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« Reply #240 on: February 28, 2009, 12:49:42 AM »

There was a poster on here from Utah that told me something once, and even though we aren't friends at the moment, I'll never forget it.

So you're the asshole! Can't be his fault....  Tongue

 hihi


You're right, I don't know anything about it, but I said it's sad, and it is.  For whatever reason it happens, holding bitter feelings enough to call someone a cancer has got to hurt inside.  For anyone.   It's not good to hold such negative feelings inside for so long.  

But he's not keeping them inside when he talks about them in an interview that's published is he?


That's the thing. He does not hold back.

Do you think he's stupid and doesn't realize that some of you won't like what he has to say and probably will feel offended and/or hurt?

Still he speaks his mind.

Like he always has.


Ok now Axl is the only person in the world who has ever had somebody lie on him and treat him bad or wrong.

Once again you start with the ridiculous generalizations!


Jarmo, feelings are feelings. Axl's hurt and pain are no different than hurt and pain felt by millions of other people who have went through shit.

Thank you Dr D!




we know nothing about axl but u guys are the experts right? how does that work?


Never claimed to be an expert. But I don't judge somebody who's shoes I have never walked in or had to deal with the kind of shit he has had to deal with.

I happen to think that since I don't understand everything, maybe I shouldn't be the one pointing fingers.



Yes I do defend Slash.

I don't think you need to be a member of Mensa to figure that out!





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« Reply #241 on: February 28, 2009, 12:50:42 AM »

Axl is getting this shit off his chest for the first time in years.

Let him say what he wants, no need to bitch that he doesn't like slash.   When I say move on, thats what I mean.   Theres no reunion in the works.  Slash hasn't been in the band for 13 years.  His fans who aren't interested in the present should find a VR board.
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« Reply #242 on: February 28, 2009, 12:55:32 AM »

If this is what it takes for him to move on, then ok. but are we gonna get the same venom spewed stuff in every interview?

It isn't about being a doctor but everyone knows that if you let your enemy turn you bitter and angry,they continue to win. He shouldn't let them have that kind of power over him to make him feel that way anymore.

U have a great album, I wish he wouldn't let a small percentage of people upset him. If he reads the internet he should stop, cause the net is a cesspool for cynicism and negativity.
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« Reply #243 on: February 28, 2009, 12:57:39 AM »

cause the net is a cesspool for cynicism and negativity.

Feeling guilty?  hihi



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« Reply #244 on: February 28, 2009, 12:58:25 AM »

Perhaps he is over it, I mean damn if people didn't get it from the Billboard interview, and many obviously didn't. that reunion isn't gonna happen, and if being blunt and speaking harsh finally puts that aside great, sure I know its upsetting for many to hear, and you all feel like you know better, and that things can be done different, well , I dunno, live in his shoes. and then say what is right or not.

I don't think Axl is not to have some blame, but I don't think the intention was about that but more about people constantly creating BS and old band members talking reunion. And so sorry if he hurt your feelings by being as blunt as I can see how he feels about that .
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« Reply #245 on: February 28, 2009, 01:01:36 AM »

Axl is getting this shit off his chest for the first time in years.

Let him say what he wants, no need to bitch that he doesn't like slash.   When I say move on, thats what I mean.   Theres no reunion in the works.  Slash hasn't been in the band for 13 years.  His fans who aren't interested in the present should find a VR board.

That's not my point.  He can say what he wants.  That's fine.  I'm glad to hear him talk and hear his side for the first time in years.  I'm not bitching about that.  I just find it sad that there is so much bitterness after all these years.  That's not good for anyone.  

I know what you mean about move on.  There's no reunion in the works.  Yada yada.  I'll say again - and listen to me - I'm supposed to move on because I'm not interested in the present and find a VR board.  Whatever.  I try pretty hard not to get involved with the arguments over all this bullshit, here.  However, you can't tell me or anyone else to "get over it", when obviously some of the members of that almighty golden original line up have not gotten over it.  If they can still talk about it, then so can I.    
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« Reply #246 on: February 28, 2009, 01:01:38 AM »

cause the net is a cesspool for cynicism and negativity.

Feeling guilty?  hihi



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 hihi hihi hihi hihi

Shit I am tame compared to most people I've seen

Hell I was looking on yahoo at Summer movies and I saw a shit load of posts from people wishing Miley Cyrus would die!

I mean come on now, wishing death on a kid is pathetic.


I have a feeling a summer tour could be very interesting with some pretty damn good rants.

