GNR List Of Demos 1986-1991

[speedfreak]

I posted this on another GNR forum, and thought that it might be of use to fans.

Here is a list of all the circulating demos and sessions by the old GNR. As far as I know, this list is complete. I've attempted to simplify things somewhat by listing the main bootleg CDs that they were originally found on. The times after the songs are only meant as a guideline. These songs exist on multiple unofficial releases and there are variances depending on the release, source tape etc. I didn't include radio edits or remixes, just studio demos.

Most of the Appetite era demos could be found on 3 main bootlegs: No Refrain, November Rain & The Rumbo Tapes.

The songs on No Refrain are from at least 2 different sessions. Trax 1-8 contain songs that ended up officially released (with crowd noise dubbed in). Also Slash's guitar is in the left channel. Trax 9 -12 are played faster and sound rawer, with Slash's guitar in the right channel. Trax 13-15 are unplugged

No Refrain Demos
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1. Jumpin' Jack Flash 3:35
2. You're Crazy 3:42
3. Reckless Life 3:13 (Live Like A Suicide version without crowd noise)
4. Heartbreak Hotel 4:22
5. Shadow Of Your Love 3:02 (was released on Live From The Jungle Japanese EP with crowd noise dubbed in)
6. Welcome To The Jungle 5:05
7. Move To The City 3:30 (Live Like A Suicide version without crowd noise)
8. Mama Kin 3:46 (Live Like A Suicide version without crowd noise)
9. Mama Kin 3:23
10. Heartbreak Hotel 4:33
11. Ain't Goin' Down [instrumental] 3:31
12. Jumpin' Jack Flash 3:21
13. Jumpin' Jack Flash [acoustic] 3:55
14. West Coast Junkie 0:38 (acoustic version of Move To The City that gets cut off)
15. November Rain [piano version] 9:42

The November Rain Demos sound more like rehearsal tapes than actual demos. They are played quite fast and raw, like the 2nd half of No Refrain.

November Rain Demos
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1. Rocket Queen 6:05
2. Night Train 4:55
3. My Michelle 4:24
4. You're Crazy 3:25
5. Paradise City 5:39
6. Move To The City 3:18
7. November Rain [acoustic guitar version] 4:55
8. Shadow Of Your Love 2:41 (a cleaned up version was issued as the B-Side for Live And Let Die]
9. Reckless Life 2:48
10. Think About You 3:54
11. Welcome To The Jungle 5:00 (starts out with Axl asking "Are you guys ready?)
12. Don't Cry 5:19
13. Nice Boys 2:58
14. Back Off Bitch 4:40
15. Anything Goes 4:31

The Rumbo Tapes are from at least 2 different sessions. Half the songs are very early versions of Appetite-era songs. The other half use a drum machine.

Rumbo Tapes:
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1. The Garden 5:05 (w/ drum machine)
2. Don't Cry 4:40 (A cleaned up version was issued as the B-Side for Don't Cry)
3. Yesterdaze 3:39 (w/ drum machine)
4. Sentimental Movie 4:43 (w/ drum machine. Duff on vocals)
5. Bad Obsession 5:07 (w/ drum machine. Izzy on vocals)
6. Crash Diet 4:50 (w/ drum machine)
7. Anything Goes 5:09
8. Bring It Back Home 5:41 (w/ drum machine)
9. Back Off Bitch 4:50
10. Ain't Goin' Down [instrumental] 3:25 (mislabeled on CD as Heartbreak Hotel)
11. Move To The City [acoustic] 3:46 (the first 40 seconds is found on No Refrain as "West Coast Junkie")
12. Too Much Too Soon 6:29 (w/ drum machine)
13. Just Another Sunday 4:34 (w/ drum machine)
14. Welcome To The Jungle 4:58

More early demos:
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1. Out Ta Get Me 4:00 (originally found on 44 Caliber Horticulture vinyl bootleg)
2. Rocket Queen [take II] 6:32 (originally found on 44 Caliber Horticulture vinyl bootleg)
3. Nightrain [alt. intro] 5:12 (originally found on Metal Petals vinyl. The beginning of the song is played like they played it live in 1986)
4. Sweet Child O' Mine 6:28 (originally found on Metal Petals vinyl.)
5. Mr. Brownstone 4:13 (originally found on Metal Petals vinyl.)
6. Crash Diet (alt. mix) 4:27 (on The Hell Revisited 3cd bootleg)
7. Instrumental Demo # 1 3:32 (on The Hell Revisited 3cd bootleg. Doesn't sound like anything recognizable)
8. Instrumental Demo # 2 3:34 (on The Hell Revisited 3cd bootleg. Doesn't sound like anything recognizable)
9. Nice Boys 2:42 (recently surfaced on some 80's Hair Metal compilation.  sounds like L.L.A.S. outtake)

