The Obama Administration thread

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Looks like Daschle has decided to exit, stage right, as well.

Can any of Obama's nominees pay their taxes??

Welcome to "the new era of responsibility!" 

[Axl4Prez2004]

   How hard is it to pay your fucking taxes?  As a Democrat, I am pissed. 

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Daschle was supposed to be the go -  to -  guy who could be very effective in the role due to his history in the senate. Who do they go to now?

Looks like the bloom is off the rose for Obama.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/daschle_taxes

Obama blames himself for mishandling Daschle

WASHINGTON ? President Barack Obama is taking responsibility for mistakes in the handling of the tax controversy that led to Tom Daschle's withdrawal as President Barack Obama's nominee to be health and human services secretary, saying: "I screwed up."

The president did a series of back-to-back television interviews in which the subject of failed nominees was a top subject.

Obama told NBC "I'm frustrated with myself" for unintentionally sending a message that there are "two sets of rules" for paying taxes, "one for prominent people and one for ordinary folks."

"I take responsibility for this mistake," he told Fox News.

[AxlsMainMan]

Welcome to "the new era of responsibility!" 

What was your era again?

The era of the death of thousands of American troops and innocent Iraqi civilians?

[Axl4Prez2004]

Welcome to "the new era of responsibility!" 

What was your era again?

The era of the death of thousands of American troops and innocent Iraqi civilians?

I remember that era...ahh, the good ol' days! 

So...Obama, the guy the Right defined as a self-described Messiah (despite the fact he never described himself as such) admits to making a mistake.  I love the spin Blutarsky.  Keep up the great posts! 

[D]

Democrats!

Got any state jobs for sale?

I just read an article in Rolling Stone about the Illinois Governor.

That's hilarious!

[SLCPUNK]

Welcome to "the new era of responsibility!" 

What was your era again?

The era of the death of thousands of American troops and innocent Iraqi civilians?

The difference is that the GOP would have insisted he be given the position and then went on a counter-attack via AM radio, Fox News, and Right Wing Blogs, defending their guy to death. The Dems simply own up and say "Get the fuck outa here."

Democrats!

Again, the difference is you don't see anybody defending this shit. They kicked his ass to the curb.

So...Obama, the guy the Right defined as a self-described Messiah (despite the fact he never described himself as such) admits to making a mistake. 

That's the difference. Admit a mistake, and move forward. Unlike the shitheads prior.

[D]

I don't want to argue

just an honest question

Had Bush apologized and admitted he was wrong for Iraq, would he still get slammed?


Just pointing out whether it be Edwards love child or the Illinois Gov.  there isn't any outrage about it whereas if it had been a Republican, there would be a 50 page thread about it.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Welcome to "the new era of responsibility!" 

What was your era again?

The era of the death of thousands of American troops and innocent Iraqi civilians?

My era?  I am living in the present, that is why I am discussing the Obama Administration. Why is it whenever someone is critical of him you go back to Bush? That adds nothing to the conversation except that you can't be objective of the President or handle it when someone is.

[AxlsMainMan]

So I should be holding him to the same degree of objectivity that you held Bush?

[SLCPUNK]

So I should be holding him to the same degree of objectivity that you held Bush?

Don't mind Senator, he's still nursing that head injury from when the sky fell on him.

[freedom78]

Had Bush apologized and admitted he was wrong for Iraq, would he still get slammed?

He should.  It was gross incompetence and lasted for years and years.  This lasted about two weeks. 

Welcome to "the new era of responsibility!" 

What was your era again?

The era of the death of thousands of American troops and innocent Iraqi civilians?

My era?  I am living in the present, that is why I am discussing the Obama Administration. Why is it whenever someone is critical of him you go back to Bush? That adds nothing to the conversation except that you can't be objective of the President or handle it when someone is.

Because he's the trump card to end all trump cards in the game of "fuck ups by Presidents"? 

