to justify it..

What about Aaladin and Apu stealing a loaf of bread so they don't starve?

Those thieve bastard should have been beheaded on the spot.  But I doubt that was the film Disney could have made money on.

[jarmo]

Stealing is Stealing , sir.

No matter how you want to justify it..

I knew you'd say it.  


You're a GN'R fan. So maybe you claim to love and support GN'R. Stealing from something you claim to love and support is one thing. Stealing from some magazine that you don't buy anyway is something else.

Do you know the saying "don't shit where you eat"?


But for you it's black or white.

It's like saying stealing a Twix bar because you're hungry is the same thing as robbing a bank....



So you're against posting articles without permission on fan sites because it's stealing?

But if it helps, I will raise the issue over there.....keep your eyes peeled.

No, do it over there.  

We're obviously wrong. So no need to spam our board with more of your games.





/jarmo

[GypsySoul]

I did not "steal" anything.  I paid $30 for five copies of this mag.

and for the record ... I (GypsySoul) added the watermark myself

[AxlsMainMan]

Stealing is Stealing , sir.

No matter how you want to justify it..

What about Aaladin and Apu stealing a loaf of bread so they don't starve?

Those thieve bastard should have been beheaded on the spot.  But I doubt that was the film Disney could have made money on.

Where's Varg when you need him?

[TAP]

I did not "steal" anything.  I paid $30 for five copies of this mag.

Payment isn't a defence against copyright infringement

[*Timothy*]

Stealing is Stealing , sir.

No matter how you want to justify it..

I knew you'd say it.  


You're a GN'R fan. So maybe you claim to love and support GN'R. Stealing from something you claim to love and support is one thing. Stealing from some magazine that you don't buy anyway is something else.


But for you it's lack or white.

It's like saying stealing a Twix bar because you're hungry is the same thing as robbing a bank....



So you're against posting articles without permission on fan sites because it's stealing?

But if it helps, I will raise the issue over there.....keep your eyes peeled.

No, do it over there.  

We're obviously wrong. So no need to spam our board with more of your games.





/jarmo

And how did I know you would come back with that . Wait now while I roll on the floor and laugh.....Okay i 'm done laughing.



( insert a generic replay about someone who's starving stealing food here.")

Cause We all know how that retrains to this topic.

 

[TAP]

But if it helps, I will raise the issue over there.....keep your eyes peeled.

No, do it over there.  

I think we need to agree on a 'there' definition.

[jarmo]

And how did I know you would come back with that . Wait now while I roll on the floor and laugh.....Okay i 'm done laughing.



( insert a generic replay about someone who's starving stealing food here.")

Cause We all know how that retrains to this topic.

I see you took dancing lessons. You're dancing around the topic like some kind of Tony Manero!




So you don't think it's fair to steal from magazines to have something to talk about as fans? Yes/no

Or maybe you don't care because GN'R doesn't really interest you? Yes/No

You don't think it's worse to steal from the band you claim to be a fan of than to steal from a magazine? Yes/No




/jarmo

[*Timothy*]

And how did I know you would come back with that . Wait now while I roll on the floor and laugh.....Okay i 'm done laughing.



( insert a generic replay about someone who's starving stealing food here.")

Cause We all know how that retrains to this topic.

I see you took dancing lessons. You're dancing around the topic like some kind of Tony Manero!




So you don't think it's fair to steal from magazines to have something to talk about as fans? Yes/no

Or maybe you don't care because GN'R doesn't really interest you? Yes/No

You don't think it's worse to steal from the band you claim to be a fan of than to steal from a magazine? Yes/No




/jarmo

What part of stealing is stealing didn't you get??


Good thing you no what my interest are and aren't.

[jarmo]

What part of stealing is stealing didn't you get??

Hahahaha.


Yeah, it's better to keep saying that than to answer the uncomfortable questions.

What part of "not everything is black or white" don't you fucking get? Let me guess, it's everything between the first " and the second "...





Now, logout and go find a site that only posts stuff with permission or stuff they own the copyright to. 





/jarmo

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]