Cornshucker demos:
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1. One In A Million 6:34
2. You're Crazy [acoustic] 4:28 (recorded in 1986. A cleaned up version was used as the B-Side to Welcome To The Jungle)
3. Used To Love Her / Cornshucker 5:51
4. Patience 6:00 (Same as the final version?)

Many of the Use Your Illusion demos and sessions were leaked in May 1991 on a bootleg tape called "Axl's Advance Copy". Most of the songs are very similar to the final versions except that they aren't fully mixed and there are some minor vocal differences. This tape plus the Civil War demos and some December 1989 rehearsals were all remastered and re-released on CD

Use Your Illusion Outtakes CD1:
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1. Dust N' Bones 4:57
2. Bad Obsession 5:24
3. Back Off Bitch 4:43 (missing much of intro guitar solo. goes right into the 1st verse at 0:20)
4. Double Talkin' Jive 3:17
5. November Rain 8:50
6. The Garden 5:17
7. Garden Of Eden 2:43
8. Don't Damn Me 5:17 (drums can be heard counting in beginning of song)
9. Bad Apples 4:27
10. Dead Horse 4:20
11. Coma 10:06 (sound effects, overdubs not done)

Use Your Illusion Outtakes CD2:
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1. Civil War # 1 7:38
2. Civil War # 2 7:26 (instrumental demo)
3. Civil War # 3 7:20 (demo)
4. Ain't Goin' Down 5:09 (with Axl vocals)
5. Get In The Ring 5:15 (missing crowd effects, lead vocals)
6. Don't Damn Me # 1 5:22 (instrumental - from Mates Rehearsal 12/06/89)
7. Don't Damn Me # 2 4:57 (instrumental - from Mates Rehearsal 12/06/89)
8. Garden Of Eden 3:13 (instrumental - from Mates Rehearsal 12/06/89)
9. Locomotive 5:14 (instrumental - from Mates Rehearsal 12/06/89)
10. Dust N' Bones 5:12 (instrumental - from Mates Rehearsal 12/06/89)


Finally, there are the Alan Niven tapes which just recently surfaced.

GNR Ruffs w/ New Slash GTR's 09/21/90
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1. Estranged (instrumental) 9:27
2. Locomotive (instrumental) 8:30
3. Breakdown (instrumental) 7:11
4. The Garden (instrumental) 5:09
5. Black Leather (instrumental) 3:46
6. I Don't Care About You (instrumental) 2:09
7. Attitude (instrumental) 1:37
8. New Rose (instrumental) 2:40
9. 14 Years with new Duff bass 5:18 (the only track with vocals)


Mixes & Q-Sound 01/18/91
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01. November Rain 8:51
02. November Rain [Q-Sound] 8:51
03. Live And Let Die 3:00
04. Live And Let Die [Q-Sound] 3:00
05. Estranged 9:23
06. Estranged [Q-Sound] 9:23
07. Double Talkin' Jive 3:20
08. Double Talkin' Jive [Q-Sound] 3:20
09. You Ain't The First 2:30
10. You Ain't The First [Q-Sound] 2:30
11. Yesterdays 3:11
12. Yesterdays [Q-Sound] 3:11
13. Pretty Tied Up 5:21
14. Pretty Tied Up [Q-Sound] 5:21
15. You Could Be Mine 5:42
16. You Could Be Mine [Q-Sound] 5:42
17. Bad Apples 4:28
18. Bad Apples [Q-Sound] 4:28
19. Don't Cry (original) 4:43
20. Don't Cry (original) [Q-Sound] 4:43
21. Don't Cry (alt. lyrics) 4:43
22. Don't Cry (alt. lyrics) [Q-Sound] 4:43

That's it, as far as I know. The It's So Easy instrumental demo is a fake, the My World and Estranged demos are fakes and so is everything on the "UYI and TSI Sessions" 2cd bootleg. Please feel free to add anything that I've missed.