Shit we are a Slash response away from Biggie vs 2pac part deux


So is this why we don't get many UYI songs on tour cause Axl seems to hate how that album came out?
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« Reply #247 on: February 28, 2009, 01:05:26 AM »

If they can still talk about it, then so can I.    

If it makes those people sad, doesn't it make you sad as well?  Tongue  Wink


The problem isn't liking the old albums. The problem is people who keep talking about the old band reuniting.

Who obviously haven't gotten the message...



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« Reply #248 on: February 28, 2009, 01:08:58 AM »

There was a poster on here from Utah that told me something once, and even though we aren't friends at the moment, I'll never forget it.

So you're the asshole! Can't be his fault....  Tongue

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HAHA shit, he and i are like the Two Coreys


same shit though, there are two sides and the truth is somewhere in the middle kind of like this IMO.
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« Reply #249 on: February 28, 2009, 01:10:04 AM »

If they can still talk about it, then so can I.    

If it makes those people sad, doesn't it make you sad as well?  Tongue  Wink


The problem isn't liking the old albums. The problem is people who keep talking about the old band reuniting.

Who obviously haven't gotten the message...



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I just wish we knew who he was addressing. I haven't heard anybody mention that since CD came out.......Granted I frequent here and GNRevolution only

so unless other places have that sort of shit........... Who has mentioned a reunion?
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« Reply #250 on: February 28, 2009, 01:12:43 AM »

You're right, I don't know anything about it, but I said it's sad, and it is.  For whatever reason it happens, holding bitter feelings enough to call someone a cancer has got to hurt inside.  For anyone.   It's not good to hold such negative feelings inside for so long.  

But he's not keeping them inside when he talks about them in an interview that's published is he?


That's the thing. He does not hold back.

Do you think he's stupid and doesn't realize that some of you won't like what he has to say and probably will feel offended and/or hurt?

Still he speaks his mind.

Like he always has.

Yes I do defend Slash.

I don't think you need to be a member of Mensa to figure that out!





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Come on, we all know Axl's never held back (well, except for a few years without interviews).  

No, I don't think he's stupid, at all.   Never said that.  I think he's held a grudge for too long.  I think he needs to move forward in life.  That's not advice - just what my feelings are, that's all.  

Am I offended or hurt?  No.  No more so than you or anyone else when I speak up on behalf of other members.

And the Mensa comment - funny.   And you defend Axl.  Again, so what?  It doesn't take someone being a member of Mensa to figure that out, either.  

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« Reply #251 on: February 28, 2009, 01:15:50 AM »

everybody knows here im not into slash and the shits he have talked
but i really think that axl sounds bitter.. this interview (and the billboard one).. must have been perfect in 2004-2005 when the VR-boys were talking shit.. to clarify and  let the people decide what to believe... i really think axl had to clarify and tell his side of the history but now is too late!

i really enjoy axl and CD.. and that should be the focus.. not slash not past.. is too late to worry about the past.. it is time to see the future
to promote CD and tour a lot...  it is time to prove wrong the haters
  
axl is not perfect
axl is human being with defects.. you shouldnt take his words literally
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« Reply #252 on: February 28, 2009, 01:20:03 AM »

If they can still talk about it, then so can I.    

If it makes those people sad, doesn't it make you sad as well?  Tongue  Wink


The problem isn't liking the old albums. The problem is people who keep talking about the old band reuniting.

Who obviously haven't gotten the message...



/jarmo

I've heard and gotten the message.  I admit it's a thing I'd like to see one day - can't help it.  Whether it happens or not is not for me to say.  But talk of reunion is not even close to any point I was ever trying to make here.

And yes the whole situation does make me feel kind of sad.    
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« Reply #253 on: February 28, 2009, 01:21:14 AM »

I just wish we knew who he was addressing. I haven't heard anybody mention that since CD came out.......Granted I frequent here and GNRevolution only

so unless other places have that sort of shit........... Who has mentioned a reunion?

It's not only fans, it's the media as well:  Duff McKagan: 'Guns reunion could happen'

Just one example.

Notice how this is dated AFTER Axl's Billboard Q&A...




And the Mensa comment - funny.   And you defend Axl.  Again, so what?  It doesn't take someone being a member of Mensa to figure that out, either.  

You're right. Most sensible people who come here and see that this is a GN'R fan site should assume we support Axl and GN'R.

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« Reply #254 on: February 28, 2009, 01:37:54 AM »

I just wish we knew who he was addressing. I haven't heard anybody mention that since CD came out.......Granted I frequent here and GNRevolution only

so unless other places have that sort of shit........... Who has mentioned a reunion?

