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« on: March 12, 2009, 03:43:58 AM »

After 16 years of imprisonment Varg Vikernes will soon be released from the prison.






Claiming self-defence he confessed killing the guitarist in Mayhem and was accused for setting several churches on fire.



These are ooooold norwegian stave-churches btw, very cool architecture. Tongue

While many newly arrived citizens in Norway walks from group-rapes, racist murders, knife-violence and homocide or people driving over women with child-wagons 3-4 times because of honor, gets 2-3 years in prisons averagely, Varg was sentenced 21 years (which is the harshest punishment you can get) for his political views which contrasted with the christian views of Norways state and court-system.

Varg said to the press he is ready for society and that nothing good comes out from sitting in prison.
He is looking forward to being with his wife and children, release music and books.

He is best known for the one-man band Burzum; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luFCBdS5PAs

Welcome back Varg, and thanks for not breaking in peace
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2009, 06:14:01 AM »

Folk hero? Are you fucking nuts! The guy drove across the country so he could kill a rival heavy metal guy with a sword and battle axe! Then when in prison he gave up satanism in favor of naziism!
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2009, 07:47:16 AM »

he gave up satanism in favor of naziism!

Yeah, thats bad but at least it's not as bad as sympatisizing with human burners, religious totalariaists and opressors of women (neo-christians). peace

Maybe it was done to express disgust for the church?
 Or the usual media-lies?

He should be given a medal for the resistance and many people thinks just the same.
Today norwegian black metal is the biggest cultural export-article from Scandinavia. Welcome free Varg! beer
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2009, 12:10:16 PM »

Folk hero? Are you fucking nuts! The guy drove across the country so he could kill a rival heavy metal guy with a sword and battle axe! Then when in prison he gave up satanism in favor of naziism!

Why oh why am I NOT surprised to see Norway has posted this then? peace
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2009, 12:17:04 PM »

I'm sure the people who fought for your independence during World War 2 are thrilled to be put in the same category as folk heroes with this guy.

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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2009, 12:20:09 PM »

After 16 years of imprisonment Varg Vikernes will soon be released from the prison.



He sounds like a charmer.
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2009, 12:24:07 PM »

I get the distinct impression Norway is a white supremacist or at the least, one of those who cherish the concept of the Vikings.  This is a couple of times now you've posted something in support of someone or something that has those values.  I guess taking pride in something you have no control over is cool and all, but what do you do that makes you so special?

Anyway, this guy sounds like a loser of epic proportions.  It's not that he tried (or maybe sucessfully) to murder someone, it's that he said "Fuck the man" that get him put in jail.  If you believe that I have a lake filled with tropical fish in Greenland I'd be willing to sell you.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2009, 12:53:18 PM »

my bro has several aquariums filled with various fishes including tropical ones but I don't think he'd sell them to norway.

norway I thought you weren't into any kind of cruelty. murder is a sin in any form of culture.  no
and the church looks so wicked. the guy shouldn't have burnt it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2009, 01:59:59 PM »

or at the least, one of those who cherish the concept of the Vikings.  This is a couple of times now you've posted something in support of someone or something that has those values.

This is one of the ignorant assumptions people make...or just anti-nordite I take it.

The nordic people, unlike indians, samii's etc, just appeared in history during the vikingage right?
That they suddenly had a religion, a democracy but were barbarians and then were christianisized and civil ever since.

Thats our history hm...

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The vikingage was a reaction to the saxoonwar, read up on it at wiki.

Charlesmange (king of France) destroyed Irminsul and mass-murdered our people-
- so the skandinavian attacks was mostly on France but also other, mainly christian targets, in Europe.

Due to technology evolving, a lot of symbols were created now and developed further, the prettiest art of it to put it that way.

I'm pagan, plain and simple. So are everyone who celebrate christmas, easter etc

The church, also in Norway, is responsible for a systematic mass-murder, opression and massive book-burnings.

They buildt them on the ruins of the destroyed ancient holy places, thats a pretty spitefull, deceitfull act.

It took a long time before someone publicly attacked christianity again, and thats what I support.
The music is quite nice too, especially the instrumental stuff peace

what do you do that makes you so special?

You're the one making me special, I just embrace my own culture Wink

The religion of the nordic people during the norse era is just a stage in paganism as is not dogmatic.

I use most the nordic paganism as source,
- but this is indeed the ancient indo-european religion we know from as early as the iron-age.

And regarding that,
- how do YOU like being alluded to mass-murderers just because of the brownstone shooting?

Find it funny? Roll Eyes

I'm sure the people who fought for your independence during World War 2 are thrilled to be put in the same category as folk heroes with this guy.

A hidden fact is that most where with NS, died for NS and most casulties are signed our "allies" Tongue

That socalled traitor prevented the nazis to execute 100000 civilians as a disiplinary action for the sabotage.

And to be honest, it's better to be nazi than a christian, thats just how it is.

If Varg is into fascism or got some fascination for Hitler then so be it.
I don't get why a norwegian would be tho, they were into nordic paganism and ideals again, whats the point? hihi

I never liked the Danmark-Sweeden-Norway split, hate socialism and nordification of other people.

And most importanly, embrace democracy.