[Limulus]

thats a project i really wonder why we havent completed ever up to 2009.
no time for verifying this all but some things got right into my eyes:

- in general ALL unofficial demo releases should be compared exactly qualitywise, concentrating on the late 80s/early-mid 90s "original" releases as most of the later versions are just rip offs from them.
- "in the studio" and "44 Caliber Horticulture" (cd) are also considered to be good sources
- channels left/right:
if Slash is on the left the transfer probably was just unintentionally made wrong (like connecting the wrong cables -> left is right/right is left....can easily be fixed without quality loss)
- Cornshucker demos:
4. Patience 6:00 (Same as the final version?)  <--- different for sure!

[AtariLegend]

Although it's cool that they do, I'm surprised they allow the "Use Your Illusion Q" stuff to be shared. They are basically better sound quality versions of the originals (Expect "14 Years").

...It's a pity Slash didn't see it that way in his book.

[speedfreak]

thats a project i really wonder why we havent completed ever up to 2009.
no time for verifying this all but some things got right into my eyes:

- in general ALL unofficial demo releases should be compared exactly qualitywise, concentrating on the late 80s/early-mid 90s "original" releases as most of the later versions are just rip offs from them.
- "in the studio" and "44 Caliber Horticulture" (cd) are also considered to be good sources

Is "In The Studio" any different than "The Rumbo Tapes"??  I thought they were the same (they are both 66m56s)
I heard 44 Caliber Horticulture years ago, and I seem to recall excess noise (tape hiss) and the songs sounded slightly sped up / pitched sharp. 


- channels left/right:
if Slash is on the left the transfer probably was just unintentionally made wrong (like connecting the wrong cables -> left is right/right is left....can easily be fixed without quality loss)

If you listen to the official releases of those songs with the crowd noise dubbed in,  Slash's guitar is also in the left channel.  It was definitely meant to be that way. 

- Cornshucker demos:
4. Patience 6:00 (Same as the final version?)  <--- different for sure!

Isn't it the same vocal and instrumental takes as the final version, just not mastered and mixed?

[Limulus]

havent compared "the rumbo tapes" , "in the studio" and "44 caliber horticulture" exactly.
my main thinking in those unofficial demo releases is the more early release the better in quality. sure it depends on source and transfer but back then bootleg companies liked to re-rip existing unofficial cds for (mostly more bad) re-pressings so they could make $$ aswell.

channels left/right:
hmmm, good point but maybe still a mistake after all? the slash man mostly is on the right later and live aswell.

cornshucker demos-patience:
you're right, same version as you've described. i mixed it up with "one in a million", sorry.

[Aero]

great listing thank you ! 

[Dash_X]

There are definate problems witb going by bootlegs titles and listings - West Coast Junkies is obviously not a demo - Lets try and match this to my list from a few years ago - note this is 2 years out of date (ChiDem stuff dates back to 2007), and catagorized completely differantly:

Demos:



Anything Goes (Version 1) 5:09 - Alt. Lyrics
Anything Goes (Version 2) 4:31 - Diff. Lyrics
Back Off Bitch (Version 1) 4:50
Back Off Bitch (Version 2) 4:39
Bad Obsession 5:07
Don't Cry (Version 1) 4:39 - unmastered B-Side version
Don't Cry (Version 2)  5:18
Mama Kin 3:28
Move To The City (Version 1) 3:46 - Acoustic
Move To The City (Version 2)  3:14
Mr Brownstone 4:13
My Michelle 4:24
Nice Boys 2:56
Nightrain (Version 1) 4:55
Nightrain (Version 2) 5:12
November Rain (Version 1) 4:50 - Acoustic
November Rain (Version 2) 9:43 - Piano
Out Ta Get Me 4:02
Paradise City 5:40
Reckless Life 2:48
Rocket Queen (Version 1) 6:06
Rocket Queen (Version 2) 6:10
Sweet Child O' Mine 6:28
The Garden 5:05
Think About You 3:55
Welcome To The Jungle (Version 1) 4:58
Welcome To The Jungle (Version 2) 5:06
Welcome To The Jungle (Version 3) 5:00
Yesterdays 3:40
You're Crazy (Version 1) 3:45
You're Crazy (Version 2) 3:25



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Studio Takes:


'Live Like A Suicide' Sessions ('86):

