Brain about Chinese Democracy & BrainBeatz.com

[The Estranged MrFlashbax]

that's pretty fucking cool. the bit about the masonic temple.. eerie. i love it 

[big guns]

So is Axl saying Josh Freese is great technically but has no feel?

It seems so.

I don't think Axl implied that.  It sounds like he just prefers Brains spin on it.

[Jack49]

Wow, that is incredible

[-Jack-]

llllllllllllllol. That was the kind of story I wanted to hear about an album as mythical as this one. Too funny. Brian is a good story teller.

[Bruno Poeys]

Of course Brain came up with his parts on every song written from 2000 to 2006 - Shackler's, Better, The General, etc.

[daviebuckethead]

Of course Brain came up with his parts on every song written from 2000 to 2006 - Shackler's, Better, The General, etc.

the general?

you know/ heard something we haven't??

[ben9785]

Of course Brain came up with his parts on every song written from 2000 to 2006 - Shackler's, Better, The General, etc.

the general?

you know/ heard something we haven't??

Baz mentioned it in an interview and specifically commented on Brains' drum work on the song.

[Bruno Poeys]

Of course Brain came up with his parts on every song written from 2000 to 2006 - Shackler's, Better, The General, etc.

the general?

you know/ heard something we haven't??

No, but Brain (or Baz?) mentioned that he wrote the song.

[Pine Barrens]

As far as the different "feel" musicians' have, just think about the new GN'R's playing the old material as the have been on the recent tours. They are playing the same songs, same chords, but you can tell when it's the old band and when it's the new band playing them.

[Loaded NightraiN]

Does anyone else see this as the "gag order" being letup because the release is upcoming?

[ben9785]

I really enjoyed that, and I hope other band members and contributors would give a candid insight into their work on the album.

The thing I don't understand is how Axl and Roy expect Brain to add his own "feel" to the music when they want him to copy Josh Freese note for note to such an extent. I believe Brain and Josh are both in a similar class, they are both very versatile, solid, proficient drummers. A drummers adds their own "feel" by being given the absolute 'basis' of a song and developing on it in their own way. Think about how Robin covers Slash's solos for instance. Robin has the basis of the melody, but then he plays it with his own feel, he doesn't copy Slash note for note, and even if you don't have musical proficiency, you can hear a clear difference between the two guitarists.

Perhaps Axl and Roy only had good intentions wanting Brain to have his presence on the album also. But if they were so happy with Josh's parts they should have left them be, and allow Brain to contribute to newer songs, just like how some of Buckethead's  parts remained intact after Bumblefoot joined.

[DeN]

like it was said before, every musician plays with his own sensibility, so it's not a problem.

BUT the real question I'm asking to myself here, is Brain didn't feel artistically frustrated or even a bit insulted to redone a work already made instead of doing himself the job ?

[ben9785]

like it was said before, every musician plays with his own sensibility, so it's not a problem.

BUT the real question I'm asking to myself here, is Brain didn't feel artistically frustrated or even a bit insulted to redone a work already made instead of doing himself the job ?

Yeah, compared to his own work that he does with Buckethead for instance, I'd expect that he treated that as more of a 'session' job. I really do hope there is some new music that Brain had creative input in because he is an amazing drummer.

[Continental Drift]

Cool video! I really hope Brain is back in the fold for future tours, videos, etc. In addition to being an incredible drummer, he, along with Stinson (complimentary re: Duff in the past) Fortus (complimentary re: Izzy and the past) and Thal (complimentary re: Slash in the past), seem to have a pretty good sense of the GN'R "history" and "tradition" (I could see Slash and Duff getting a chuckle out of the Masonic Temple aspect of the story) IMHO. I think it's cool whenever the new guys embrace the band's rich legacy and not run away from it.

Also... "Play it EXACTLY as Josh played it... but with your feel". CLASSIC AXL!

All that matters is that it meant something to Axl... and he no doubt knew what he was looking for once he heard it from Brain.

[Verse Chorus Verse]

Perhaps not in the right topic but move if feel like...

Brain on democracy.. (josh freese wrote the drums for Twat)

http://eqmag.tv/index.html?req=1&station=eqtvbrain&video=eqtv/inthestudio/eqtv_l07_braincd
That's a source!!!

Lol, Brain is the modern-day Sorum. (Except he's nowhere near as big as an asshole  )

[Loaded NightraiN]

Good to see what Brain has to say...

A few unsettling things, "i'm not getting paid enough for this", and the fact he's not even sure who the producer is



But some cool things: "epic, now this is led zeppelin", "this is GNR, we cant do this in the same studio as everyone else"

[Scabbie]

Thanks I really enjoyed that!   

As for adding 'feel', to me this means how hard the notes are played, accenting notes, and of course the drum set up and sound. I do believe two drummers can play the same rhythm and make it sound completely diffrent. Listen to the way John Bonham played the simplest of beats, he made them sound so sweet

I really enjoyed Freese's drumming on OMG and CITR, and I would be happy to see Brain or Josh in the band. They're in a class of their own

[axl2]

Good to see what Brain has to say...

A few unsettling things, "i'm not getting paid enough for this", and the fact he's not even sure who the producer is

Well I think he was just joking around about how LONG that would take him.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

That's a crazy story.  Can't believe RTB wanted him to do every song in one take 

But as far as Brain having no creative input, he said a while ago that The General was a song he had helped write and we know he has a writing credit on Shackler's.  So seems as though he just re-did the previously written stuff like IRS, CD, TWAT, Blues and did his own thing on the post-2000 songs like Better, Shackler's and so on. 

[PJ]

im almost sure that all of that was re-recorded by axl as a producer
nothing that was recorded by RTB or Sean Beavan will be heard in CD