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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2009, 07:46:00 AM »

It's a double standard that a guy can go to a bar and get drunk out of his mind, then get behind the wheel and potentially kill someone. However, someone smoking pot in the privacy of his home gets arrested. Stupid law.

Drunk driving is illegal is it not??




I think this country has enough lazy losers lying around doing nothing with their lives, wouldnt this create more?

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I seem to associate pot with the vagabonds that wear tracksuits and live on council estates. A whole nation of that would be hell on earth.

There's something very wrong with your associations then. I mean, fair enough, you think that, that's ok, but pot is such a common thing so there's an incredible span of different people who use it so you can't have ONE association, or generalization, in my opinion. It's like associating alcohol with homeless bums under the bridge. What about the millions of other people who are more or less upstanding citizens and perhaps drink socially every now and then before they head back to family and work?
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2009, 08:37:29 AM »

There's something very wrong with your associations then. I mean, fair enough, you think that, that's ok, but pot is such a common thing so there's an incredible span of different people who use it so you can't have ONE association, or generalization, in my opinion.

I know, it's just that round here, that's probably the most common kind of pot user. I don't know categorically (I'm not going to strike up a conversation with them Tongue), but there seems to be a fair number of them wandering around.



It was upgraded to Class B from Class C in the UK recently so it doesn't look like they're planning on making it legal here any time soon it would seem.
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2009, 08:58:22 AM »

It can't be any worse than the damage cigarettes and alcohol have caused. For that reason, people shouldn't be arrested for using it. It's a double standard that a guy can go to a bar and get drunk out of his mind, then get behind the wheel and potentially kill someone. However, someone smoking pot in the privacy of his home gets arrested. Stupid law.

Exactly. I mean, how many people get stoned and go home and beat their wife and kids compared to those who get drunk and ultimately do just that.

Most would just put on a movie, or some music.

On a somewhat related note, on my way to class yesterday I saw a middle-aged man who looked clearly paralyzed smoking a joint, and I thought "who am I to deny such a trivial relief for this person?"
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2009, 10:08:30 AM »


Can see more reasong to illegegalize tobacco, but legalizing has some points.

It's also used to help in some eye-diseases.
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2009, 04:08:13 PM »

My parents have smoked pot since before I was born.  My dad is a mess unless he's able to smoke pot daily, and I mean that absolutely seriously.  He has quite a few mental issues and pot seems to reduce the effects.  He's almost impossible to talk to without getting into some kind of argument...even if you take the tatic of agreeing with everything he says!

It would also reduce my mom's anxiety.  I swear, one day, we will find the woman hiding in a locked closet, while smoking her joint. 

Both of these people are in their 50's.  Putting either one in jail for doing something they've done all of their lives seems kinda like torture, wouldn't you think?  Also, coming to the realization during middle school that I could end up with most of my family in jail because pot was illegal....well, that messed my little mind pretty bad.  (not only my mom and dad smoke, most of the family does)

I don't smoke anymore, personally.  I've found I have an addictive personality, so I tend to take things like that too far.  I will also want my daughter to not even attempt it until she's much older.  I met her father in a Narcotics Anonymous meeting, I think she might be predisposed to bad things lol Wink

In summary, yes, I feel it should be legal to possess it Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2009, 06:06:05 AM »

As far as cigarettes is concerned, I must be an unusual person because I can smoke a pack for a week or two if I'm bored, stop for a week, stop for 5 months or stop entirely completely at will. Same with any kind of other substance I've tried. I've read that like 1 out of 10 can stop smoking without any kind of assistance. I must either have an incredibly strong will or my body is simply not made for getting addicted. Probably a combination of both.

Oh, yes, I could do that, no problem, at first, then I started smoking more and it got harder to quit.

I don't know how it would go with these other substances, but I'd say it's not likely to become addicted if you don't use something, let's say regulary, for a while and then try to stop.
 
As far as the pot goes, just legalize it.

But driving under the influense should be the same as if you'd be drunk driving, since it's no condition to drive. If you don't believe have a few joints and ask your friend to slap you.
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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2009, 04:05:36 PM »

According to this site:   http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/    there could be between 10-14 billion dollars worth of revenue each year if it were legalized. This is from 2005, so it could be more by now. Either way, that's a lot of cash. I think that's actually a low estimate, though.
And not just the money, prison populations would diminish, as well as street crime.
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2009, 04:29:34 PM »

According to this site:   http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/    there could be between 10-14 billion dollars worth of revenue each year if it were legalized. This is from 2005, so it could be more by now. Either way, that's a lot of cash. I think that's actually a low estimate, though.
And not just the money, prison populations would diminish, as well as street crime.

How does it stop street crime? Do you think that legalizing it in the US (for example) will curb the Mexican and South American Drug trade? Think about it, if it is grown legally and taxed in the US the drug cartels could still make a considerable profit by comming in under the amount with tax. Considering that in some states a pack of Cigarettes is around 7-8 dollars I would have to imagine gangs would still look to keep that revenue stream open.