Mama Kin (w/o Crowd Overdub) - overdubbed version found on 'Live Like A Suicide'/'Lies'
Move To The City (w/o Crowd Overdub) - overdubbed version found on 'Live Like A Suicide'/'Lies'
Reckless Life (w/o Crowd Overdub) - overdubbed version found on 'Live Like A Suicide'/'Lies'
Shadow Of Your Love (w/o Crowd Overdub) - overdubbed version found on 'Live From The Jungle EP'

Lies Session (Jan '88):

Patience 5:56 - unmastered LP version
Used To Love Her (Alt. Take) 1:30
One In A Million (Alt. Take) 6:32
Cornchucker 4:20
You're Crazy [Version 2] 4:26 - unmastered B-Side version

UYI Sessions ('89 - '91):

Civil War (Studio Take #1) 7:13 - backing track w/ Axl's vocals, but no sound effects or overdubs
Civil War (Studio Take #2) 1:56 - Axl vocal take, backing track cuts out at 1:45
Civil War (Instrumental) 7:17 - instrumental backing track used on vocal takes
Don't Damn Me (Alt. Vocal Take) 5:15 - Axl messes up, speaks to engineer, then improvises final lines
Get In The Ring (Instrumental) 5:12 - has backing vocals, but not Axl's lead, or crowd effects

UYI Rough Mixes with Slash Overdub (August 21st 1990):

Estranged/Without You (Instrumental) 9:27
Locomotive (Instrumental) 8:30
Breakdown (Instrumental) 7:12
The Garden (Instrumental) 5:10
Black Leather (Instrumental) 3:46
I Don't Care About You (Instrumental) 2:09
Attitude (Instrumental) 1:37
New Rose (Instrumental) 2:40
14 Years ['w/ new Duff  bass'] 5:18 - has alternate coda found not on final version

UYI Mixes And Q-Sound (Dec '90 - Jan '91):
 
November Rain (SSL #40) 8:53 - mix from 12/18/90
November Rain (SSL #42) 8:53 - Q-Sound
Live And Let Die (SSL #37) 2:59 - mix from 12/17/90
Live And Let Die (SSL #31) 2:59 - Q-Sound
Estranged (SSL #35) 9:10 - mix from 12/19/90
Estranged (SSL #39) 9:10 - Q-Sound
Double Talkin' Jive (SSL #23) 5:19 - mix from 1/5/91
Double Talkin' Jive (SSL #29) 5:19 - Q-Sound
You Ain't The First (SSL #15) 2:32 - mix from 1/6/91
You Ain't The First (SSL #17) 2:32 - Q-Sound
Yesterdays (SSL #19) 3:13 - mix from 1/7/91
Yesterdays (SSL #22) 3:13 - Q-Sound
Pretty Tied Up (SSL #46) 5:10 - mix from 1/10/91
Pretty Tied Up (SSL #42) 5:10 - Q-Sound
You Could Be Mine (SSL #20) 5:48 - mix from 1/17/91
You Could Be Mine (SSL #30) 5:48 - Q-Sound
Bad Apples (SSL #16) 4:25 - mix from 1/14/91
Bad Apples (SSL #22) 4:25 - Q-Sound
Don't Cry [main lyric] (SSL #29) 4:45 - mix from 1/16/91
Don't Cry [main lyric] (SSL #48) 4:45 - Q-Sound
Don't Cry [alt. lyric] (SSL #40) 4:45 - mix from 1/16/91
Don't Cry [alt. lyric] (SSL #45) 4:45 - Q-Sound




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Unreleased Songs:



