could this rescue rock and roll

[kapowster]

I am not starting this thread to make it a set me free vs madagascar / chinese democracy / om my god or a guns n' roses vs velvet revolver so let's get that clear. I just heard set me free (also downloaded money) and I couldn't help but feeling that this is a pure rock and roll song...... it's simple but it just rocks. With all the bands out there like linkin park, limp bizkit, staind blablablablabla this new band sounds fucking cool (and yes scott weiland IMO is a truly amazing vocalist who will fit in very well..... at least until he goes in rehab again). It's no nonsense rock and not the shit that's real popular today and I hope that this will bring back the music that many of us love so much. I'm still waiting for what axl is gonna do with CD but I have to give credit where credit is due and slash and co are looking pretty good and they sound even better! If there is a band that's gonna show the world what rock is all about than these are your guys!!!

[Buddha_Master]

I think GNR could lead the Rock troops back to the frontline. Between GNR, Metallica, and VR, I think some good fuckin Rock has a chance to break on through again.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Should this thread be on the VR board and not the gnr board?
VR will not save rock, if its anyone is will Gnr.
VR will never sell out arenas, do you really think they could sell out MSG, boston, philly or any of those large media markets?
I dont think so.
Gnr sold out quite a few arenas and that was with no promotion or album anywhere in site.
If VR was to play one MSG show in a few months it would not sell it out.
VR will be like audioslave.
They will be a decent band but will be only to sell out clubs and small theaters.

[AxlsPiano]

Should this thread be on the VR board and not the gnr board?
VR will not save rock, if its anyone is will Gnr.
VR will never sell out arenas, do you really think they could sell out MSG, boston, philly or any of those large media markets?
I dont think so.
Gnr sold out quite a few arenas and that was with no promotion or album anywhere in site.
If VR was to play one MSG show in a few months it would not sell it out.
VR will be like audioslave.
They will be a decent band but will be only to sell out clubs and small theaters.

Do you study ticket sales or something? I don't see how you can know this much about how VR will do.

[notlikeMiKE]

I don't think you can judge anything from one song and a cover, you can't say how great they will be but you also can't say they will never play out of small venues either. Only time can tell...

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Look at what audio slave is doing.
They are big, but cant sell out arenas.
Just clubs and theathers.
But you will see on their first tour.
They  wont be playing places like msg and the fleet center.

[Eduardo]

Dave, Guns n' Roses wont save rock. The band that will save rock is probably rehearsing in some garage right now [smoking]

[grabaraxl]

you should listen to the new staind album, so u won't put them on that list....it kicks ass! and i really hated this band!!

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Dave, Guns n' Roses wont save rock. The band that will save rock is probably rehearsing in some garage right now [smoking]

My point was the new gnr are more likely to save rock than VR.

[its_so_easy]

Should this thread be on the VR board and not the gnr board?
VR will not save rock, if its anyone is will Gnr.
VR will never sell out arenas, do you really think they could sell out MSG, boston, philly or any of those large media markets?
I dont think so.
Gnr sold out quite a few arenas and that was with no promotion or album anywhere in site.
If VR was to play one MSG show in a few months it would not sell it out.
VR will be like audioslave.
They will be a decent band but will be only to sell out clubs and small theaters.

GNR sold out a few arenas? hmm i wonder why that is.....

[R4tfink]

you should listen to the new staind album, so u won't put them on that list....it kicks ass! and i really hated this band!!

Staind on the same page as any of those three bands is quite a laugh really...

Mmm Aaron Lewis compared to Axl, Weiland or Hetfield?



Axlhogg

[Layne420]

Anything is possible with VR and Gnr. I'm wondering if any stp fans like VR that could bring in more fans for VR. The thing with new gnr trying to save rock is that society cares more about the image than the music. I couldn't  believe people were bitching how Axl look and other members didn't fit in. There is alot of new music that is good today in my opion. The thing is that the music business is one these trends plus looking back you did 24 hour videos and good radio stations that supported  bands. Until a band breaks the trend I would suggest to open to something new or listen to old bands .

