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« Reply #180 on: November 11, 2008, 05:46:22 PM »

some collectors would have liked to support the gnr camp in buying the physical cd single only and also before the album release - but the industry doesnt offer that one or some kind of uncompressed quality audio for download. so its just waiting ~2more weeks, yep.

And some fans support the band by purchasing what's available.

It's the mp3 or nothing at the moment.





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« Reply #181 on: November 11, 2008, 05:52:59 PM »

there is still a huge market for an physical album at least. single cds might not make much money anymore, still would have been nice to get one from cd and such a big band name. about the itunes DRM....not totally sure but didnt the major labels drop that because the customers didnt like supporting that?
if its the only-download-way to go: why not offering mp3 + flac for different prices? easy to do/nothing to loose!
i remember i was fearing and posting about this issue here months ago when we've talked about releasing ideas of cd. oh well, 2 more weeks only  Smiley

I am an audophile of sorts myself, and think it is sad that with the advancement in technology we've actually taken a huge step back in sound quality as a result of MP3's and the  "loudness war".   I understand your frustions, but having CD on itunes is a good thing for the band and a good thing for the fans and consumers, regardless of the formats available.  I think there is growing market  for flac and other high fidelity formats which wil result in more choices in the future, but for now itunes and mp3 are the standard.  Like Jarmo said, I can't wait to listen to CD in all its high fi glory...bring on vinyl!!!
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« Reply #182 on: November 11, 2008, 05:53:55 PM »

Up to #14 on the US general iTunes charts, #1 rock song

Is there any way of seeing how many sales it has?

I know that hit singles by Kanye & Britney sold 200,000 + in the first week and they soared up the charts... I'm not expecting that much, but I'm a little curious.
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« Reply #183 on: November 11, 2008, 06:15:22 PM »

after some trouble finally some german fans could get a physical cd-single release called "Trendsingle":



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« Reply #184 on: November 11, 2008, 06:23:37 PM »

after some trouble finally some german fans could get a physical cd-single release called "Trendsingle":




What exactly is "trendsingle"?



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« Reply #185 on: November 11, 2008, 06:27:43 PM »

Its no.20 in Ireland on iTunes. Can't believe Beyoncee is no.1 The words in her song are ridiculous. I hope Axl gives the music world a good shake up
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« Reply #186 on: November 11, 2008, 06:35:07 PM »

it seems that "Trendsingles" (at least in Germany) do always have some standard layout with the logo from the record label (or smth. similar) on it and that those singles are produced from upcoming album releases which have bigger expections salewise - but not singlewise.....its also an alternative for the download option, something i'd voted for. its simple, not cheap but still physical  Smiley
i am not aware how easily those are available im general or specially this one. the german fans had a hard time to get it though.
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« Reply #187 on: November 11, 2008, 06:41:42 PM »

it seems that "Trendsingles" (at least in Germany) do always have some standard layout with the logo from the record label (or smth. similar) on it and that those singles are produced from upcoming album releases which have bigger expections salewise - but not singlewise.....its also an alternative for the download option, something i'd voted for. its simple, not cheap but still physical  Smiley
i am not aware how easily those are available im general or specially this one. the german fans had a hard time to get it though.


Ok, so like a budget version of a CD single.

Standard artwork etc.



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« Reply #188 on: November 11, 2008, 07:35:22 PM »

Well, even though I'm not able to have the fucking legal mp3 (because my local iTunes doesn't have it) or the physical CD-single (because it doesnt exist), I would like to say some things about this subject:

* I would love to be able to download a legal lossless version of the track. I cant understand why a major band like GNR cant provide, at least, the FLAC option next to the mp3. I also will never understand how can music industry show such a drastic regression, from offering lossless version as THE ONLY OPTION, to offering lossy, super-compressed formats like MP3 as the standard. Damn! You can play WAV files in every single iPod, MP3 player, standalone DVD players, personal computers... everything! You can also play WMA Lossless files in these players, which can be digitally protected using a license!

* But offering as the ONLY possibility a lossy version of the track is not a good reason for me not to buy it. I really want to feel a part of this, supporting the band. But... I really cant download the track because I live in southamerica! How can be countries like Argentina, Brazil or Chile unable to get the single, with all the massive amounts of fanatics they have!

I feel a little frustrated with all this subject. Maybe my problem is not related to GNR, but with capitalism itself. I dont even have a confirmed release date for my country, being 10 days away from 23/11!

