Brain about Chinese Democracy & BrainBeatz.com

[Robman?]

I assume Freese will still get royalties for his work though, which I dont think wouldve been the case if the drum parts were rewritten.

Is that right?

[greekmule]

even if it's only the drums that's being recorded, Im betting it still has to do with the flow. Im sure most of us wouldn't hear the difference if it was pieces put together or played all the way through, but Axl could probably hear the difference and wanted it done this way.

i guess u are right. even though he was replicating freese's parts note for note maybe by playing the whole song he could get a better feel and flow.
axl knows better

[final_touches]

"Play it EXACTLY as Josh played it... but with your feel."

I think there is a scene in Mulholland Drive where the director says sth similar.

[Fingers]

I assume Freese will still get royalties for his work though, which I dont think wouldve been the case if the drum parts were rewritten.

Is that right?

There are going to be a lot of people owed a lot of royalties on this record most likely

[IKnowWhereIAM]

I assume Freese will still get royalties for his work though, which I dont think wouldve been the case if the drum parts were rewritten.

Is that right?

There are going to be a lot of people owed a lot of royalties on this record most likely

I think we have our answer (or a big part of it) as to why the album took such a long time to get together...a lot of legal issues, and probably some hurt feelings/ego's...

[Pine Barrens]

Something funny... Brain talks about how they had his drum kit set up for 5 years in the same studio (Studio C) at the Village Recorders, well, when you go to the Village Recorders Studios website and click on the link to check out their various studios, Studio C is not listed. Studio A, B, D and F are, but not C or E. Guns must have rented them out (or at least Studio C) for so long there's no point to even list them on the website. 

[PJ]

GNR stopped recording there in 2004 after the whole Axl vs Geffen thing..
they started recording in the villlage in 2000 with Roy Thomas Baker (produced the record from 2000 to 2002)
98 to 2000 they recorded in Rumbo with Sean Beavan

after the village the band have been seen recording in at least this studios
Curt Coumo Studio (2004 after BH left)
Electric Ladyland
Palms Recording Studio

[Mr. Nik™]

# Woodland Ranch Recorders (Curt Cuomo) - 2004 -> 2005
# Electric Lady Studios (NYC) - 2006, 2007

[uzisuicide2002]

Dude thats nuts how he did that. He he still in the band??? But recording the drums where Zepp did some work is great. Should sound sweet. But is he still in the band?

[Ignatius]

Wow!

I have now changed my mind about Brain. To me, all this time he always seemed like he really wasn't really into this band. Brain introduced Buckethead to Axl and since Bucket left so abruptly I always thought Brain was sort of in the same frame of mine, but having seen this clip I can tell he's really got involved in the making of CD.

[PJ]

BH introduced Brain to Axl
not the other way

BH started hanging out woth GNR in 99
Brain in 2000

I remember Brain saying that CD will be the "Led Zep II" of GNR

[michaelvincent]

I think maybe some of you are overthinking this. It is very much possible to hand two musicians two identical sets of music and they can play it exactly as it is written, and they will still sound different on many fundamental levels. Every great drummer has an innate sense of the beat, and some will naturally swing a hair behind the beat, some a hair ahead of the beat, and some will land spot on the beat. I only cite this because it is from personal experience, but my last band changed drummers, and it totally changed the feel of the band. The new guy learned everything note for note off our last EP, but it just sounded....different. The old drummer was more of a 4 on the floor, straight up and down drummer while the new guy came from a jazz and funk background, and everything he played just felt more lively. I dunno....it's intangible but it makes a difference. Behind the beat vs. straight on the beat, Neil Peart vs. John Bohnam, Steven Perkins vs. Chad Smith...

Everyone touches an instrument differently. Listen to any of the live Appetite era stuff Sorum did vs. Adler. It's the same parts, but Sorum's feel is very on the beat, and Adler is a bit more reckless, and swings differently. There are so many variables in music that can't really be quantified. That's why people like Rick Rubin or Dave Jerden or Brenden O'brien are such in demand producers, not everyone has that ear for things. My impression of Axl Rose is that no matter what you think of the guy, he has an outstanding set of ears, his sense of nuance is pretty damn good.

My impression of Josh Freese is that he is more of a "rock" drummer, and Brain is a lot funkier by nature and that imparted a sound that Axl preferred. I bet if you transcribed the solo to November Rain and handing it to steve vai it wouldn't sound anything like Slash.

[ppbebe]

sry if old news but brain has a new official site.
http://www.brainbeatz.com/

and he for the first time talks about amazing chinese sessions.
http://www.brainbeatz.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=96

[norway]

and he for the first time talks about amazing chinese sessions.
http://www.brainbeatz.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=96

Thanks again

"Dude, I gotta like...practice this!"

[ATmagnum]

Man, I can't believe Brain put himself through that kind of meat grinder.  It shows me quite a bit that he swallowed his pride enough to learn all those songs note for note and didn't act like a prima donna and say "I'm Brain, I'm doing this my way."

It turned out great and I'm glad he decided to go through with it.

[GNR4L]

That's why he's one of the top drummer's in the world.

[adman2374]

That's why he's one of the top drummer's in the world.

absolutely! gnr needs him back in the fold. no disrespect to frank, but brain is in another league....

[ppbebe]

and he for the first time talks about amazing chinese sessions.
http://www.brainbeatz.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=96

Thanks again

"Dude, I gotta like...practice this!"

  tehehe, it was new for me as i was absent  from the board when it was posted...

in an old interview brain talked how he'd attach weight to basic practice. 

[lennonisgod]

That's why he's one of the top drummer's in the world.

absolutely! gnr needs him back in the fold. no disrespect to frank, but brain is in another league....

I agree... I also would love to see Brain come back... but something tells me he won't be. That is PURE SPECULATION on my part and if he doesn't come back, that's fine too. Frank is a great drummer as well, so really either way, I'll be happy.

If I had it my way though, Josh would be Guns' drummer permanently... because he my friends, IS THE MAN.