Ain't Goin' Down
Ain't Goin' Down (Live '86) only known full performance Hollywood, CA 8/23/1986
Ain't Goin' Down (Live '88) instrumental jam Mansfield MA, 8/24/1988
Bring It Back Home
Cornchucker
Cornchucker (Live '88) New York, NY 1/31/1988
Cornchucker (Live '93) jam w/ vocals Boston MA, 3/17/1993
Crash Diet
Goodnight Tonight (Live '86) only known performance Hollywood, CA 1/18/1986
Goodnight Tonight (Live '92) Izzy & The Ju Ju Hounds, only recorded performance, Paris 9/30/1992
Heartbreak Hotel (Version 1)
Heartbreak Hotel (Version 2)
Instrumental Demo #1 same riff as 'Bring It Back Home'
Instrumental Demo #2
Indiana Ain't My Kinda Town (Live '85) no known studio recording exists, only recording live in LA '85
It Tastes Good Don't It? (Live) no known studio recording exists, played live at least 3 times in '88
It Tastes Good/Rocket Queen (Live) hybrid version played 5 times in '91, and 3 times in '92[/color]
Just Another Sunday
Jumpin' Jack Flash (Version 1)
Jumpin' Jack Flash (Version 2)
Jumpin' Jack Flash (Version 3) Acoustic
Sentimental Movie
Too Much Too Soon
Untitled Piano Piece (Making Of Estranged)
Untitled Song (Making Of Estranged) possibly a demo of Slash's 'Back And Forth Again'

[Dash_X]

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Rose/Hollywood Rose Songs:


Unknown ['Rose 1983 Demo Tape' CD] (Summer 2002):

My Way Your Way 4:51 - early 'Anything Goes'
Shadow Of Your Love 2:52 - not to be confused with B-Side or the two 'Live From The Jungle' versions
Wreckless 4:41 - early 'Reckless Life'
That Something (w/o Axl) 4:46 - aka 'Taxi Driver'

Johnny Kries Demo Tape Rip CD-R (Late Summer 2002):

My Way Your Way same as above
Shadow Of Your Love same as above
Wreckless same as above

Rick Mars 8-Track Versions CD (July 2003):

My Way Your Way same as above
Shadow Of Your Love same as above
Wreckless same as above
Rocker 3:33
Killing Time 3:25
Killing Time #2 1:09
That Something (with Axl) 5:26
Cold Hard Cash 4:22

dr_loaded [Metal-Sludge mp3s] (January 2006):

Killing Time (Live ??/??/??) 4:10 - unknown date & location
Rehearsal Tape (My Way, Your Way & Cold Hard Cash) 16:48 - unknown date


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Chinese Democracy/New-GNR (1999-2007):



Oh My God End Of Days OST [/color]
Oh My God [Edit] 1:32 - Geffen 'End Of Days' OST Sampler
Sweet Child O Mine '99 Big Daddy end credits [/color]

Better (Harley Davidson 'Black Sheep' Advert) 1.00 - Broadcast Oct. 20th 2006

Madagascar 5.41 - Leak Mar. 29th 2007
Chinese Democracy 4.48 - Leak May 5th 2007
The Blues 4.48 - Leak May 5th 2007
I.R.S (2007) 4.36 - Leak May 5th 2007
TWAT (2007) 6.46 - Leak May 6th 2007
Better (2007) 4.58 - Leak June 4th 2007

I.R.S. (Leak April 1st 2005) 0.32
I.R.S. (Leak April 8th 2005) 0.43
I.R.S. (Leak April 9th 2005) 0.54
I.R.S. (Leak April 10th 2005) 3.39

I.R.S. 4.16 - Leak Feb. 15th 2006
I.R.S. (Instrumental) 4.14 - Leak Mar. 10th 2006
I.R.S. (Version 2) 4.07 - Leak May 27th 2006
Better 4.57 - Leak Feb. 22nd 2006
Better (Instrumental) 5.01 - Leak Mar. 8th 2006
Catcher In The Rye 5.57 - Leak Feb. 28th 2006
TWAT 6.01 - Leak Feb. 17th 2006
TWAT (Instrumental)5.58 - Leak Mar. 14th 2006
TWAT (Version 2) 6.43 - Leak Feb. 17th 2006
TWAT (Version 2 - Instrumental) 6.42 - Leak Mar. 14th 2006
TWAT (Version 3) 5.01 - Leak May 27th 2006

Madagascar (Live) (first performed Rock In Rio III, Rio De Janiero Brazil 1/15/2001)
Chinese Democracy (Live) (first performed House Of Blues, Las Vegas NV 01/01/2001)
Rhiad & The Bedouins (Live) (first performed House Of Blues, Las Vegas NV 01/01/2001)
The Blues (Live) (first performed House Of Blues, Las Vegas NV 01/01/2001)
Silk Worms (Live) (first performed House Of Blues, Las Vegas NV 01/01/2001)


Boston Promo [Version 1] (1.05)
Boston Promo [Version 2] (0.30)
Promos include short studio cuts of Chinese Democracy, Madagascar & The Blues

