And the fact that we have those days off from work/school has nothing to do with Christianity?
What we celebrate and the way we do it got nothing to do with christianty.
That the box and sun-symbols evolve (like they have since the begining) doesn't mean it's not the same religion.
What did they believe in then?
When they got old and sick, probably the belief in Folkvang and Valkyries felt comforting, not denying that.
I posted in Cmax's thread some of the traditions and gods with reflections on it.
There is a ton of knowledge, Odin-cults, Galdr (shaman spellcasting), seid etc I'm not gonna bother posting about.
On many topics, pagans were both right and wrong, like scientists.
Paganism is dogmatic and embrace science which is the really cool thing, and a great answer to the enviroment and man.
Ideally, the source-material and study is best but here is some from the posts:
Dual godsPaganism as I see it is science and descriptions of fundamental human relations, gods are ideals, symbols and metaphores.
Freyr and Freyja is the love for the young, well-created, beautifull, fertile, strong etc human.
These are the biggest gods of Europe under a series of diferent names, also worshipped as the sun and the moon.
Freyja is the biggest godess of the north, the
best ideal for women imo.
Independent, respected, loving, mighty, blonde, atractive etc...
As Freyja, the godess of love, is driven by two cats called cuddler and horny (in norwegian wordplay) and Freyr, which is driven by a horse called blonde hair, is a phallic god of lust and fertility, has a sword he can throw around but will always come back to him (like seeds, sunrays etc) the pagan mythology we know (what the christians didn't manage to erase) is knowledge of constant forces in life.
Freyr makes plants evolve means to attract insects they wan't and so on, poeticly speaking.
Note, obviously Freyr is the biggest anti-christ to christianity. Satan.
Titles like Frue, Frau, Madamme, Ma'm, Misstress, noblewoman (somewhat), lord, gentleman (sort of) etc derives from representatives of these.
Freyr and Freyja was originally
Vanir given to the
aesir. Freyja is a socalled
Asynjur.
As we know, sexuality is both something you're borned with and formed in life.
Frigg, a nordic godess, is a metaphore of love to humans, and the love to your ethnic group.
It's what makes animals seek and protect their genetic comrades, what makes the mother defend it's offspring and so on.
It's the force of the creation and continuation of diferent species, like idiot atheists describes in their theory by Darwin.
Without Frigg, Nanna (vicinity, closeness) also disappear and we disconnect, getting comfort in flock-culture.
Frigg is the natural cause to racial/class discrimination aswell.
ForseteIs justice, and as we know with the danish-cartoon ordeal-
-we still react when someone attacks the symbol of this, which can be our freedom of speech f.x.
Etc, Gods of loyality(Thor), solidarity (Tyr), familyrelations (Siv)...it's here.
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Now, devil-worship never existed as described by christian historians, but was the pagans who kept practising their own religion.
This is the reason we see a lot of witch-processes happen during the middleages.
They banned practicly everything that could resemble paganism, they even had laws against hygiene 
It was a sin (politics) and you might not even know the vikings used earspoons etc because of these "historians".
Saturday (Lauraday, washday in norse) was the last day of the week and Sunday the first.
This tells us how important personal and enviromental hygiene was to normal people (ie not christians) but the future generations wouldn't know exactly why before science became relevant again as the judeo-christians burnt all the books and the people with knowledge about these things.
The pagan priestesses already knew then that hygenie was very important as were nurses/doctors, administered childbirths etc.
I'm not gonna explain how and why the witch-processes was a methodic to convert people by the force of terror and tactics we see in totalarian regimes-
-but I can tell something about the worship of Freyr and Freyja.
Pagan priestiesses married Friday (Freyjas/Freyrs day, loveday and the date is called Valborgsnight) 13.
That was their marriage day.
We also know Greeks impersonated the gods by using masks, In effect you become what you perform if equipped for it.
Only the most pretty, inteligent, noble, blonde and so on could be Freyja-priestesses-
-they carefully selected the priest by physical and intelectual competitions (the olympic games is originally such) every 4th year.
As opposed to the bible, quality is all that matters.
Their practice was to create and raise as good children as possible, and we know by Darwin that this eventually creates a new race.
A common theme in ancient mythology.
And I can add that maybe kindergarten-concepts derives from Germany for a reason?
For those who wanna know about Satan, devils and witches for European concern it's simple:
- Freyr is a phallic fertility god(embodies lust/unconsious growth)/ Satan got personified with a big penis, themes of being posessed (all are) by satan etc.
- The devil limps as his one leg is an animal-leg/ The "shoe"/tale of V??arr.
- The cults could have up to 16 priestesses (so called covens) but only 1 priest, this is why mostly womens were executed as witches.
In short, witches, their devil and devil-worship is the perverted version of priestiesses, their god(s) and pagan culture/wisdom.[/i]
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Naturally when they married, they had sex and pagan rituals are traditionally at special places in nature.
So the Christians created a image of ugly witches, who would do harm where the pagans did good, that married and had sex with satan on whatever name they have on Friday the 13th on some scary mountain (As we know, Skandinavians goes up on the mountains in the spring to celebrate easter with sunsymbols and boxes, a pagan heritage) called bloksberg. This was one of the proofs used in court prove witchery, satan-pacts etc as this was illegal. Malleus Maleficarum (a book written by sexually frustrated catholic munks, the pagan women obviously wouldn't go near them, probably why they are so pathriarcial ) was often used as source to expose this crime. Childrens testimonies was also used as their no.1 function was infact creating babies. The local kings wouldn't forbid pagan practice, but "devil-worship" was simply a matter of catholic churchlaw.
This is just a _little_ of many correspondances.
- The mark of the devil = you could be marked by the gods as a sign you had pre-requisites for spiritual tasks. Many also scared themself in initation-rituals for this purpose.
- Sacrificing infants to satan = they rejected defect children.
- create storms/bad weather, do harm, black magic etc = the "upper class" of pagans often operated in diversity as helpers for agriculture, healers etc in the local areas similar to how priests (as we see them today) "bless" stuff.
- The places more men was executed for sorcery was places where male tasks as shamanism was traditionally common.
The list goes on...
Millions of noble women were murdered in Europe during the middleages.
The way to the fire was always _very_ short if you weren't 100% christian, or were in pagan societies.
They tortured them for days, humiliated them publicly and burnt them alive high above the fires.
Luckily, Norway is the only European country that never really was catholic when you read history,-
-so think about this when seing so much BM-enthusiasm from Norway.
Is there enough land for all Norwegians in Norway?
We
only got room for 3.2 million in Norway acording to scientists. Lets get there!
As I said, you're as bad as any other extremist.
Trying to force your religion on others while defending church burning.
I'm not trying to force anything on others but I taken a stand.
Christianity was forced upon the germanic and skandinavian people like nazism; with lies, deceit and violence.
Both are sheepling-systems, like globalisation also is.
I wan't more public awarenes-
- that those who celebrate our holidays do it for the right reasons and with the knowledge of why and what they are doing.
People will decide for themself when we get that far, and I'm fine with that
From the sounds of it, this man should never be allowed out of prison.
Yeah, we can always trust the press...political prisoner considering the circumstances and judgedment.
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