What?s the deal with the Vinyl revival?

[Hammy]

And you have an Enuff Z' Nuff single, woah!

Haha, I also have a fair few Ratt and Poison albums 

[mrlee]

And you have an Enuff Z' Nuff single, woah!

Haha, I also have a fair few Ratt and Poison albums 

RATT, awesome. Which ones? hopefully Out of the Cellar and Invasion of your Privacy, those two are classics.
Extra kudos if you have the RATT EP.

[Hammy]

And you have an Enuff Z' Nuff single, woah!

Haha, I also have a fair few Ratt and Poison albums 

RATT, awesome. Which ones? hopefully Out of the Cellar and Invasion of your Privacy, those two are classics.
Extra kudos if you have the RATT EP.

'Tis the EP and Invasion... Picked them up in a charity shop, they really are one of the ultimate places for collecting, although you have to be careful now they are getting smarter and pricing things higher...

[mrlee]

yeah some old RATT t-shirts on ebay were selling for stupid prices!

[Hammy]

yeah some old RATT t-shirts on ebay were selling for stupid prices!

Haha no I don't mean Ratt specifically I mean charity shops.  Vinyls used to be real cheap and they had no idea what some were worth, now though, they KNOW when they have good lps and price them up, unfortunately...

...D probably won't like me saying this, but as far as rock artists go, Bon Jovi's records were all over charity shops i've been to, more so than any other rock artist. 

[JuicySwoos]

yeah some old RATT t-shirts on ebay were selling for stupid prices!

Haha no I don't mean Ratt specifically I mean charity shops.  Vinyls used to be real cheap and they had no idea what some were worth, now though, they KNOW when they have good lps and price them up, unfortunately...

...D probably won't like me saying this, but as far as rock artists go, Bon Jovi's records were all over charity shops i've been to, more so than any other rock artist. 

I picked up "shout at the devil", and a few AC/DC records last week for only a buck a pop at the good ole goodwill last week.  They are a great place to find cheap vinyl. 

[Butch Français]

Its has nothing to do with sound

It has everything to do with being a pretenious wanker

'oh I listen to the album on vinyl, you mean you dont?! Oh how drool'
 
Its like smoking weed - those that do it have to tell everyone else in some desperate attempt at self validation

Vinyl died because it was shite

Vinyl died because CD's are a shinier and cheaper toy (to make, no to buy, of course). Easier packaging, lower freight, more units. Now they want to get rid of that too. All digital, straight from an automated hit machine. Flushing out copy after copy of the easiest digestible, most forgettable plastic sounds made for man, attached to a jerk off inducing busty digistar.

Vinyl represents a time when a little effort went into what once used to be about the art. And the sound is indeed better, if you're listening to real music.

as opposed to fake music.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

yeah some old RATT t-shirts on ebay were selling for stupid prices!

Haha no I don't mean Ratt specifically I mean charity shops.  Vinyls used to be real cheap and they had no idea what some were worth, now though, they KNOW when they have good lps and price them up, unfortunately...

...D probably won't like me saying this, but as far as rock artists go, Bon Jovi's records were all over charity shops i've been to, more so than any other rock artist. 

I picked up "shout at the devil", and a few AC/DC records last week for only a buck a pop at the good ole goodwill last week.  They are a great place to find cheap vinyl. 

Yep, 92 cent classics at Goodwill.

[Albert S Miller]

I have been playing CD on my record player daily,  yesterday it finally occurred to me that I don't have any 45's left in my life, then it got me thinking how cool it would be if GNR actually put out one of their singles for all of us born again vinal lovers onto a 45.  I'm sure the possibility doesn't even exist, but for me and maybe a few others out here would be great to have.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Chinese Democracy (the song) was put out on a 45!

[Albert S Miller]

Chinese Democracy (the song) was put out on a 45!

I really had no idea, thank you so much

[Albert S Miller]

K... where do I find it plez?
 

[Layflats]

The simple answer is vinyl does sound better.  Analog recording in general is still the best way to hear rock n roll.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

K... where do I find it plez?
 

I think you had to pre-order it from HMV.

[Albert S Miller]

K... where do I find it plez?
 

I think you had to pre-order it from HMV.

Thanks again

[Gunner80]

Sound in its nature is analogue so vinyl is the best way to hear music as it is a complete identical copy of the master. Digital is based on highs and lows and works by filling in those gaps where the other frequencies should be (not all of them) so the human ear doesn't notice. When those frequencies are all in the signal like they are supposed to be you can hear the difference. I generally find drums on vinyl to be far more punchy and better represented than on cd.

No it is not an "identical" copy of the master - nice try though. Nothing beats a live instrument.

[mrlee]

The simple answer is vinyl does sound better.  Analog recording in general is still the best way to hear rock n roll.

You know im sure CD is the superior, the only reason it doesnt sound so good lately is the bands compressing everything when they record. Thats nothin to do with the CD.

[Layflats]

The technical answer is this.

Digital - You have a top and bottom end limit to frequencies.  You see things like 44.1 K, 48K, 96K.  A computer is analyzing and putting the frequencies (sounds) onto a bit map.  The higher the number, the bigger the map. When you put it to compact disc, you go back to 16 bit. Hi-def sets you up at 24 bit.

Analog - Tape frequency range is infinite.  So most high level bands can afford to record tracks on 2" tape and lose no frequency range.  Then you can put the master onto say 1 or 1/2" tape and lose none of the frequency range.  Yet, when it is transfered to disc, it still has to convert to 16 bit digital, then it sounds "squashed".  The big $ amounts in studios are spent on the best analog to digital converters. Vinyl on the other hand has the same properties recording-wise as tape, so the original frequency ranges are left in tact.

In all fairness, 96K/24 bit has helped in this regard, but you still have to put the thing on this 16 bit cd, unless you again go hi-def to 24 bit.  The flip side is the integrity of the cd is easier to keep vs. vinyl.  You have to take good care of vinyl or you get skips and pops more readily.  Plus, it's a real bitch to play vinyl in the car.  The cassette tape went away because of degradation.  You play a tape a hundred times and the magnetic force that keeps the sound on the tape starts to weaken.

Mathematically, analog is the best way to fly.

Also would agree nothing beats a rocking live band.