'End Of Days' Movie Trailer (0.30)
'End Of Days' Soundtrack Promo (0.29)
Promos included early pre-release previews of Oh My God



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Live From The Jungle EP:



It's So Easy (Live) [Sweet Child O' Mine 12"/Welcome To The Jungle 12" B-Side]
Shadow Of Your Love (Live*) [It's So Easy 12" B-Side]
Move To The City (Live*) [lies]
Knockin On Heaven's Door (Live) [Welcome To The Jungle 12"/Nightrain 12"/Yesterdays B-Side]
Whole Lotta Rosie (Live) [Sweet Child O' Mine 12"/Welcome To The Jungle 12" B-Side]
Sweet Child 'O Mine (LP Version) [Appetite For Destruction ]


Live songs recorded at The Marquee in London June 28th 1987, released as EP in Japan, used a B-Sides in US
(*Shadow Of Your Love and Move To The City are studio recorded tracks with crowd overdubs)[/color]



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Non LP Tracks (B-Sides/Compilations/Promos):



Knockin' On Heaven's Door [Remix] (Days Of Thunder OST) 1990 pre-UYI release
Civil War [Nobody's Child Mix] (Romanian Angel Appeal Charity Album) 1990 pre-UYI release
Sympathy For The Devil (Interview With A Vampire OST)


Ain't Goin' Down [GNR Pinball - 1994]  unreleased song ripped from pinball machine 
Welcome To The Jungle [GNR Pinball - 1994] digitized version ripped from pinball machine 


Shadow Of Your Love Live And Let Die B-Side, final studio version
Knockin' On Heaven's Door [live] recorded at Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert
Live And Let Die [live] Live And Let Die B-Side, recorded in London 8/31/1991
Interview with W. Axl Rose (May 19th, 1989) 7:48 - Patience 12" B-Side
Interview with Slash (March 15th, 1993) 7:21 - The "Civil War" EP
Yesterdays [live In Las Vegas] Yesterdays B-Side, recorded 1/25/1992
Don't Cry [Demo] Don't Cry EP, demo version from 1986
You're Crazy [Acoustic Version] Welcome To The Jungle B-Side, demo/alt. take from version on Lies


Interview with Izzy And Slash (Appetite For Destruction 7" Flexi Promo) 5:00
Holiday Greetings From Geffen Records (Axl & Slash) 0:22
Interview with Slash (March 15th 1993) 26:10


Coma (Live Era '87-'93) available from KNAC.com, and the vinyl/Japanese editions of Live Era


It's So Easy [Censored Version] UK 7" DJ Promo, alternate vocal take with diff. lyrics
Mr. Brownstone [Alt. Guitar Mix] UK 7" DJ Promo, mixed by Alan Niven and Michael Lardie
Paradise City [Edit Version] UK 7" DJ Promo
Patience [Edit Version] UK 7" DJ Promo
Welcome To The Jungle [Radio Edit] UK 7" DJ Promo


Welcome To The Jungle (All Dayparts Radio Edit) 4:11 - Japan 3" CD
Welcome To The Jungle (CHR Edit) 3:41 - Japan 3" CD
Sweet Child O' Mine [Edit/Remix] 3:57 - A-Side, all UK 7" single releases
Sweet Child O' Mine (Japanese Edit) 4:25 - Japanese 7" Promo
Sweet Child O' Mine (Edit/Remix -Version 2) 4:53 - USA 5" CD Promo (also used for music video)
Sweet Child O' Mine (All Dayparts Remix) 4:18 - USA 5" CD Promo
Since I Don't Have You (Radio Edit) 4:18 -A-Side all UK 5" CD releases (also used for music video)
Ain't It Fun (Radio Version) 5:05 - UK & USA 5" CD Promos/Greatest Hits
Sympathy For The Devil (Radio Edit) 4:03 - UK  5" CD Promo

[Mr. Redman]

Welcome back Dash X! Been a few years since I've last saw you post.

[suicide]

That's a really interesting list!!! Can someone please share the LLAS-recordings without the crowd overdubs?

