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November 26, 2008, 10:23:50 AM »
Quote from: FunkyMonkey on November 26, 2008, 09:47:42 AM
GUNS N' ROSES' 'Democracy' Tops iTunes Rock Albums Charts Across The Globe - Nov. 26, 2008
According to antiMUSIC, GUNS N' ROSES' "Chinese Democracy" has topped the iTunes Rock Albums charts across the globe. The long-awaited effort took the lead on the charts in U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Finland, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland. The only odd ball holdout was Norway, where GN'R was No. 2 to TIM CHRISTENSEN's "Superior".
GN'R is currently on top of the overall iTunes album charts in Germany, France, Austria, Belgium, Finland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, New Zealand, Sweden, and Switzerland. In the U.S., they are No. 4 behind releases from KANYE WEST, THE KILLERS and COLDPLAY.
They have been denied the No. 1 by THE KILLERS in the UK, Australia, Norway, Portugal and Spain. In France they are No 2. behind SEAL's new album "Soul". And it's a battle of egos in Canada where KANYE WEST is keeping GN'R from topping the overall iTunes album chart.
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=109661
Maybe it'll "only" sell a million or two in the US in this current climate, but the world wide sales will be the true defining figure. Of course, they will do a true world tour shortly also...
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November 26, 2008, 12:54:13 PM »
whoever takes care of the statistics... here's another one where CD (The album) is first on the charts
http://www.aquarius-records.com/
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Quote from: neon2002 on November 26, 2008, 08:37:09 AM
Quote from: Brendan on November 25, 2008, 08:56:05 AM
Quote from: bolton on November 25, 2008, 08:50:45 AM
i found this
http://www.apple.com/euro/itunes/charts/top10rockalbums.html
what mean "itunes",i mean in % of whole selling
c'mon Denmark...fall in line like every other country on the list
It's also doing well on the Top 10 albums and not just the Rock Chart
http://www.apple.com/euro/itunes/charts/top10albums.html
Mostly #1 and #2 in all the countries listed.
Very impressive!
GNR dropped to 5th in the USA.
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November 26, 2008, 01:34:45 PM »
maybe it's up to us to put axl over the top like the old days. maybe all the htgth gunners in the us should go buy another 5 or 10 copies of the album. if we did that, it'd surely put the final nail in kanye's coffin!
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Kanye was all over the American Music Awards. Free publicity for his dogshit album. GNR had better crash the Grammys MTV style.
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Quote from: Alfie Bones on November 26, 2008, 01:37:30 PM
Kanye was all over the American Music Awards. Free publicity for his dogshit album. GNR had better crash the Grammys MTV style.
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http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news07362
KANYE CAUSES HEARTBREAK FOR CHALLENGERS
West?s New Album Will Approach 500k, as Guns (300k), Ludacris (225k) and The Killers (200k) All Trail
November 26, 2008
Kanye?s the king of Thanksgiving week.
West's Roc-a-Fella/Def Jam album, 808s and Heartbreak, in which he tackles the Auto-Tuner and his own inner demons, will be #1 on next Tuesday?s chart with a total that looks to be between 450-500k.
That?ll be more than enough to beat back Axl Rose and his first Guns N? Roses album in some 15 years, Chinese Democracy, which will move around 300k, more or less, out of Best Buy outlets. And that?s including the 25k or so not counted opening week at iTunes for the Sunday release.
Ludacris? Island Def Jam album, Theater of the Mind, looks good for 225k, followed by the other one of IDJ?s big holiday power trio, The
Killers? Day and Age, clocking in with 200k more or less.
Finally, what would the turkey shoot be without Barry Manilow? The "Copacabana" guy scores 85k for his new Arista/RMG album, The Greatest Songs of the Eighties, thanks to huge QVC sales.
Coldplay?s Prospekt?s March EP on Capitol will chalk up between 75-80k, while Capitol Nashville?s Trace Adkins appears headed for the 40-45k area for his new album, X.
After some Monday confusion over release dates (all three major circulars advertised the IDJ albums coming on Tuesday), the numbers seem back to normal.
Meanwhile, the market was up 6% vs. last week, down 32% vs. same week last year and now down 14% year to date. Feels like a tryptophan hangover even before the turkey is served.
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Quote from: Alfie Bones on November 26, 2008, 01:37:30 PM
Kanye was all over the American Music Awards. Free publicity for his dogshit album. GNR had better crash the Grammys MTV style.
That is the best point made so far. I'm sorry, you can say video video video all you want, but videos are dead in the U.S. I'm telling you - there's nowhere to watch them. That's not an important medium anymore.
And for the people who say "yeah, but it'll get (x) amount of hits on YouTube - those MySpace hits obviously didn't translate to booming business, so why would that be any different? Certainly CD as an album was anticipated by many people, even casual fans. A video is not.
