Guns ?N Roses: Dynamics and quality win the Loudness Wars

[AC]

There were two things that I wished for on this album:

1) No songs fade away; and,
2) Very little to no compression - full dynamics.

Both my wishes came true. It truly is a masterpiece...

a.

[Pinball Wizard]

There were two things that I wished for on this album:

1) No songs fade away;

Shit, I thought I was the only who hated this!!!

Songs that ends with fade out SUCKS! 

[SINSHINE]

There were two things that I wished for on this album:

1) No songs fade away;

Shit, I thought I was the only who hated this!!!

Songs that ends with fade out SUCKS! 

Do you forgive 'Prostitute' for fading out, as it is the last song on the album (granted, not a traditional 'fade out' while lyrics are still being sung, but still a fade out)?

[Pinball Wizard]

There were two things that I wished for on this album:

1) No songs fade away;

Shit, I thought I was the only who hated this!!!

Songs that ends with fade out SUCKS! 

Do you forgive 'Prostitute' for fading out, as it is the last song on the album (granted, not a traditional 'fade out' while lyrics are still being sung, but still a fade out)?

Well, Prostitute is my least favorite song from CD, but yet, it's fade out is what I like to call a "natural" fade out, I mean, is a fade out that can be reproduced by the band if they're playing the song live, it's not like Nightrain's studio version, for exemple...

[jazjme]

This is something, I also really enjoy, every song has a proper end, and no fade out. Even Prostitute, it hs a cclassic fade but a swell at very end concluding it.

[AC]

There were two things that I wished for on this album:

1) No songs fade away;

Shit, I thought I was the only who hated this!!!

Songs that ends with fade out SUCKS! 

Do you forgive 'Prostitute' for fading out, as it is the last song on the album (granted, not a traditional 'fade out' while lyrics are still being sung, but still a fade out)?

Well, Prostitute is my least favorite song from CD, but yet, it's fade out is what I like to call a "natural" fade out, I mean, is a fade out that can be reproduced by the band if they're playing the song live, it's not like Nightrain's studio version, for exemple...

Prostitute does not fade out. There's a string arrangement at the end that plays and becomes naturally softer and is composed that way. It's not the same thing as Nightrain as mentioned.

a.

[Pinball Wizard]

There were two things that I wished for on this album:

1) No songs fade away;

Shit, I thought I was the only who hated this!!!

Songs that ends with fade out SUCKS! 

Do you forgive 'Prostitute' for fading out, as it is the last song on the album (granted, not a traditional 'fade out' while lyrics are still being sung, but still a fade out)?

Well, Prostitute is my least favorite song from CD, but yet, it's fade out is what I like to call a "natural" fade out, I mean, is a fade out that can be reproduced by the band if they're playing the song live, it's not like Nightrain's studio version, for exemple...

Prostitute does not fade out. There's a string arrangement at the end that plays and becomes naturally softer and is composed that way. It's not the same thing as Nightrain as mentioned.

a.

Exactly. That's why I said it's some sort of "natural" fade out, because it's part of the song's arrangement. Different than selecting the last 30seconds of the song on pro tools and make an artificial fade out out of it...

[AC]

There were two things that I wished for on this album:

1) No songs fade away;

Shit, I thought I was the only who hated this!!!

Songs that ends with fade out SUCKS! 

Do you forgive 'Prostitute' for fading out, as it is the last song on the album (granted, not a traditional 'fade out' while lyrics are still being sung, but still a fade out)?

Well, Prostitute is my least favorite song from CD, but yet, it's fade out is what I like to call a "natural" fade out, I mean, is a fade out that can be reproduced by the band if they're playing the song live, it's not like Nightrain's studio version, for exemple...

Prostitute does not fade out. There's a string arrangement at the end that plays and becomes naturally softer and is composed that way. It's not the same thing as Nightrain as mentioned.

a.

Exactly. That's why I said it's some sort of "natural" fade out, because it's part of the song's arrangement. Different than selecting the last 30seconds of the song on pro tools and make an artificial fade out out of it...

I know. I was agreeing with you, didn't come off that way though. My bad.

a.

[wells]

some more discussion on CD from a different angle (most of the time)... for me it is way more interesting than most of the topics lately about Axl AWOL or Robin leaving...

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/mastering-forum/344568-guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy.html

hope some others will enjoy it also.

[King Axl]

I have to agree with Mr. Ludwig's comments about how layered and complex the songs are. After 30+ listenings of the record, I am still hearing things I hadn't heard before.

One of these days I'm going to listen to the CD through headphones and be totally awestruck.

It's also pretty cool that the CD was mastered up in Portland, Maine. That's only about 75 miles away from me.