Everything about Chinese Democracy - the track

[RoCoKiN]

mabye this has already been posted in the last 70 pages

but does anyone know what the people are saying in the first 50+ seconds?

I've have always heard this same voice throughout the Intro that says something that sounds like "wowsers"!?!?!    And I keep thinking its Axl 

[gunns1]

mabye this has already been posted in the last 70 pages

but does anyone know what the people are saying in the first 50+ seconds?

I've have always heard this same voice throughout the Intro that says something that sounds like "wowsers"!?!?!    And I keep thinking its Axl 

its possible, mabye hes saying wowsers in chinese?

[DeN]

you can listen to the track (and add it to your playlist, etc) on http://jiwamusic.com

[kupirock]

Copy & paste from the Velvet Rope forum:

Guitars are Paul Tobias, Robin Finck, Buckethead, Ron Thal and Richard Fortus
Bass is Stinson
Drums are Frank Ferrer
Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, and Axl did the keys

Which kinda proves what Mark said on Talking Metal about Frank drumming on the track.


/jarmo

Found this info from gnrsource.com

CHINESE DEMOCRACY
(Rose, Freese)

Guitars: Paul Tobias, Robin Finck,
Buckethead, Ron ?Bumblefoot? Thal,
Richard Fortus
Bass: Tommy Stinson
Drums: Frank Ferrer
Keyboards: Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, Axl Rose
Background Vocals: Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson
Sub bass: Chris Pitman
Guitar Solos: Robin Finck, Buckethead
Intro: Eric Caudieux, Caram Costanzo
Vocals: Axl Rose
Arrangement: Rose, Tobias, Beavan
Digital Editing: Eric Caudieux,
Caram Costanzo, Axl Rose, Sean Beavan
Additional guitar processing: Chris Pitman

[Thorned Rose]

I just think it's a smart idea to have the title track of the album as the first single. The name 'Chinese Democracy' has had so much mystery, press and discussion over the years. To have a radio DJ annouce up next 'Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy' is pretty powerful and is bound to make people listen.

Yeah I agree the name itself will hit people and make them check it out at least.

Paul Tobias is on the song? Any info on whether he's on any other songs? Didn't he get fired in like 02? Interesting. Don't know why Axl would keep him on there...

[Chuzeville]

I don't think Tobias ever got fired.  I thought he wasn't too keen on touring but remained Axl's collaborator...

[LittleFly]

mabye this has already been posted in the last 70 pages

but does anyone know what the people are saying in the first 50+ seconds?

I've have always heard this same voice throughout the Intro that says something that sounds like "wowsers"!?!?!    And I keep thinking its Axl 

I must have listened to the song 20 times last night (through my brand new noise cancelling headphones ) There is a male voice saying something like "Jay, jay, jay" in a way that sounds like it translates to yes, yes, yes as in agreeing with what someone is saying.  There's also a highpitched woman's voice talking like she is shocked or outraged at something, or at least excited in some way.

BTW, I listened to the one on gunsnroses.com because I think it's the one that has the best sound quality.

[Jimmy?]

Copy & paste from the Velvet Rope forum:

Guitars are Paul Tobias, Robin Finck, Buckethead, Ron Thal and Richard Fortus
Bass is Stinson
Drums are Frank Ferrer
Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, and Axl did the keys

Which kinda proves what Mark said on Talking Metal about Frank drumming on the track.


/jarmo

Found this info from gnrsource.com

CHINESE DEMOCRACY
(Rose, Freese)

Guitars: Paul Tobias, Robin Finck,
Buckethead, Ron ?Bumblefoot? Thal,
Richard Fortus
Bass: Tommy Stinson
Drums: Frank Ferrer
Keyboards: Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, Axl Rose
Background Vocals: Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson
Sub bass: Chris Pitman
Guitar Solos: Robin Finck, Buckethead
Intro: Eric Caudieux, Caram Costanzo
Vocals: Axl Rose
Arrangement: Rose, Tobias, Beavan
Digital Editing: Eric Caudieux,
Caram Costanzo, Axl Rose, Sean Beavan
Additional guitar processing: Chris Pitman

Lol, that's a fair few credits there!!

[duga]

Copy & paste from the Velvet Rope forum:

Guitars are Paul Tobias, Robin Finck, Buckethead, Ron Thal and Richard Fortus
Bass is Stinson
Drums are Frank Ferrer
Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, and Axl did the keys

Which kinda proves what Mark said on Talking Metal about Frank drumming on the track.


/jarmo

Found this info from gnrsource.com

CHINESE DEMOCRACY
(Rose, Freese)

Guitars: Paul Tobias, Robin Finck,
Buckethead, Ron ?Bumblefoot? Thal,
Richard Fortus
Bass: Tommy Stinson
Drums: Frank Ferrer
Keyboards: Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, Axl Rose
Background Vocals: Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson
Sub bass: Chris Pitman
Guitar Solos: Robin Finck, Buckethead
Intro: Eric Caudieux, Caram Costanzo
Vocals: Axl Rose
Arrangement: Rose, Tobias, Beavan
Digital Editing: Eric Caudieux,
Caram Costanzo, Axl Rose, Sean Beavan
Additional guitar processing: Chris Pitman

That's exactly what I want. Just like the UYI booklets. 

