Slash Comments On The Del James Interview

[jarmo]

And in the bio he wrote about Guns N Roses and his relationship with the members of that band. Jesus! Who would have thought it?!

Who would've thought that people who were there with him would object to him "setting the record straight about GN'R" and then just basically telling the story like he wants us to remember it, instead of sticking to the truth?

When even Duff says he doesn't recall the events like Slash does.


How weird that people react!

Sometimes I find the level of fanaticism on this board just plain creepy.

Yeah, it's so creepy to believe in something and support it.

In this case, GN'R.





/jarmo

[Smoking Guns]

And in the bio he wrote about Guns N Roses and his relationship with the members of that band. Jesus! Who would have thought it?!

Who would've thought that people who were there with him would object to him "setting the record straight about GN'R" and then just basically telling the story like he wants us to remember it, instead of sticking to the truth?

When even Duff says he doesn't recall the events like Slash does.


How weird that people react!

Sometimes I find the level of fanaticism on this board just plain creepy.

Yeah, it's so creepy to believe in something and support it.

In this case, GN'R.





/jarmo

Jarmo, I love you portray GNR as some sort of Religion or Faith that you must "beleive" in.  Its a fucking rock n roll band born from the gutter that made it to the peak of the highest mountain from busting their ass.  But that is about where it stops.  Lets not make GNR something they are not. 

Pretty much everyone here supports GNR or they would not be here. 

[lynn1961]

I get tired of the sentiment around here, on a Guns n' Roses (which, by the way, includes many versions of the band) site, that Axl is the be-all-end-all idol whose every word is taken as absolute fact and if Slash said it then he must always be lying.  It gets old.   

Of course you do.

As you said, Guns N' Roses site.

Axl is in GN'R, Slash isn't. 


If you go to a Slash site, then you might notice how they support him and his career.

We support GN'R in 2009, and Slash isn't part of the band. If that's an issue for you, maybe you've misunderstood something about this site?




/jarmo

 

Ok, you just pissed me off, so I'll repeat myself again.     I started here several years ago after searching through many GnR sites which seemed to be either pretty exclusively about either "then" or "now".  I wasn't interested because, for me,  that's not what GnR is really about.  GnR is a band which has existed for a long time and includes many different versions and members.   I found this site and really liked it because it was about GnR as a whole, I thought, at that time.  Obviously, that's changed. 

Now, it's "we support GnR in 2009".     

"As you said, Guns N' Roses site. Axl is in GN'R, Slash isn't.  "

I thought this was (well it used to be) more of an all emcompassing site.  A GnR site.  That includes a lot of people, including Slash, among others.   

"We support GN'R in 2009, and Slash isn't part of the band. If that's an issue for you, maybe you've misunderstood something about this site?"

Maybe I have misunderstood something.  As far as I'm concerned, GnR includes a fuck of a lot more than just what exists today, in 2009.  If you think it's just that, then I believe that's a pretty narrow minded view of what GnR is about and has ever been.  If you truly just want to support the 2009 version then why don't you just make this site exclusively that, if that's what it is for you?   

   

[lynn1961]

I get tired of the sentiment around here, on a Guns n' Roses (which, by the way, includes many versions of the band) site, that Axl is the be-all-end-all idol whose every word is taken as absolute fact and if Slash said it then he must always be lying.  It gets old.   

Of course you do.

As you said, Guns N' Roses site.

Axl is in GN'R, Slash isn't. 


If you go to a Slash site, then you might notice how they support him and his career.

We support GN'R in 2009, and Slash isn't part of the band. If that's an issue for you, maybe you've misunderstood something about this site?




/jarmo

Are you basically admitting that this site is biased against ex members of GnR... whoever they may be?

Sounds that way, doesn't it?  If it's going to be that way, then why even fucking bother having anything about ex-members?   

[lynn1961]

Hypothetical question:  If Robin comes out in the future and says Axl was really hard to get along with and he couldn't stay any longer and that's why he went back to NIN is he going to get slagged the way anyone else says these things are?

Oh, I'm sure he will be.  After all, it's about GnR 2009, you know. 

This is supposed to be a fan site about GnR.  But only if you're a fan of today's version.   

[lynn1961]

Sometimes I find the level of fanaticism on this board just plain creepy.

Yeah, it's so creepy to believe in something and support it.

In this case, GN'R.





/jarmo

But only if it's the 2009 version. 

[Jim Bob]

The 2009 version is what GnR is now.   You are talking about what GnR was, and is no longer.   It used to be, but not today.   Its not hard to understand. 

why argue about it?

[lynn1961]

No, that's not it (and no kidding, by the way).  Did you even read what I tried to say?   

You know - it doesn't even fucking matter, because this place has gone from what I thought was a pretty good site about GnR to only about GnR today and God help anyone who wants to think differently.  So, if it's just about today and you can't talk about anything different and Axl has become THE idol around here, then it's become just another one-sided lame site.   It's not about Guns and Roses anymore, it's about 2009 and that's it.  That's not GnR and what it's about, for some of us around here anyway. What a bunch of shit.     
 

[Jim Bob]

so you are telling us the current lineup isn't GnR?

I mean it is what it is.   