I am the kind of guy who would have bought EVERYTHING the band had offered. And I think there is a very big number of people in my same conditions.

Anyway, this doesnt modifies my enthusiasm and my excitement at all, and I'm very happy, nervous, and proud (all at the same time) for being 10 days away from the album I've waited half of my life.
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« Reply #189 on: November 11, 2008, 07:42:44 PM »

by the way, ''Chinese Democracy'' is #1 at 10 countries  beer

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« Reply #190 on: November 11, 2008, 08:47:33 PM »

Haha, holy shit, check out Spain! Grin
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« Reply #191 on: November 11, 2008, 08:57:47 PM »

UPDATE: It is #13 overall in the US.
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« Reply #192 on: November 11, 2008, 09:40:47 PM »

Well, even though I'm not able to have the fucking legal mp3 (because my local iTunes doesn't have it) or the physical CD-single (because it doesnt exist), I would like to say some things about this subject:

* I would love to be able to download a legal lossless version of the track. I cant understand why a major band like GNR cant provide, at least, the FLAC option next to the mp3. I also will never understand how can music industry show such a drastic regression, from offering lossless version as THE ONLY OPTION, to offering lossy, super-compressed formats like MP3 as the standard. Damn! You can play WAV files in every single iPod, MP3 player, standalone DVD players, personal computers... everything! You can also play WMA Lossless files in these players, which can be digitally protected using a license!

* But offering as the ONLY possibility a lossy version of the track is not a good reason for me not to buy it. I really want to feel a part of this, supporting the band. But... I really cant download the track because I live in southamerica! How can be countries like Argentina, Brazil or Chile unable to get the single, with all the massive amounts of fanatics they have!

I feel a little frustrated with all this subject. Maybe my problem is not related to GNR, but with capitalism itself. I dont even have a confirmed release date for my country, being 10 days away from 23/11!

I am the kind of guy who would have bought EVERYTHING the band had offered. And I think there is a very big number of people in my same conditions.

Anyway, this doesnt modifies my enthusiasm and my excitement at all, and I'm very happy, nervous, and proud (all at the same time) for being 10 days away from the album I've waited half of my life.

Apple also has a lossless compression codec that could be used for iTunes downloads. They just choose not to bother with it.
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« Reply #193 on: November 11, 2008, 11:08:58 PM »

Chinese Democracy has currently slipped to 14th over all in the USA ITUNES.  It is still the #1 rock song on USA ITUNES.


Remember, you can download the song more than once.
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« Reply #194 on: November 11, 2008, 11:50:31 PM »

by the way, ''Chinese Democracy'' is #1 at 10 countries  beer




Yeah, but how many electoral votes is Axl really winning there?  I mean come on now, Luxembourg?   hihi

Seriously, I don't know if this has been answered yet or not, if we have already pre-ordered the album, are we eligible to get the free download?  confused
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« Reply #195 on: November 12, 2008, 03:29:48 AM »

UPDATE: It is #13 overall in the US.

Americans wouldnt know a good song if it bit them in the ass...We are too busy having the latest Britney Spears bullshit clog up the airwaves...
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« Reply #196 on: November 12, 2008, 03:56:51 AM »

UPDATE: Chinese Democracy just went to #1 on the Norwegian overall iTunes chart  Grin
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« Reply #197 on: November 12, 2008, 05:36:58 AM »

UPDATE: Chinese Democracy just went to #1 on the Norwegian overall iTunes chart  Grin

And the album is #5 overall, #1 on the Rock list!
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« Reply #198 on: November 12, 2008, 07:45:36 AM »

UPDATE: It is #13 overall in the US.

Americans wouldnt know a good song if it bit them in the ass...We are too busy having the latest Britney Spears bullshit clog up the airwaves...

Don't generalize about a people or a country. It is currently #1 on the rock genre. It is #13 in the general catagory going against songs that have been out and promoted for a longer period of time.
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« Reply #199 on: November 12, 2008, 08:52:33 AM »

UPDATE: It is #13 overall in the US.

Americans wouldnt know a good song if it bit them in the ass...We are too busy having the latest Britney Spears bullshit clog up the airwaves...
You mean the song with the groundbreaking chorus, "Womanizer, womanizer.  You're a woman, womanizer.  Oooooh, ooooh, ooooh yeah.  Ooooh, oooooh, oooooh yeah."

You can't possibly deny the greatness in those lyrics.

It is amazing what some people consider good music.  It baffles me.
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