[Progress]

Does anyone have Ain't Goin' Down and Welcome from the pinball rip?
I would love to hear that again! Remember playing that machine when I was about 15 years old..Aaah...the memories

[don_vercetti]

That's a really interesting list!!! Can someone please share the LLAS-recordings without the crowd overdubs?

here you go.  If memory serves, it's a bootleg released by Alan Niven.  Jumpin' Ax Flash, it is called, and as well as the LLAS stuff, it has really good studio covers of Jumpin Jack Flash and Heartbreak Hotel, as well as You're Crazy, Shadow of your Love and Welcome To The Jungle.  No Nice Boys though.  Sorry.

http://rapidshare.com/files/241277957/Jumpin__Ax_Flash.rar

Edit;
Does anyone want any other demos uploaded?  I can put up Rumbo Tapes, The Hell Revisited and GnR Ruffs if anyone likes, and a fair bit of other stuff as well.  Only im MP3 format though.  On GnR ruffs, the instrumental version of Estranged is awesome, and the 14 Years has an alternate outro that is amazing, and should have been on the album. 

[Dash_X]

Welcome back Dash X! Been a few years since I've last saw you post.

Thanks, i still float about, but very rarely post.

Does anyone have Ain't Goin' Down and Welcome from the pinball rip?
I would love to hear that again! Remember playing that machine when I was about 15 years old..Aaah...the memories

here you go:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=56889.0

[suicide]

Thanks alot don_vercetti and Dash_X !!!

[Progress]

thanks alot for the pinball rip
Appreciate it!

[Limulus]

diggin' out this topic again!
unlike other fan communities the so called "gnr community" has never combined a proper list with the best quality versions of these demos/versions/unreleased songs. having these songs circulating for about 20 years.....actually we pretty much sucked in this and should work on that!
proper name listing would be the first issue IMO. it doesnt help only reading "version 1", "version 2".....how can you know which version this is? at least there must be some small additional other info for being able to quickcheck what version we're speaking about. for example:

You're Crazy - Demo (Version 1, "let me explain" Axl talking in the beginning)
You're Crazy - Demo (Version 2, with some deep Axl voice in the end)

the song lenght doesnt help much at all as there are many bootlegs flying around with unknown analog transfers with speed issues. the exact lenght only should be given out after we've found and proper edited the final version (IMO).

question 1 about the list above:
It's So Easy [Censored Version] UK 7" DJ Promo, alternate vocal take with diff. lyrics

^^is this one for real at all? i've never heard an "its so easy" demo or an alternate vocal take.

question 2:
anyone with proper knowledge (and the will to spend some time for this project) up for this?
serious replies only please....not the usual "where can i d/l this or that song?"

[rokket30]

how many different demo versions of "Don't Cry" are there?

[src]

how many different demo versions of "Don't Cry" are there?

Almost 100% certainly just 2:

1) Don't Cry b-side version (4:40) recorded 1985/1986.
2) Sound City Studios version (5:10) recorded June 4 or 5, 1986. That one can be found on bootleg Sessions.

edit: Seems there's actually a third one from the bootleg Metals Petals.

[rokket30]

how many different demo versions of "Don't Cry" are there?

Almost 100% certainly just 2:

1) Don't Cry b-side version (4:40) recorded 1985/1986.
2) Sound City Studios version (5:10) recorded June 4 or 5, 1986. That one can be found on bootleg Sessions.

I have these demo versions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--pW_mAVEDo (from Rumbo Tapes bootleg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRyd_1sfJmk (from November Rain Demos bootleg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1wA95UWoxg (from Don't Cry Single 1991 - final version of the first one)

..and I have another different version, but I could not find it on youtube.

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I have these demo versions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--pW_mAVEDo (from Rumbo Tapes bootleg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRyd_1sfJmk (from November Rain Demos bootleg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1wA95UWoxg (from Don't Cry Single 1991 - final version of the first one)

..and I have another different version, but I could not find it on youtube.

First video = same version as on third video, just with a better source and possibly also with edits.

If you have another different version, it's live, an edit or something else. Feel free to upload it on www.sendspace.com so it can be verified what it is.

Demos we have multiple versions of:
Jungle 3
Rocket Queen 2
You're Crazy 2
Anything Goes 2
Move To The City   3
Nice Boys   2
Reckless Life   2
Mama Kin   2
Shadow of your love   2
JJF   3
Heartbreak Hotel   2
Don't Cry   3
Back Off Bitch   2
November Rain   2
Ain't Goin' Down  2 (1986 and 1991)

Edit: See topic above. Numbers changed in accordance with that.