[jacdaniel]

A lot of people have good points about this site.  If your not  a 100%  Axl worshipper than you are gonna get bashed on here.  A classic example of this of this is D.  he always makes good points and admits to being an Axl AND slash fan.  Still he gets bashed if he questions Axl.  When I commented on the guns n roses section, I was accused of trolling.  But they're always on here too!  So lets all just focus on Axl Rose and agree with all that he says! - oh wait, isnt this the VR section 

[lynn1961]

so you are telling us the current lineup isn't GnR?

I mean it is what it is.   

That's not at all what I meant and, somehow, I think you know that.  Do I need to reiterate what I said in another way?    I feel like you just took everything I wrote and turned it right around to the opposite.   

[gilld1]

Axl is incapable of lying.
Axl walks on water.
Axl turns water in to wine.
Axl cures cancer with his tears.
Axl is the greatest musician in the world ever.
Axl never makes mistakes.
Axl is a prophet from God.

I believe, I believe, I believe.


If you don't believe this then you have no business being here.  There is no concern for the perspectives of others here, only Axl's.  Who cares that if not for theother 4 originals Axl would be building cars back in Lafayette, that's irrelevant here because this in GnR 2009.  Love it or leave it, baby!!

[DeN]

"We support GN'R in 2009, and Slash isn't part of the band. If that's an issue for you, maybe you've misunderstood something about this site?"


buckethead and robin finck aren't too. does it means we don't have to support chinese democracy ?

I support every member of guns n'roses. a lot of them said a lot of bullshit in the past years, but I don't care too much.
even Lennon said shit about Macca. people lied about others, bashing, etc. but it's only a question of love.
if you don't love someone at all, you don't even talk about him. souvenirs are painfull sometimes.
Guns N'Roses is a moving entity, some people joins, some people left. some becomes ennemies of Axl, it doesn't mean
we have to agree with him, even if, I admit, I rarely think he's wrong and I understand why.

[carmiedisco12]

Man, I love the 'Slash lies, so therefore Axl has done no wrong' argument. Sometimes I find the level of fanaticism on this board just plain creepy. For someone to have their rational way of thinking so impaired by an individual that it insites absolute blind loyalty and sycophancy is a worry.

BINGO

[jarmo]

I thought this was (well it used to be) more of an all emcompassing site.  A GnR site.  That includes a lot of people, including Slash, among others.      

Yeah, the focus is on today.

So if you have a problem with something like accepting this current band as GN'R, you might need another site. That's all.....



This issue seems to arise quite often among you confused Slash fans for some reason.

You seem to think that because Slash was in GN'R until 1996, we need to support all his actions. If that's the case, you might need a Slash fan site.

buckethead and robin finck aren't too. does it means we don't have to support chinese democracy ?

Whatever you say. 




/jarmo

[mrlee]

Jarmo, you are just as bad as the slash defenders when it comes to defending Axl.

You only wanna see it your way.

Which is why you rejected the  "they're both full of shit" comment because it equally blames Axl as it does Slash.

My comment is not about saving Slashs image. I couldnt give a damn about Slash. Hes over-rated to fuck.

[jarmo]

Jarmo, you are just as bad as the slash defenders when it comes to defending Axl.

So? This is a GN'R site.

I never understood the whole idea of being a fan of something means you have to point fingers and bash the things you're a fan of.


I'm not in high school anymore so I don't worry if somebody thinks it's uncool to say things like "I think GN'R is the best band in the word".





/jarmo

[Jim Bob]

Jarmo, you are just as bad as the slash defenders when it comes to defending Axl.

You only wanna see it your way.

Which is why you rejected the  "they're both full of shit" comment because it equally blames Axl as it does Slash.

My comment is not about saving Slashs image. I couldnt give a damn about Slash. Hes over-rated to fuck.

difference is Axl is in GnR, Slash is not, hasn't been for 13 years, and he's not even on the latest album.

I don't go to Slash boards and bash everything Slash does and talk about how much I love Axl.

[D]

Jarmo, you are just as bad as the slash defenders when it comes to defending Axl.

You only wanna see it your way.

Which is why you rejected the  "they're both full of shit" comment because it equally blames Axl as it does Slash.

My comment is not about saving Slashs image. I couldnt give a damn about Slash. Hes over-rated to fuck.

difference is Axl is in GnR, Slash is not, hasn't been for 13 years, and he's not even on the latest album.

I don't go to Slash boards and bash everything Slash does and talk about how much I love Axl.

U do that enough here in the VR Forum or Slash related threads

[mrlee]

Jarmo, you are just as bad as the slash defenders when it comes to defending Axl.

So? This is a GN'R site.

I never understood the whole idea of being a fan of something means you have to point fingers and bash the things you're a fan of.


I'm not in high school anymore so I don't worry if somebody thinks it's uncool to say things like "I think GN'R is the best band in the word".





/jarmo

So doing so makes you a hypocrite.

You are passionate about Guns N Roses, And Axls vision and musical contributions.  So , because the music he makes and the guys in the band now, mean alot to you. You want to defend them because you believe in them, yes?

So the people who are fans of slash, talking about slash, defending slash, in the EX-GUNNERS/VELEVET REVOLVER section are going to do the same are they not, because what he is/was apart of, means alot to them too.

So telling them , they are blind or this and that. Yet you will deny Axl having part of any wrong doing is hypocritical.

I feel both Axl AND Slash are full of crap. But i dont see your need to preach to the Slash/VR fans in the section designated to them.  If it was in any of the other sections on the forum, fair enough, justified. But surely its expected here.