Also I may be wrong, but I haven't heard of anything as simple as the breathalizer to test for THC levels when DUI comes into play. It is easier now to arrest for it because it is illegal so the level doesn't come into play.

Just how legal would it be? Would you be able to smoke in public? What would be the ramifications of that? Picture the amount of cigarette smoke in a Vegas Casino... can you imagine the state of people being fishbowled at the Mirage... that would give that Hotel's name a whole new meaning.
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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2009, 05:25:03 PM »

Yes.

It's a double standard that a guy can go to a bar and get drunk out of his mind, then get behind the wheel and potentially kill someone. However, someone smoking pot in the privacy of his home gets arrested. Stupid law.

Drunk driving is illegal is it not??

Wha...? 

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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2009, 05:32:41 PM »

According to this site:   http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/    there could be between 10-14 billion dollars worth of revenue each year if it were legalized. This is from 2005, so it could be more by now. Either way, that's a lot of cash. I think that's actually a low estimate, though.
And not just the money, prison populations would diminish, as well as street crime.

How does it stop street crime? Do you think that legalizing it in the US (for example) will curb the Mexican and South American Drug trade? Think about it, if it is grown legally and taxed in the US the drug cartels could still make a considerable profit by comming in under the amount with tax. Considering that in some states a pack of Cigarettes is around 7-8 dollars I would have to imagine gangs would still look to keep that revenue stream open.

Also I may be wrong, but I haven't heard of anything as simple as the breathalizer to test for THC levels when DUI comes into play. It is easier now to arrest for it because it is illegal so the level doesn't come into play.

Just how legal would it be? Would you be able to smoke in public? What would be the ramifications of that? Picture the amount of cigarette smoke in a Vegas Casino... can you imagine the state of people being fishbowled at the Mirage... that would give that Hotel's name a whole new meaning.

It wouldn't stop all street crimes, but how many people steal to support their habit? Or how many spend too much money on it instead of their bills? I don't know the answer, but it has to be some. I realize that's a small percentage, but it's a start. Smoking pot isn't going away, no matter how much money the government throws at it. Someday I'm sure it will be legal, or at least decriminalized.
I'm not saying it is or isn't a great idea. I just think that many people do it, and they aren't a menace to society. To them, it's nothing worse than having a drink after work.
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« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2009, 01:12:53 AM »

It's a double standard that a guy can go to a bar and get drunk out of his mind, then get behind the wheel and potentially kill someone. However, someone smoking pot in the privacy of his home gets arrested. Stupid law.

Drunk driving is illegal is it not??

I didn't word that very well.  What I meant was that people can drink excessively at a bar or some other public place and law enforcement doesn't come barging in. They're just told to drink responsibly and have a designated driver. But that hasn't always worked out. Almost everyday it's reported that someone's been killed in a car accident due to drunk driving.

Alcohol is celebrated in society. It's associated with having a great time and partying. For people who have grown up around alcoholics it's not fun. It sucks.
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« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2009, 01:23:13 AM »

hells yeah it should be legal Cool
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« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2009, 01:28:44 AM »

hells yeah it should be legal Cool

Imagine being in a world surrounded by people like this dude ^^^^^^^^^?Huh

First pot, then meth, then coke, then E, etc..........
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« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2009, 09:20:30 AM »

First pot, then meth, then coke, then E, etc..........

Ah, classic Nancy Raygun "gateway drug" nonsense.
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« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2009, 12:29:01 PM »

hells yeah it should be legal Cool

Imagine being in a world surrounded by people like this dude ^^^^^^^^^?Huh

First pot, then meth, then coke, then E, etc..........

I'm pretty sure on the legalization scale that meth comes WAY after coke and E. 
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« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2009, 03:14:16 PM »

First pot, then meth, then coke, then E, etc..........

Ah, classic Nancy Raygun "gateway drug" nonsense.

She was doped up the whole time anyway.....
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« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2009, 04:38:41 PM »

hells yeah it should be legal Cool

Imagine being in a world surrounded by people like this dude ^^^^^^^^^?Huh

First pot, then meth, then coke, then E, etc..........

you trying to say something asshole? Angry you don't know me

the only thing that pot leads to is junk food and a nap
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« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2009, 05:25:10 PM »

hells yeah it should be legal Cool

Imagine being in a world surrounded by people like this dude ^^^^^^^^^?Huh

First pot, then meth, then coke, then E, etc..........

you trying to say something asshole? Angry you don't know me

the only thing that pot leads to is junk food and a nap

But that's my life anyway.
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« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2009, 05:35:00 PM »

does pot damage your brain cells?
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« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2009, 05:44:49 PM »

hells yeah it should be legal Cool

Imagine being in a world surrounded by people like this dude ^^^^^^^^^?Huh

First pot, then meth, then coke, then E, etc..........

you trying to say something asshole? Angry you don't know me

the only thing that pot leads to is junk food and a nap

easy there little fella
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