[commissioner]

They'll remove the intro for radio I am assuming, or at least a good majority of it, and this will fucking rock.

If true.

I HOPE NOT!!! That is a really cool intro!!!

Anyone take a stab at the lyrics yet?

[Silverchair]

i think Frank did record over Brain's Drum tracks... why?

Cuz Brain wasn't active at the time and I THINKit was done so no more unnecessary royalties would have to be paid. (to freese)

[FunkyMonkey]

GUNS N ROSES STINSON TALKS DELAY, WITH NOV 23 RELEASE ANNOUNCED

October 24, 2008 -

The seventeen year wait is over for what might be the most anticipated album in music history. Guns N' Roses is set to release their first album since 1991's Use Your Illusion 1 and 2. Chinese Democracy will be released exclusively through Best Buy November 23, and the title track has already been given to radio. Those who can't get to a radio can go to gunsnroses.com, where they can hear the song and where the countdown clock to the release keeps rolling.

Former Replacements bandmember Tommy Stinson, chatted with us about his solo album, Village Gorilla Head, in 2004. The album was perhaps his finest musical accomplishment, but he begged to differ. At the time he talked about the delay in making Chinese Democracy.

"The real delay was just how it went down. Having an eight person band collaborating to write a record is a daunting task to begin with, but to have it, to do it in a way where none of the guys have really been in the band all that long together and trying to pull in all those different influences from each band member to make it have a cohesive songwriting thing. It takes time. It was a lengthy process, but it was definitely the best way to go about it, and certainly the best learning experience I've ever had as a musician. As far my musical years and all the cool stuff I've done, it was one of the coolest things in that aspect, of just collaborating with people from totally different areas, genres, what have you."

Stinson said that Axl Rose was very supportive of him making Village Gorilla Head, and the bassist talks about the balance between being solo and in GNR.

"You know I love being in Guns and being a bass player with that but I also write songs on my own that aren't really geared for that. There's a good juxtaposition between the two."

Stinson joined Guns N Roses in 1998, and the band has seen various members come and go throughout the making of Chinese Democracy. The title track isn't the only tracks fans can get their hands on. "Shackler's Revenge" debuted September 14 through the music video game Rock Band 2, and "If The World" is in the film "Body Of Lies," which premiered on October 11.

Video here: http://www.artisannews.com/ans101/templates/?a=5298&z=98

[Gaymo, the Hobbit]

The damn video won't play

[FunkyMonkey]

The video worked for me but there is a delay before it starts.

Artisian News has been know to re-issue an older interview as "new".  This may be the case here.

[Spirit]

http://www.haugesunds-avis.no/article/20081024/PULS/290003569/-1/3RDHEADERADS

It's in Norwegian, but it basically says that the song "tastes of juicy hard rock!"

5/6

[Nytunz]

http://www.haugesunds-avis.no/article/20081024/PULS/290003569/-1/3RDHEADERADS

It's in Norwegian, but it basically says that the song "tastes of juicy hard rock!"

5/6

Nice read Spirit!
Cool too see good reviews like this.. i heard on P3morgen (radioshow) the host liked it alot..

[GeraldFord]

Any word on how the single is doing on the radio?

[GypsySoul]

Listening to Talking Metal episode 235.

Mark says it's Frank playing drums on the track.


/jarmo

He's wrong. Frank MAY HAVE added the drums during the intro.....

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=53667.msg1119124#msg1119124

CHINESE DEMOCRACY
(Rose, Freese)

Guitars: Paul Tobias, Robin Finck,
Buckethead, Ron ?Bumblefoot? Thal,
Richard Fortus
Bass: Tommy Stinson
Drums: Frank Ferrer
Keyboards: Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, Axl Rose
Background Vocals: Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson
Sub bass: Chris Pitman
Guitar Solos: Robin Finck, Buckethead
Intro: Eric Caudieux, Caram Costanzo
Vocals: Axl Rose
Arrangement: Rose, Tobias, Beavan
Digital Editing: Eric Caudieux,
Caram Costanzo, Axl Rose, Sean Beavan
Additional guitar processing: Chris Pitman

Still think he's wrong?   

[Smoking Guns]

Listening to Talking Metal episode 235.

Mark says it's Frank playing drums on the track.


/jarmo

He's wrong. Frank MAY HAVE added the drums during the intro.....

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=53667.msg1119124#msg1119124

CHINESE DEMOCRACY
(Rose, Freese)

Guitars: Paul Tobias, Robin Finck,
Buckethead, Ron ?Bumblefoot? Thal,
Richard Fortus
Bass: Tommy Stinson
Drums: Frank Ferrer
Keyboards: Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, Axl Rose
Background Vocals: Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson
Sub bass: Chris Pitman
Guitar Solos: Robin Finck, Buckethead
Intro: Eric Caudieux, Caram Costanzo
Vocals: Axl Rose
Arrangement: Rose, Tobias, Beavan
Digital Editing: Eric Caudieux,
Caram Costanzo, Axl Rose, Sean Beavan
Additional guitar processing: Chris Pitman

Still think he's wrong?   

If there is a complaint about the song....Its that its a touch over produced.  Its still badass, but, I think a stripped down version could have rocked a little harder.

[LittleFly]

Any word on how the single is doing on the radio?

It was the #5 single as of this morning on the station a co-worker listens to.  WPRO I think he said?