The 2008/2009 NBA season thread

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Just a little hint for u Kobe guys


Anytime u get in an argument with someone over who is better, All u have to do is point to the defensive side of the floor.


Micheal Jordan is the greatest ever, not just cause of his offense, but his defense.

Kobe absolutely shut Lebron down today.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Uhhhhh, okay?

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just saying, what separates Kobe and Lebron is the way Kobe can play shut down defense and Lebron isn't quite there defensively yet.

[Axl4Prez2004]

I don't follow the NBA super closely...but I did notice the fellow outta Gonzaga...Morrison, the guy who averaged 28 ppg in college was just traded to the Lakers.  Is he still a bad defender?  Can he score in the NBA?  Can he help the Lakers?

Just curious.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

I don't follow the NBA super closely...but I did notice the fellow outta Gonzaga...Morrison, the guy who averaged 28 ppg in college was just traded to the Lakers.  Is he still a bad defender?  Can he score in the NBA?  Can he help the Lakers?

Just curious.

Yes.

No.

No.

[Axl4Prez2004]

A-FRaud!  You must STILL be using performance enhancing drugs!  That response was faster than hell!   

Thanks, I figured as much...but...does he give them anything more than the European guy they gave up???

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Word around the NBA is that he still collapses during practice and cries his eyes out on the hardwood.

No, he's just a body to keep on the bench.  The European guy was nothing more than a breathing turnstile.  Like the Kwame trade, I am just glad they got rid of him.  The Lakers are dumping dollars to make a run at Lamar Odom when he becomes an unrestricted free agent this summer.

[crow316]

Micheal Jordan is the greatest ever, not just cause of his offense, but his defense.

No, he's the "best ever" because he was the best in the league when the ratings for the NBA were the highest. He's the "best ever" because most of the guys writing columns and blogs these days, grew up idolizing him.  And dont go throwing stats around. He played in a watered down league where defenses were geared to stop centers. He's also the "best ever" because he didnt play for the Lakers or Knicks.  He was great, but not the greatest.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Micheal Jordan is the greatest ever, not just cause of his offense, but his defense.

No, he's the "best ever" because he was the best in the league when the ratings for the NBA were the highest. He's the "best ever" because most of the guys writing columns and blogs these days, grew up idolizing him.  And dont go throwing stats around. He played in a watered down league where defenses were geared to stop centers. He's also the "best ever" because he didnt play for the Lakers or Knicks.  He was great, but not the greatest.

Dumb.

[crow316]

Nice rebuttal.  At least D will argue intelligently.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Why argue about something that is written in stone?

Not even D would be stupid enough to argue that Jordan was not the best ever.

[crow316]

It aint written in stone dude.  Its thinking like that thats the problem. But the NBA marketing machine that cranked out the MJ image can sleep easy knowing they did their job. 

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Marketing does not dictate what happens during a game.

[faldor]

It aint written in stone dude.  Its thinking like that thats the problem. But the NBA marketing machine that cranked out the MJ image can sleep easy knowing they did their job. 

Who are you implying is better than MJ?  Kobe?  Lebron?  Both?  Where does MJ fall on your list of all time greats?

Larry Bird is the best of all time anyway, so it's a meaningless argument.





That was a joke, MJ is the best, hands down.  Not even close.  If Kobe can win a couple titles without one of the best big men in the history of the game maybe we can talk.  Until then though, there's no debate.

[crow316]

No, but marketing dictates how the public will feel about players of the game.  There are a lot of players that can be on the list of greatest ever. Wilt, Russel, Kareem, Magic, and Bird I consider better. But because of the reasons I mentioned earlier, MJ is the popular choice.

[faldor]

No, but marketing dictates how the public will feel about players of the game.  There are a lot of players that can be on the list of greatest ever. Wilt, Russel, Kareem, Magic, and Bird I consider better. But because of the reasons I mentioned earlier, MJ is the popular choice.

All those guys you mentioned are all time greats, no doubt but I think even they, their families, and all of Larry Bird's illegitimate children would agree that Jordan is THE #1 guy.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

No, but marketing dictates how the public will feel about players of the game.  There are a lot of players that can be on the list of greatest ever. Wilt, Russel, Kareem, Magic, and Bird I consider better. But because of the reasons I mentioned earlier, MJ is the popular choice.

all of Larry Bird's illegitimate children

Wait, what? 

[faldor]

No, but marketing dictates how the public will feel about players of the game.  There are a lot of players that can be on the list of greatest ever. Wilt, Russel, Kareem, Magic, and Bird I consider better. But because of the reasons I mentioned earlier, MJ is the popular choice.

all of Larry Bird's illegitimate children

Wait, what? 

Larry was quite the pimp in his days, 9 illegitimate children with 9 different women.  That's a record that's difficult to break.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

No, but marketing dictates how the public will feel about players of the game.  There are a lot of players that can be on the list of greatest ever. Wilt, Russel, Kareem, Magic, and Bird I consider better. But because of the reasons I mentioned earlier, MJ is the popular choice.

all of Larry Bird's illegitimate children

Wait, what? 

Larry was quite the pimp in his days, 9 illegitimate children with 9 different women.  That's a record that's difficult to break.

That's pretty cool.

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I use to try and play Devil's Advocate over at my sports forum and say MJ wasn't

Then u have to try and figure out WHO Is

Then u get into MJ's numbers and realize all he did, while also shooting damn near 50 percent for his career.

Seriously, had he not went to baseball, he wins 8 titles easily and if the Bulls had got to come back during the strike shortened season, he may win 9 titles.

His numbers are just off the charts in every category imaginable.

The NBA didn't make Micheal Jordan, Micheal Jordan MADE the NBA.     

I am not even a MJ fan but I can't argue against the guy.

Wilt Chamberlain statistically is unmatched. I mean the dude averaged 50pts and 20 rebs in ONE SEASON

but everyone was so much smaller than Wilt.