Seriously, look a page or two back and you'll see my calling out of Daschle.  I think it's shady, and am glad he won't be at HHS, though if universal healthcare suffers for it I certainly regret the price.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

I think some of you have an unhealthy hate-Bush obsession.

Let it go, he is no longer the President.

So I should be holding him to the same degree of objectivity that you held Bush?

Don't mind Senator, he's still nursing that head injury from when the sky fell on him.

Still trying to paint me as some neocon right wing fanatic....

[D]

Yeah, u gotta judge Obama by what HE does.

blaming bush is over


Obama has been President for  8 seconds and already a mini scandal.

[Smoking Guns]

I am glad Tom removed himself.  I am sure he could have been passed if he pressed the issue.  If Obama doesn't want these issues any more, stop going after re-treads.  Obama is like a badass head coach with a shitty staff right now.  Other than Hillary, everyone else is marginal to replaceable.

[SLCPUNK]

Still trying to paint me as some neocon right wing fanatic....

Nope, just a guy who defaults back to Bush as a scapegoat for lack of argument. When you can't reply you just say "You hate Bush." Now that Bush is no longer President, it's been modified to "Bush is no longer President."

Funny how that works.

Besides aren't you the same bitch who blames 9-11 on Clinton and the financial meltdown on the Dems from 15 years ago? Talk about some hypocritical double talk horseshit.

Yeah, u gotta judge Obama by what HE does.

Right, he admitted fault, said he "screwed up" and is ready to move on. Something Bush has NEVER been able to do for the last eight years. I'd file that under change, humility (ie, lack of world class hubris) and somebody who respects the position he holds.

How is it a scandal? Obama admitted fault and Tom is gone. Where is the scandal?

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Still trying to paint me as some neocon right wing fanatic....

Nope, just a guy who defaults back to Bush as a scapegoat for lack of argument. When you can't reply you just say "You hate Bush." Now that Bush is no longer President, it's been modified to "Bush is no longer President."

Funny how that works.

Besides aren't you the same bitch who blames 9-11 on Clinton and the financial meltdown on the Dems from 15 years ago? Talk about some hypocritical double talk horseshit.

Yeah, u gotta judge Obama by what HE does.

Right, he admitted fault, said he "screwed up" and is ready to move on. Something Bush has NEVER been able to do for the last eight years. I'd file that under change, humility (ie, lack of world class hubris) and somebody who respects the position he holds.

How is it a scandal? Obama admitted fault and Tom is gone. Where is the scandal?

 Punk, seems like you have no interest in an honest discussion of the Obama administration, all you seem to do is make excuses and have this knee-jerk reaction of telling us how bad Bush was when faced by a shortcoming of Obama or any democrat is brought up. You'd rather argue with anyone who does not heap praise on Obama and democrats.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Ouch! It is even more now......calling this a stimulus bill is deceptive & misleading - 30% stimulus,  70%  goody package / spending spree.......Obama needs to tell Pelosi & Reid to pull out the pork and only keep things that will actually stimulate the economy within a short amount of time. Rushing thru the last stimulus proved disastrous (ie.  banks did not use the money  like they should have) - why repeat the same mistake?


Obama economic plan now tops $900 billion

WASHINGTON ? The cost of President Barack Obama's economic recovery plan is now above $900 billion after the Senate added money for medical research and tax breaks for car purchases.

It could go higher Wednesday if a tax break for homebuyers is made more generous, even as centrists in both parties promise to clear away spending items that won't jump-start the economy right away.

In an interview on CNN, Obama signaled a willingness to drop items that "may not really stimulate the economy right now." He also signaled he'll try to remove "buy American" provisions in the legislation to avoid a possible trade war.

In a victory for auto manufacturers and dealers, Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., won a 71-26 vote to allow most car buyers to claim an income tax deduction for sales taxes paid on new autos and interest payments on car loans. The break would cost $11 billion over the coming decade but could mean savings of $1,500 on a $25,000 car.

"Just as we need to get the housing market going, we need to get auto sales going," said Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich.

