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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2009, 07:33:33 AM »

The songs all live up to Guns N' Roses standards.   Right now, Chinese Democracy is my favorite GnR album.   Not one filler song on the whole album..

Riad and Scraped are just filler IMO
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2009, 04:00:40 PM »

The songs all live up to Guns N' Roses standards.   Right now, Chinese Democracy is my favorite GnR album.   Not one filler song on the whole album..

Riad and Scraped are just filler IMO

What qualifies either as "filler?"

They're both in your face rock songs with catchy hooks, and all around killer instrumentation.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2009, 04:39:07 PM »

Musically and intellectually it surpasses mostly all past material, save for a small handful of tunes.

But, headbangers wanting nothing but hard rock with testosterone-driven lyrics written by guys in their late teens or early twenties would probably beg to differ.

Please explain.

Just by doing ballads and adding string sections to every song doesn't (imo) mean it's somehow more "intelligently" build than some more up-tempo song.
Somehow people seem to think that all songs on CD have a very complex song structure when they just a have a ton of instruments layered beneath each other.

No, im not saying some of the songs on CD are not "complex", but some seem to think theyre build somehow superior to everything previously released. Trolls don't bother please.


Lyrically - I feel CD is superior to a lot of past Guns material.  I like the older, more mature Axl over the younger version.  The words and the structure for which they're written are more intelligent than alot of 1.0 era stuff.

Musically - it's artistic, adventurous, and thought-provoking.  Not as to say Appetite and the Illusions aren't, but CD so much moreso (for me).

But, it all boils down to preference.  Personally, I would've liked to have seen more rockers on CD than what we were given.  One thing that definitely hurt the album in the eyes of old school gunners is it being too ballad-heavy.  It's magnificently written in many areas, but it isn't near as fun to listen to as Appetite or the Illusions for many of them.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2009, 05:04:01 PM »

I don't see how the album is ballad-heavy when half of it is rockers, or more than half, depending on how you look at it:

Rockers

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Shackler's Revenge
3. Better
4. Riad and the Bedouins
5. Scraped
6. I.R.S.

Mid-tempo Rockers

1. Sorry
2. Madagascar

Rock-Ballads

1. There Was A Time
2. Prostitute

Mid-tempo Songs

1. If The World
2. Catcher in the Rye

Ballads

1. Street of Dreams
2. This I Love
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2009, 05:40:03 PM »

almost agreed axlmainman. I ain't sure about the
Mid-tempo Rockers and Rock-Ballads.

I'm another sucker for the rockers on cd.

The songs all live up to Guns N' Roses standards.   Right now, Chinese Democracy is my favorite GnR album.   Not one filler song on the whole album..

Riad and Scraped are just filler IMO

What qualifies either as "filler?"

whatever beyond his comprehension.  Tongue
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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2009, 07:20:31 PM »

I don't see how the album is ballad-heavy when half of it is rockers, or more than half, depending on how you look at it:

Rockers

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Shackler's Revenge
3. Better
4. Riad and the Bedouins
5. Scraped
6. I.R.S.

Mid-tempo Rockers

1. Sorry
2. Madagascar

Rock-Ballads

1. There Was A Time
2. Prostitute

Mid-tempo Songs

1. If The World
2. Catcher in the Rye

Ballads

1. Street of Dreams
2. This I Love

That's how I broke it down too.  Pretty much half the album is composed of "rawkers."

And as for Riad and Scraped being filler, that is just bologna.  And not Oscar Mayer bologna, because as we all know, Oscar Mayer has no fillers.
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