[nevermore]

Rock N' Roll doesn't need saving. I just think thsi album (Chinese Democacy) could change evrything.
 Fact is that whenever Rock becomes boring and repetative and just basically sux there's always someone that comes along to give it a big kick in the ass. That is pretty rare, but i have a lot of confidence it can happen here.
 About VR worst casse scenario is it's gonna be a very good rock band. I wouldn't bet my money on just that.... It's not only rock n' roll... Slash has never been only about rock n' roll... It's true art and incredible self expression...
 Hail to the Gunners!

[Butch Français]

VR could quite easily become bigger than GN'R, since they will draw fans from both the GN'R side and the STP side, plus new fans.
and yes, I think VR would sell out the same venues that GN'R sold out on the last tour, if they had an album out. and don't say anything about that GN'R didn't need an album to sell out those stadiums, cos GN'R already have 6 cd's, GN'R would sell out those places no matter who's in the band, just because of the GN'R name...VR are a blank sheet, they have to do everything from the start, make all new songs, promote the band so people will know of them. while 85% of what GN'R played were old hits, and people already know there's a band named GN'R.
it would be exacly the same if Slash and the guys had the GN'R name and Axl had another band name. Axl would have to be the one starting with a completely blank page, while Slash and the guys would be selling out places like MSG.
a lot of the reason they sold out those stadiums was because of the old members, cos I bet most of the people that went didn't know it was only Axl with a brand new band
they were probably hoping to see 2/3 of the members of VR as well.

I hope some of this gets through to the people always bitching about GN'R being a more known band than VR, and will sell more tickets right now....no shit! of course they will! it's an 18 year old band, VR are only about 6 months old....

bottom line is that GN'R only sold out those venues because of the GN'R name, and you can thank whoever you want from the original lineup for the name, and the old songs.
so you see, the old members played a LARGE role in GN'R selling out a few stadiums in 2002.

[coolbuddy]

I don't know why axl bashers ever come to this site , they should do their bitching at VR message board ....

             Anyway , VR and the new gnr lineup's CD (I still believe that it's going to come out sometime soon) sure are going to rock and hopefully put real rock back on top which we have missed since the advent of nirvana and later on , neo - rock which suck bigtime

           I do have a wild fantasy tough...
         

                   May 24th, 2004 : VR and Guns n' ROses rocked the MSG, this was their second concert of their joint tour and they have promised their fans that there is lots more to come...

[John Daniels]

       

                   May 24th, 2004 : VR and Guns n' ROses rocked the MSG, this was their second concert of their joint tour and they have promised their fans that there is lots more to come...

well you got that right . I'm in dave with this one, although I can't be sure and I hope that I'm wrong. it just seems that VR is going to be a good decent rock band with a few hits but nothing more. Axl has given us madacascar, the blues and chinese democracy which are great songs. Almost and could be hits. Don't know if the songs have some Izzys, slashs ideas..but still great songs.

[Butch Français]

I think both albums are gonna be great, assuming they come out..

[John Daniels]

I think both albums are gonna be great, assuming they come out..

That's what I'm really hoping for! I hope both camps will succeed, so like everyone hopes.

[Krispy Kreme]

Should this thread be on the VR board and not the gnr board?
VR will not save rock, if its anyone is will Gnr.
VR will never sell out arenas, do you really think they could sell out MSG, boston, philly or any of those large media markets?
I dont think so.
Gnr sold out quite a few arenas and that was with no promotion or album anywhere in site.
If VR was to play one MSG show in a few months it would not sell it out.
VR will be like audioslave.
They will be a decent band but will be only to sell out clubs and small theaters.

Well, here it is less than one year after this post. It is looking like VR can sell out anyplace they want. They did small clubs in the US in order to get in touch with the fans and to feel their emotion. Now they are in Europe, and when they return to the US they will sell out larger venues. I actually prefer smaller places because the atmosphere is better...but,

As a person who actually saw VR live (1st row) I can say that VR is on fire and will go as far as they want. They connect with the audience and don't have the arrogance  that "we're too cool" for you. Plus, they actually show up and put out new music.

[Dave_Rose]

I dont think GN'R will save rock n' roll they'll be known as the big guns are back and badder then ever you know what I mean but they'll play a big factor though