It's not only fans, it's the media as well:  Duff McKagan: 'Guns reunion could happen'

Just one example.

Notice how this is dated AFTER Axl's Billboard Q&A...




And the Mensa comment - funny.   And you defend Axl.  Again, so what?  It doesn't take someone being a member of Mensa to figure that out, either.  

You're right. Most sensible people who come here and see that this is a GN'R fan site should assume we support Axl and GN'R.

 Smiley



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That's just it - the media helps promote the idea.  The media (even Del James-go figure about his questions) also continues to ask questions of any member of the original line up, whenever they are interviewed, about this whole topic.  Reunion, how you feel, etc.  It's a given.  So no one here can say that "he always talks about GnR - he can't get over it ".  It doesn't matter who was in that "original lineup" - any one of them gets the questions and that's why they end up talking about it. 

As for that last statement, there...well, yeah - obviously.  That's a given.  But it is a GnR fan site, right?  GnR.  That word, right there, encompasses a lot.  Right?     
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« Reply #255 on: February 28, 2009, 01:40:45 AM »

Guess some think that to be a Gn'r Fan U have to only like members on the current line up what ever that is.
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« Reply #256 on: February 28, 2009, 01:52:02 AM »

Guess some think that to be a Gn'r Fan U have to only like members on the current line up what ever that is.

no, nothing wrong with liking former members too.   but if you don't like the current band, you can't exactly call yourself a GnR fan in 2009.  You can say you were a fan of what GnR was.  And those people are better off not on a site like this meant to support GNR.
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« Reply #257 on: February 28, 2009, 01:58:22 AM »

I've always been a HUGE Axl supporter.  I dig Slash, but Axl to me has always been the heart of GNR.  I always thought Axl could pull of a Guns album without Slash.  Some tracks on CD prove me right, but others are missing his sound/feel big time.

i think some comments in this interview are a few years too late though. Can't blame axl for being angry or not liking Slash.  Slash has said a lot of shit about axl.  but why now... why when CD is viewed as a flop, people want a reunion so bad and the non-die hard doesn't really hate slash, the average fan/person just wants the old band together.  As a big fan I GET why that won't happen, but it's not helping axl to talk so much shit.  take the high road.  i love the honesty and part of me likes the rock feud, but at the same time Guns and Axl aren't viewed so highly to the average person right now.

glad to hear axl talk about that stupid "bury appetite" comment.  always felt people took it waaaaaaay out of context. i also agree with him that something is missing from Slash's guitar playing.  I feel like SLITHER is the only good VR track guitar wise, the rest seems so uninspiring.  Slash Gun's work is MUCH better.

i think guns fans are just going to have to realize that what made the original band sooooo good was also what destroyed them.  these guys have serious issues and are some weird dudes.  put all those guys together and you have amazing music, but a crazy dysfunctional family.  I'm glad we got the music we got and the stuff that has come out post Illusions from both axl and slash.

weird and confusing how axl doesn't seem to know 100% if members of the band will be touring or are still considered to be "in the band".

lastly, i only read the interview once and kinda fast, but Axl is insane if he can't understand the amazingly high expectations for CD.  whether we as fans made them in our own head, or the stories of the millions it cost to make blah blah blah.  CD SHOULD have been the most amazing record ever.  it's good, but it could never live up to the expectations behind it and that is simply a matter of the amount of time it took to release it.

anyways, always great to get a good axl interview.  
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« Reply #258 on: February 28, 2009, 02:18:00 AM »

Guess some think that to be a Gn'r Fan U have to only like members on the current line up what ever that is.

no, nothing wrong with liking former members too.   but if you don't like the current band, you can't exactly call yourself a GnR fan in 2009.  You can say you were a fan of what GnR was.  And those people are better off not on a site like this meant to support GNR.

No. I disagree with that.  Totally and completely.  To say that if you don't like the current band you can't exactly call yourself a GnR fan in 2009 is not right.  GnR encompasses and is a lot of things through many years.  That includes a lot of fans on a lot of different levels.  To say that one is a fan of GnR just because of what they are today is wrong. 

One thing about GnR is that it has evolved and changed and included fans on many different levels.  If this site wants to be about GnR today then it should become that.  If and when it becomes totally and all about just today, then I'm gone.  I thought this site was about anyone and everyone who was ever in GnR.  Why have we now become only about today?  If it is, then I call it bullshit. 
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« Reply #259 on: February 28, 2009, 02:26:10 AM »

if you don't like guns n roses in its current form but like it in its past form, then you are a fan of what Guns N' Roses was.. not what it is.   Its pretty simple.   Its just calling it what it is.
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