BM is about freedom of the individual and honesty without compromize-
-maybe the people who fought in WW2 should have learned to not be filled with predjudice and blindly intolerant?

Infact, many of our war heroes have become a part of folkmovements against immigration. rofl


and the church looks so wicked. the guy shouldn't have burnt it.

Wasn't sad, not happy either...

Yes the stave-churces looks amazing.
Norway, and the parts of Sweeden that belonged to our kings, weren't catholic this age.

We're the only country in Europe that never been converted to that (yes, proud Tongue), even under the danes we witheld.

This is why you _only_ find stavechurches here, the gnostics worshipped the serpent in garden of Eden of all things hihi
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2009, 02:20:09 PM »

That socalled traitor prevented the nazis to execute 100000 civilians as a disiplinary action for the sabotage.

Vidkun Quisling is a "so called traitor"?

His name is the synonym for traitor!  hihi

He formed a fascist party in Norway, he was made the "prime minister" of Norway by the Germans.

Nah, he's a hero.  rofl



And to be honest, it's better to be nazi than a christian, thats just how it is.

Say what?



If Varg is into fascism or got some fascination for Hitler then so be it.


Yeah because it's better than being a Christian... We get it.


I never liked the Danmark-Sweeden-Norway split, hate socialism and nordification of other people.


It's Denmark and Sweden.

Of course you hate socialism, fascists tend to.







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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2009, 02:45:35 PM »

Of course you hate socialism, fascists tend to.

This is off topic, and I am CERTAINLY not in any way defending norway's apparently extremely misguided and painful views, but uh...

Fascism and socialism usually go hand in hand.  Most fascists from the 20th century arrived cloaked in socialism.  Stalin, Fidel, or any other other numerous extreme (and I do mean extreme) left-wing dictators (there's too many to list) basically all brought about their power via socialism and so-called people's revolutions.

Fascists tend to love socialism, because socialism tends to restrict economic freedoms, and controlling people economically is a very powerful method.
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2009, 02:47:05 PM »

Vidkun Quisling is a "so called traitor"?

He prevented war and secured norwegian influence, thats a fact.

He betrayed the goverment, yes.


Yeah because it's better than being a Christian... We get it.

ALL our values today are pagan and anti-christian.

We only got forgivenes and compassion for the weak from this ridiculous religion as something somewhat "positive".

I taken my stand in this, both banners symbolize extreme cruelty allright-
-but the church is something thats yet to be defeated. ok

or something that has those values.


Do you know even anything at all about Nanna (closeness), Freyja, Tyr (solidarity), Elle (old age), Valkyries, Freyr (beauty/lust) Heimdal etc, other than that official story about norwegians suddenly just raided Europe out of nowhere?

Yeah, wth...lets lit up Lindisfarne! hihi


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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2009, 02:54:14 PM »

Fascists tend to love socialism, because socialism tends to restrict economic freedoms, and controlling people economically is a very powerful method.

Maybe I didn't make myself clear.

Is that the reason why people on the extreme left fight with those on the extreme right? Because they love each other?


By the way, Norway hates socialism but he has no problem with fascism.

Shouldn't he love socialism too in that case?


We only got forgivenes and compassion for the weak from this ridiculous religion as something somewhat "positive".

Maybe you should be grateful.

If I wasn't as "forgiving" and "compassionate", you might not be posting here today.

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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2009, 03:13:20 PM »

you should warn norway..
he makes racists and white pride comments all the time..


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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2009, 03:31:18 PM »

By the way, Norway hates socialism but he has no problem with fascism.

Hate fascism too, socialism is more like a light-version of it to me.

I said I rather live under nationalsocialism than christianity.

I don't care about the nazi-geeks but on the church-issues people are pretty split. Smiley

In a paranoid thought,-
- maybe they made up the nazi-stuff to drive the attention off the church?

The guy he killed had made plans to kill him and make a snuff-video from it according to the others.
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2009, 03:56:22 PM »

The guy he killed had made plans to kill him and make a snuff-video from it according to the others.

Was he a Christian?

You're just repeating what the murderer says.


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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2009, 04:53:33 PM »

After 16 years of imprisonment Varg Vikernes will soon be released from the prison.



He sounds like a charmer.

Yea, he's a cutie too.   drool rofl
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2009, 06:55:48 PM »

Ya know, I may not be Christian, but I sure as hell ain't gonna go and burn a church down.


It's bad enough he murdered somebody and burned down some churches, but it's even worse that theres people that think he's some kind of hero for doing so.
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2009, 07:50:59 PM »

By the way, Norway hates socialism but he has no problem with fascism.

Shouldn't he love socialism too in that case?


If he actually had a plan to carry out his fascist desires, and was smart about it, then he might.   ok
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2009, 08:03:02 PM »

By the way, Norway hates socialism but he has no problem with fascism.

Shouldn't he love socialism too in that case?


If he actually had a plan to carry out his fascist desires, and was smart about it, then he might.   ok

I understand what you're saying.

You get the people on your side to cause a revolution (socialism) and then make yourself the sole leader (fascism)....

But when you say fascism, you don't really think of the Soviet Union or Eastern Europe during the cold war. More like Hitler....

I wouldn't call Hitler a socialist..... Even though it's labeled national socialism. Which is a form of fascism....




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