"Chinese Democracy" chart placing/predictions

[EagleDiver182]

Guns N Roses' Chinese Democracy single entered USA Today's airplay charts at #19 for this week!! Considering it hasnt even been out a full week and is just the first week!

http://www.q1043.com/cc-common/top20/usa_today/?fmt_id=Active%20Rock

[Ali]

Guns N Roses' Chinese Democracy single entered USA Today's airplay charts at #19 for this week!! Considering it hasnt even been out a full week and is just the first week!

http://www.q1043.com/cc-common/top20/usa_today/?fmt_id=Active%20Rock

Yeah, that isn't even the most up to date Active Rock chart.

It's actually cracked the top ten already on the Mainstream Rock chart.

Ali

[JuicySwoos]

I think the USA today chart is based on airplay over a 12 week period.....so if GNR are debuting with 700+ spins, and the top song has 2100 spins, it should climb really quick unless it just falls off the airwaves.

[adman2374]

AC/DC's "Black Ice" is flying off the shelves at Wal-Mart and Sam's Club, the exclusive U.S. retailers for the album that arrived yesterday (Oct. 21). Sources estimate the set sold 193,000 copies in its first day of sale, and could move upward of 800,000 in its first week.



U gotta figure CD will at least do that good.

I'm astonished the AC/DC record is doing that well.  Maybe there really is something to this 'exclusive retailer' thing.  Damn, if AC/DC hits 800,000, I hope that GN'R would at least hit that much in the first week.

Ali

DO you have any clue about how HUGE AC/DC's fan base is? If you did , you shouldn't be surprised with how well their cd is doing....

Uh, yes, I do.  I own 12 AC/DC albums.

But, if you knew how well the last album, Stiff Upper Lip, sold, you might be surprised at how well this one is selling.  The last album sold 193, 000 copies in the first week and nearly a million overall.

Just for a little perspective there.

Ali

Ok, but you need to update the way you think about how cd's are sold since the last ac/dc album came out. the big box retailer exclusives really have helped the big, established acts move product....

[acompleteunknown]

I estimate about 500,000 first week sales for the Gunners...but i hate to say it...I don't think they'll get the #1.

Kayne, Killers, Ludacris all come out the same day.  Kayne probably has the best chance at the #1.

[TheSod75]

I estimate about 500,000 first week sales for the Gunners...but i hate to say it...I don't think they'll get the #1.

Kayne, Killers, Ludacris all come out the same day.  Kayne probably has the best chance at the #1.

While they'll certainly be facing stiff competition, I'm thinking 'Chinese Democracy' will at least approach a million copies the first week it's out. AC/DC's latest album is doing quite well, much better than their two previous releases did out of the gate. And GnR's album has been in the works for 14 years. There's a curiosity factor with this record that doesn't exist with most other releases. And if you look how well the single is doing its first week, the demand is certainly there for Guns N Roses. I think Guns and Kanye will have a nice duel for the top spot, with Guns coming out on top....

[acompleteunknown]

Kayne's last album, Graduation, had first week sales of 950,000 and demolished 50 cent's new release.

They should top Ludacris who had 300,000 first week sales of his last release.

But with two major hip-hop artists driving fans to stores...could be a tall order for the gunners.

I hope GNR can do it...but it wont be easy.

[Ali]

AC/DC's "Black Ice" is flying off the shelves at Wal-Mart and Sam's Club, the exclusive U.S. retailers for the album that arrived yesterday (Oct. 21). Sources estimate the set sold 193,000 copies in its first day of sale, and could move upward of 800,000 in its first week.



U gotta figure CD will at least do that good.

I'm astonished the AC/DC record is doing that well.  Maybe there really is something to this 'exclusive retailer' thing.  Damn, if AC/DC hits 800,000, I hope that GN'R would at least hit that much in the first week.

Ali

DO you have any clue about how HUGE AC/DC's fan base is? If you did , you shouldn't be surprised with how well their cd is doing....

Uh, yes, I do.  I own 12 AC/DC albums.

But, if you knew how well the last album, Stiff Upper Lip, sold, you might be surprised at how well this one is selling.  The last album sold 193, 000 copies in the first week and nearly a million overall.

Just for a little perspective there.

Ali

Ok, but you need to update the way you think about how cd's are sold since the last ac/dc album came out. the big box retailer exclusives really have helped the big, established acts move product....

There is helping big, established acts move product and then there is a greater than 4x increase in first week sales and nearly matching the last album's sales in one week.  It's a night and day difference.

Ali

[TheSod75]

Kayne's last album, Graduation, had first week sales of 950,000 and demolished 50 cent's new release.

They should top Ludacris who had 300,000 first week sales of his last release.

But with two major hip-hop artists driving fans to stores...could be a tall order for the gunners.

I hope GNR can do it...but it wont be easy.

Guns will also have a two-day headstart on everyone that week...another factor to consider......

[adman2374]

AC/DC's "Black Ice" is flying off the shelves at Wal-Mart and Sam's Club, the exclusive U.S. retailers for the album that arrived yesterday (Oct. 21). Sources estimate the set sold 193,000 copies in its first day of sale, and could move upward of 800,000 in its first week.



U gotta figure CD will at least do that good.

I'm astonished the AC/DC record is doing that well.  Maybe there really is something to this 'exclusive retailer' thing.  Damn, if AC/DC hits 800,000, I hope that GN'R would at least hit that much in the first week.