Wednesday's session could produce even more generous savings for homebuyers.

Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., is pressing for a tax credit of up to $15,000 for everyone who buys a home this year, at a cost of $18.5 billion. The pending measure would award a $7,500 tax credit only to first-time homebuyers.

At the same time, centrist senators, including Ben Nelson, D-Neb., and Susan Collins, R-Maine, are seeking to cut tens of billions of dollars from the legislation. They're operating with the blessing of Democratic leaders, who hope a successful effort could attract some GOP votes for Obama's plan.

Democratic leaders conceded they may soon be obliged to cut billions of dollars from the measure. "It goes without saying if it's going to pass in the Senate, it has to be bipartisan," said Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the second-ranking Democratic leader, adding that rank-and-file lawmakers in both parties want to reduce the cost of the bill.

In a series of skirmishes Tuesday, the Senate turned back a proposal to add $25 billion for public works projects and voted to remove a $246 million tax break for movie producers. Both moves were engineered by Republicans who are critical of the bill's size and voice skepticism of its ability to create jobs.

But several hours later, GOP conservatives didn't contest approval of a $6.5 billion increase in research funding for the politically popular National Institutes of Health. That amendment, by Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, drove the price tag of Obama's plan just above $900 billion.

Democratic leaders have pledged to have the bill ready for Obama's signature by mid-month, and in a round of network television interviews Tuesday, the president underscored the urgency. He told CNN that even three months ago, most economists would not have predicted the economy was "in as bad of a situation as we are in right now."

He also spoke out against efforts to require the use of domestic steel in construction projects envisioned in the bill, telling Fox News, "We can't send a protectionist message."

Mikulski's office put the cost of the automobile tax break she sponsored at $11 billion over 10 years. It would apply to the first $49,500 in the price of a new car purchased between last Nov. 12 and Dec. 31, 2009. Individuals with incomes of up to $125,000 and couples earnings as much as $250,000 could qualify, including those who do not itemize their deductions.

Republicans are expected to seek a vote later in the week on a plan to inject the government into the mortgage industry in an attempt to drive down interest rates on mortgages to as low as 4 percent. Democrats treaded carefully on the proposal, saying they would consider it but also claiming the $300 billion Republicans allocated would not come close to accommodating the demand.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_on_go_co/congress_stimulus

[SLCPUNK]

 Punk, seems like you have no interest in an honest discussion of the Obama administration, all you seem to do is make excuses and have this knee-jerk reaction of telling us how bad Bush was when faced by a shortcoming of Obama or any democrat is brought up. You'd rather argue with anyone who does not heap praise on Obama and democrats.

Patently false. All one has to do is read my posts. Like I JUST said, Obama has addressed it, admitted his mistake (ie, "I screwed up") and has proceeded forward. Hate to break it to you pal, but Bush left us with a huge steaming pile of shit to clean up. So unfortunately for you, he will be brought up. Considering Obama's policies will be a direct contrast, there is no way not to talk about it.

But like I said, you're the one who is unable to talk about the issues. You're the one you resorts to dumbing it down, and claiming everybody just "hates Bush." Now you've just changed it to "Haven't you heard...."

 When you can't reply you just say "You hate Bush." Now that Bush is no longer President, it's been modified to "Bush is no longer President."

Funny how that works.

[SLCPUNK]

Ouch! It is even more now......calling this a stimulus bill is deceptive & misleading - 30% stimulus,  70%  goody package / spending spree.......Obama needs to tell Pelosi & Reid to pull out the pork and only keep things that will actually stimulate the economy within a short amount of time. Rushing thru the last stimulus proved disastrous (ie.  banks did not use the money  like they should have) - why repeat the same mistake?

Why is this stimulus bill even under consideration? Have you read any of the fourth quarter reports? Manufacturing? Housing? Retail? Auto industry? Financial?

You act as if Obama is just some wide eyed big spender whose doing this for kicks. Did the version prior work?