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Its not even Thursday but yet and they can already tell how many albums will sell this week? Reminds me of political exit polls or some shit.
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Quote from: JuicySwoos on November 26, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
Its not even Thursday but yet and they can already tell how many albums will sell this week? Reminds me of political exit polls or some shit.
You really think anything will change over the next 4 days? Maybe we can all refresh ourselves on standard deviations and realize that there is a 99.7% chance that Kanye will get #1?
Sucks that it won't get #1... hopefully the album will have legs.
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Quote from: JuicySwoos on November 26, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
Its not even Thursday but yet and they can already tell how many albums will sell this week? Reminds me of political exit polls or some shit.
You really think anything will change over the next 4 days? Maybe we can all refresh ourselves on standard deviations and realize that there is a 99.7% chance that Kanye will get #1?
Sucks that it won't get #1... hopefully the album will have legs.
Not the point. But thanks for your expertise on the matter.
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It will be a sad day if GNR doesn't sell more than Kanye. I think GNR can sell way more than 300k. I am not the one to criticize music but can Kanye really sing??? Is it my imagination that he sounds bad and should stick to rapping. There is not much computers can do to hide this. Don't get me wrong Kanye is very creative but come on... I guess I am out of touch and am becoming old.
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Quote from: JuicySwoos on November 26, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
Its not even Thursday but yet and they can already tell how many albums will sell this week? Reminds me of political exit polls or some shit.
I don't know how they do the math, but they're normally pretty accurate... Maybe it will be 310,000 or 320,000 but I'd be surprised if they're off by much more than that.
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Quote from: JuicySwoos on November 26, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
Its not even Thursday but yet and they can already tell how many albums will sell this week? Reminds me of political exit polls or some shit.
I don't know how they do the math, but they're normally pretty accurate... Maybe it will be 310,000 or 320,000 but I'd be surprised if they're off by much more than that.
Yeah. I was not doubting the accuracy, just wondering how they know already.
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Quote from: JuicySwoos on November 26, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
Its not even Thursday but yet and they can already tell how many albums will sell this week? Reminds me of political exit polls or some shit.
I don't know how they do the math, but they're normally pretty accurate... Maybe it will be 310,000 or 320,000 but I'd be surprised if they're off by much more than that.
Yeah. I was not doubting the accuracy, just wondering how they know already.
I think they basically know the day by day sales patterns for each day of the week (and each week of the year), and once they've seen the sales for enough of the week they can do a pretty accurate 'guestimate' at what sales will be for the remaining days.
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Quote from: JuicySwoos on November 26, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
Its not even Thursday but yet and they can already tell how many albums will sell this week? Reminds me of political exit polls or some shit.
I don't know how they do the math, but they're normally pretty accurate... Maybe it will be 310,000 or 320,000 but I'd be surprised if they're off by much more than that.
The funny thing is just yesterday, HDD was saying 300-500k and that their prediction was more of a crapshoot than usual. I wonder how they got so much more accurate in a day?
Soundscan data is released on a weekly basis, so what are they basing this prediction off of?
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Quote from: Ali on November 26, 2008, 05:14:51 PM
Quote from: demo23nz on November 26, 2008, 04:57:06 PM
Quote from: JuicySwoos on November 26, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
Its not even Thursday but yet and they can already tell how many albums will sell this week? Reminds me of political exit polls or some shit.
I don't know how they do the math, but they're normally pretty accurate... Maybe it will be 310,000 or 320,000 but I'd be surprised if they're off by much more than that.
The funny thing is just yesterday, HDD was saying 300-500k and that their prediction was more of a crapshoot than usual. I wonder how they got so much more accurate in a day?
Another day strengthens the data on how the sales are dropping/holding steady/gaining each day. One day isn't a lot, but when it's one of seven it improves the accuracy of their data significantly.
We'll see though I guess. The numbers could wind up being a bit off, it has been an odd release timing wise... But I doubt they'll be so off as to be wrong about #1 and #2.
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Quote from: JuicySwoos on November 26, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
Its not even Thursday but yet and they can already tell how many albums will sell this week? Reminds me of political exit polls or some shit.
I've seen these before. They're based on first day sales and projections and are usually pretty accurate. It looks like CD won't go #1.
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Based on what's being reported, it sounds like it probably won't go to #1, but I wouldn't rule it out yet completely.
I do strongly believe this is the kind of album that will take some getting used to for many music listeners. I think the key is to get the right song out there that connects with people in a special way, much in the way SCOM did back in '88. When that happens, I expect that album to rocket back up in the charts and stay at #1 for awhile.
It's disappointing it probably won't go to #1 right off the bat, but there is a lot more to happen with this album, I think.
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