Ali

DO you have any clue about how HUGE AC/DC's fan base is? If you did , you shouldn't be surprised with how well their cd is doing....

Uh, yes, I do.  I own 12 AC/DC albums.

But, if you knew how well the last album, Stiff Upper Lip, sold, you might be surprised at how well this one is selling.  The last album sold 193, 000 copies in the first week and nearly a million overall.

Just for a little perspective there.

Ali

Ok, but you need to update the way you think about how cd's are sold since the last ac/dc album came out. the big box retailer exclusives really have helped the big, established acts move product....

There is helping big, established acts move product and then there is a greater than 4x increase in first week sales and nearly matching the last album's sales in one week.  It's a night and day difference.

Ali

Exactly my point! It is night and day and the new way of selling the big, established bands CD's via the big box is really working well as you clearly identified from sales of the ac/dc new cd really selling great.....

[TheRaven]

AC/DC's "Black Ice" is flying off the shelves at Wal-Mart and Sam's Club, the exclusive U.S. retailers for the album that arrived yesterday (Oct. 21). Sources estimate the set sold 193,000 copies in its first day of sale, and could move upward of 800,000 in its first week.



U gotta figure CD will at least do that good.

I'm astonished the AC/DC record is doing that well.  Maybe there really is something to this 'exclusive retailer' thing.  Damn, if AC/DC hits 800,000, I hope that GN'R would at least hit that much in the first week.

Ali

DO you have any clue about how HUGE AC/DC's fan base is? If you did , you shouldn't be surprised with how well their cd is doing....

Uh, yes, I do.  I own 12 AC/DC albums.

But, if you knew how well the last album, Stiff Upper Lip, sold, you might be surprised at how well this one is selling.  The last album sold 193, 000 copies in the first week and nearly a million overall.

Just for a little perspective there.

Ali

Ok, but you need to update the way you think about how cd's are sold since the last ac/dc album came out. the big box retailer exclusives really have helped the big, established acts move product....

There is helping big, established acts move product and then there is a greater than 4x increase in first week sales and nearly matching the last album's sales in one week.  It's a night and day difference.

Ali

Exactly my point! It is night and day and the new way of selling the big, established bands CD's via the big box is really working well as you clearly identified from sales of the ac/dc new cd really selling great.....

But don't we agree that AC/DC being available at Wal-Mart will probably help a little bit more than GN'R being available at Best Buy? There are a lot fewer Best Buys in the U.S., which will hurt the "impulse" buy. There are many times that I walk through a Wal-Mart or Best Buy and wind up with a CD or DVD that I didn't plan on buying.

[Ali]

AC/DC's "Black Ice" is flying off the shelves at Wal-Mart and Sam's Club, the exclusive U.S. retailers for the album that arrived yesterday (Oct. 21). Sources estimate the set sold 193,000 copies in its first day of sale, and could move upward of 800,000 in its first week.



U gotta figure CD will at least do that good.

I'm astonished the AC/DC record is doing that well.  Maybe there really is something to this 'exclusive retailer' thing.  Damn, if AC/DC hits 800,000, I hope that GN'R would at least hit that much in the first week.

Ali

DO you have any clue about how HUGE AC/DC's fan base is? If you did , you shouldn't be surprised with how well their cd is doing....

Uh, yes, I do.  I own 12 AC/DC albums.

But, if you knew how well the last album, Stiff Upper Lip, sold, you might be surprised at how well this one is selling.  The last album sold 193, 000 copies in the first week and nearly a million overall.

Just for a little perspective there.

Ali

Ok, but you need to update the way you think about how cd's are sold since the last ac/dc album came out. the big box retailer exclusives really have helped the big, established acts move product....

There is helping big, established acts move product and then there is a greater than 4x increase in first week sales and nearly matching the last album's sales in one week.  It's a night and day difference.

Ali

Exactly my point! It is night and day and the new way of selling the big, established bands CD's via the big box is really working well as you clearly identified from sales of the ac/dc new cd really selling great.....

I'm saying I think it helped AC/DC, and will ultimately help GN'R, but I don't think that is the sole reason for the increase in sales for AC/DC.  I think it has to do with the quality of the material as well.

Ali

[Eazy E]

Island Def Jam is moving up by a day the release dates for the Killers' "Day & Age," Ludacris' "Theater of the Mind" and Kanye West's "808s & Heartbreak," in what it says is an attempt to capitalize on the Thanksgiving shopping weekend.

All three albums were due Nov. 25 but will now come out off-cycle on Monday, Nov. 24 in both physical and digital formats.

Each project has already spawned a hit. The Killers' "Human" is No. 6 on Billboard's Modern Rock chart, while Ludacris' "One More Drink" co-starring T-Pain is No. 34 on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs. West's "Love Lockdown" has already peaked at No. 3 on the Hot 100.

As previously reported, Guns N' Roses' new Interscope album, "Chinese Democracy," will also come out off-cycle on Sunday, Nov. 23 as a Best Buy exclusive.


I think this means all of those albums will have their first day (two days for Guns) appear on a seperate chart than their first week of sales.  I remember this happening when Eminem released an album on a Friday a couple of years back... He was #1 for 2 weeks in a row, but his first week sales were split between the two charts (when in reality he sold something like 1.5 million in the first week).

I don't know if this is good or bad for Guns!

[carlosmontana]

The single is #2 Top Song on Sweden itunes as of this morning 07.00, jumped from #7 last night. Guess the pre-orders are pouring in...